Account Options

  1. Sign in
The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is incompatible with the new version.
Google Groups Home
« Groups Home
Message from discussion Could London HackSpace purchase the Kingsway Telephone Exchange?
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
Paul Randle-Jolliffe  
View profile  
 More options Sep 27 2012, 9:16 am
From: Paul Randle-Jolliffe <p...@patrocinium.eu>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:16:14 +0100
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [london-hack-space] Re: Could London HackSpace purchase the Kingsway Telephone Exchange?

there is no reason why a separate group cannot do this if it is as
suggested unattached to HS as it is separate an un attached and it could
offer HS the space as a beneficiary and to others.

it depends entirely then on if that group can make it work and if HS like
what is proposed to it, i am sure there are other groups that might find
this interesting

several options for a WorkSpace organisation

for profit
not for profit
cooperative
charity

On 27 September 2012 13:53, Russ Garrett <r...@garrett.co.uk> wrote:

> How about we forego making complex legal structures until we find
> somewhere where this is actually feasible?

> Russ

> On 27 September 2012 13:00, Steve Kelly <kelly.st...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Hows about,

> > A charitable trust is set uneqivalently unattached to the london
> Hackspace,
> > members of London Hackspace then bequeath a certain sum of money  which
> is
> > tax free (to us as a donation).The amount bequeathed gives us the 25%
> > deposit needed for the purchace of suitable premises which is then
> rented to
> > London Hackspace at a rent equal to the mortgage repayments. Its
> charitable
> > aim could be amongst others to provide free space to 1 or 2 business
> > startups with the proviso that they take on a local apprentice or
> provide an
> > internship.

> > The only caveat I can see with this is we will attract donations from
> > others.Would we accept 'fat cat' donations? er, lets see now, Yes!
> > Any excess monies bequeathed to the trust by others could be used to help
> > out other hackspaces around the country purchase their own premises so
> long
> > as they abide by the ethos of the trust.

> > A trust could be set up tomorrow,appoint temporary trustees, until voted
> in
> > and set up a bank account and see what we can raise from our membership
> and
> > take it from there. If it doesn't work out we simple BACS the donations,
> end
> > of and we carry on renting.

> >       'The trust will be able to take advantage of many tax benefits.
> Apart
> > from the tax relief on your own donations to the trust, it will not pay
> tax
> > on its investment income. It will not pay corporation tax or inheritance
> > tax, or business rates (there is mandatory relief against business rates
> at
> > 80% and a further 20% on a discretionary basis) if it eventually runs its
> > own office. Also the trust will not have to register for VAT, unless it
> is
> > supplying a significant amount of products or services that are subject
> to
> > VAT. This is unlikely if it is simply making grants to other charitable
> > organisations.'

> --
> Russ Garrett
> r...@garrett.co.uk

--
*Paul Randle-Jolliffe Esq*
*Practicing Principal *(Lay Advocate & Public Interest Intervener)
 Patrocinium Interventus
Isle of Wight, England.
www.patrocinium.eu
Land Line: +44 (0) 207-193-9991
Mbl: +44 (0) 7 411 99 6893

*"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any
eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the
suspicion of being no policy at all."     Edmund Burke*

Warning: This message is for the named recipient only. Dissemination
prohibited without prior written authorisation. If you are not the named
recipient, please disregard this entire message, inform the sender then
destroy.

This message may contain material or opinion that does not necessarily
reflect the policy or opinion of the parent organisation, Patrocinium
Interventus* *. Copyright (C) 2010 Patrocinium Interventus.


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.