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Wow, this puts me firmly in the camp for rejecting this place. The last
thing this landlord sounds like is sensible. Before they sounded maybe
over-optimistic, but now they just sound stuck in a fantasy world. Avoid.
On 23/10/2012 12:38, Ian Henderson wrote:
> This is an update as requested:
>
> 42 North Road is still occupied by squatters. They have moved in a large
> caravan and seem to be living there complete with dogs and various
> unwashed friends
>
> Both the landlord and the Police have been notified, but I haven't seen
> any eviction activity so far. The squatters broke the lock on one of the
> doors to gain access and then use a yale type lock for daily access
>
> I have spoken to someone who made a commercial bid for the site. They
> told me:
>
> The landlord wants a long lease (5 to 10 years) with the new tennant
> taking on responsibility for refurbishment costs estimated at £1
> million. Estimated rent is £11 per sq ft
>
> This works out at approximately £165,000 per annum
>
> I have spoken to a chartered surveyor who has inspected the property. He
> thinks the landlord has totally unrealistic expectations and no one is
> likely to pay or commit to what is being asked. This may explain why it
> has been unoccupied for 18 months or so.
>
> I'm just wondering if the present situation could be an opportunity for
> Hackspace to offer to take over the premises for a few years at a
> heavily discounted rent until the rental market improves. Occupancy by
> Hackspace would have security benefits and would be producing some
> rental income for the landlord. It could be a win-win if the landlord is
> prepared to be sensible...
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 10 October 2012 10:51:40 UTC+1, Ian Henderson wrote:
>
> There has been mention of 42 North Road as a possible location for
> the next Hackspace
>
> I currently rent an office at 39A North Road which is adjacent to 42
> so I've taken a few photographs. The post code is N7 9DP and the
> site is next door to Caledonian Road Underground Station on the
> Picaddilly line (Zone 2)
>
> Number 42 was formerly used as a commercial garage (think QuickFit
> or similar), it's a huge space - about 15,000 square feet and not in
> good condition. Access is very easy and parking is reasonable with
> pay and display bays outside the building between 9:30 and 4:30
> Monday to Friday. Outside these hours parking is free
>
> I think it's a great space but I'm not sure it would be suitable as
> the next Hackspace without a lot of work
>
> Here are a few photographs:
>
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> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UGEx7eHRRXY/UHVEmDk7YtI/AAAAAAAAADs/WDiGSTupuJI/s1600/P1000730.jpg>
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> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gPI6U2bxR2k/UHVEuxXTOkI/AAAAAAAAAD0/9S2VIhaKMa8/s1600/P1000731.jpg>
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