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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:22:53 +0100
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Subject: Re: [london-hack-space] Re: Hackspace clean up - Junk clearance
From: Naomi Lehane <naomij...@gmail.com>
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[1] "Hi! May I take your order?"

I never expected a welcome committee, I knew I was not coming in on a
social night, but it did feel awkward, but surely an acknowledgement of
someone else coming into the room is not to much too ask Akki?, that would
surely add to the more positive environment no?.

Naomi

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Akki <belovedgodd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm going to bring this up again randomly...
>
> http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/New_members_guide
>
> If we put this as a pdf on lovelace and print some out and have it
> noticeable for new people, it might help them understand that we're
> not a service[1] - we're just people/members using the space. It's not
> necessarily a friendly or not friendly thing. We don't always like
> giving tours out of the hours of tuesday night social night because
> we're busy working.
>
> Also, I might update the wiki on visiting the space to try to make
> this point clearer - you're going to have to make yourself obvious if
> you're new, you're in a sea of probably 500 other people who use the
> space (members and nonmembers). We cannot possibly know everyone who
> comes through that door.
>
> ~Akki
>
> [1] "Hi! May I take your order?"
>
> On Jun 13, 10:14 am, Michael Stevens <mstev...@etla.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 03:19:35PM -0700, Earthshine wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:45:56 PM UTC+1, naomijlea wrote:
> >
> > > > As a new member I can say it can be quite intimidating walking into
> the
> > > > space for the first time, when I went in for the first time, I
> wasn't even
> > > > acknowledged by any one, except person who kindly showed me around, I
> > > > acknowledge confidence is not my strong suit, but it was a bit off
> putting,
> > > > although once past that initial awkwardness, I felt fine on my own.
> >
> > > This was actually said to me on Saturday at the Helicopter Picnic. Two
> > > people independently told me in the pub afterwards that they had gone
> to
> > > the space, on a Tuesday social night, but felt intimidated as nobody
> > > greeted them, nobody tried to talk to them and most people had
> earphones on
> > > whilst staring at a laptop. Nobody offered to show them around and they
> > > were wondering what part of the night was the social bit. They hung
> around
> > > for an hour or so but left after this as they felt like a gooseberry.
> They
> > > said they did not feel like they wanted to come back after this and
> havent
> > > been back since.
> >
> > > Read into this what you will.
> >
> > I had a similar experience, and was only saved by already knowing akki
> > and sully. Admittedly this was not a Tuesday.
> >
> > Michael
>

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[1] &quot;Hi! May I take your order?&quot;<br><br>I never expected a welcom=
e committee, I knew I was not coming in on a social night, but it did feel =
awkward, but surely an acknowledgement of someone else coming into the room=
 is not to much too ask Akki?, that would surely add to the more positive e=
nvironment no?.<br>
<br>Naomi<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:10 A=
M, Akki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:belovedgodd...@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">belovedgodd...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;m going to bring this up again randomly...<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/New_members_guide" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/New_members_guide</a=
><br>
<br>
If we put this as a pdf on lovelace and print some out and have it<br>
noticeable for new people, it might help them understand that we&#39;re<br>
not a service[1] - we&#39;re just people/members using the space. It&#39;s =
not<br>
necessarily a friendly or not friendly thing. We don&#39;t always like<br>
giving tours out of the hours of tuesday night social night because<br>
we&#39;re busy working.<br>
<br>
Also, I might update the wiki on visiting the space to try to make<br>
this point clearer - you&#39;re going to have to make yourself obvious if<b=
r>
you&#39;re new, you&#39;re in a sea of probably 500 other people who use th=
e<br>
space (members and nonmembers). We cannot possibly know everyone who<br>
comes through that door.<br>
<br>
~Akki<br>
<br>
[1] &quot;Hi! May I take your order?&quot;<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On Jun 13, 10:14=A0am, Michael Stevens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mstev...@etla.=
org">mstev...@etla.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 03:19:35PM -0700, Earthshine wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:45:56 PM UTC+1, naomijlea wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; As a new member I can say it can be quite intimidating walki=
ng into the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; space for the first time, when I went in for the first time,=
 I wasn&#39;t even<br>
</div>&gt; &gt; &gt; acknowledged by any one, except person who kindly show=
ed me around, I<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt; &gt; &gt; acknowledge confiden=
ce is not my strong suit, but it was a bit off putting,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; although once past that initial awkwardness, I felt fine on =
my own.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; This was actually said to me on Saturday at the Helicopter Picnic=
. Two<br>
&gt; &gt; people independently told me in the pub afterwards that they had =
gone to<br>
&gt; &gt; the space, on a Tuesday social night, but felt intimidated as nob=
ody<br>
&gt; &gt; greeted them, nobody tried to talk to them and most people had ea=
rphones on<br>
&gt; &gt; whilst staring at a laptop. Nobody offered to show them around an=
d they<br>
&gt; &gt; were wondering what part of the night was the social bit. They hu=
ng around<br>
&gt; &gt; for an hour or so but left after this as they felt like a goosebe=
rry. They<br>
&gt; &gt; said they did not feel like they wanted to come back after this a=
nd havent<br>
&gt; &gt; been back since.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Read into this what you will.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I had a similar experience, and was only saved by already knowing akki=
<br>
&gt; and sully. Admittedly this was not a Tuesday.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michael</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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