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Subject: Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing - Arc Furnaces!
From: David Murphy <murphy.da...@gmail.com>
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I have some reservations about combining high voltage/ampage with metal
bars I'm trying to hold to heat and work on.



On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Simon Howes
<simonhowes...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Ah, yellow may be harder to get with the kiln.
> Guys, all this bikeshedding on heating devices, I wonder if I might
> suggest an epic and quite easy to make kiln?
>
> Youtube "carbon arc furnace diy" or somesuch now.
> You can make an extremly high temperature kiln from carbon rods, a 100%
> duty cycle mig/arc/tig welder and some inert gas/flow equipment. And a
> bunch of firebricks. The hack I was looking at on youtube melted tungsten
> *and* the firebricks in about 5 mins!
>
> Surely we could build something more advanced than this?
> And quite easily...
>
> Main cost would be inert gas - so its in our interest to make it at least
> a bit airtight. Fire cement, fire bricks and a bit of welding?
> On Sep 18, 2012 10:11 AM, "David Murphy" <murphy.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> it's a bugger for getting inclusions and cracks if you try to do too muc=
h
>> at cherry rather than yellow.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Simon Howes <
>> simonhowes...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Tom!
>>>
>>> We've done iron before in the kiln. Just heat it up orange hot, pop the
>>> metal in the end and leave it till it gets cherry hot then strike while=
 the
>>> iron is still hot :)
>>>
>>> We made the crucible tongs for the kiln like this.
>>> That said, these were wrough iron. Not sure if mild steel has some
>>> properties that make it less mallable when its red hot...
>>>
>>> Bai oh bai bai bai
>>>  On Sep 18, 2012 9:31 AM, "tom" <bollocks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd love somewhere to practice the basic stuff, I'm guessing the kiln
>>>> isnt hot enough to work small pieces of mild-steel?
>>>> Abby left an anvil (somewhere) in the space.
>>>>
>>>> I was considering doing it on our roof at home, but i dont think the
>>>> people below would like the idea of a 1300c fire on their heads :/
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2012 5:24:51 PM UTC+1, PaddyD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  What would you like to do?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm keen but it's a lot of kit, amounting to a lot of money, and not
>>>>> practical to do in the space..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* london-h...@**googlegroups.com [mailto:london-h...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *tom
>>>>> *Sent:* 17 September 2012 16:32
>>>>> *To:* london-h...@**googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> long term what are our plans for doing this in/near the space? Its a
>>>>> pain in the arse only being able to do it once a week :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2012 2:09:02 PM UTC+1, PaddyD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Go for it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Paddy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* london-h...@googlegroups.com [mailto:london-h...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Steward
>>>>> *Sent:* 17 September 2012 13:58
>>>>> *To:* london-h...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in coming along this week.  Should I rearrange the wik=
i
>>>>> page?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:08 PM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 places open this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who's interested in coming for this wednesday?
>>>>>
>>>>> Me, siobhan and  (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)  Tom are going
>>>>> this week
>>>>>
>>>>> After talking to Ian he's willing to increase the class size to 6
>>>>> since we tend to end up with at least one not being able to make it a=
nd he
>>>>> prefers a class of 5 and if he does end up with 6 he's still got the =
space.
>>>>>
>>>>> got your steel for the hammer yet Paddy?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 space availiable to anyone who wants in! come along! it's awsome!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Lindsay Morrison <
>>>>> metalmonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi blacksmithing folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>    i'm not going to be able to make it tonight, have had an emergency
>>>>> at work :(  so my space is free. i'm going to be out of the country u=
ntill
>>>>> 15 october, but would really like to keep doing the smithing when i g=
et
>>>>> back.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lindsay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:20 AM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I'm not sure you've been there before tom:
>>>>>
>>>>> about 6:30 tonight
>>>>> bring older clothes and =A330.
>>>>> Stepney City Farm, Stepney Way
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't get in the gate hang round and someone will be along
>>>>> sooner or later.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Great stuff! Glad to see it full again. I've updated the wiki, not
>>>>> that anyone goes there...
>>>>>
>>>>> Paddy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* london-h...@googlegroups.com [mailto:london-h...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *tom
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 September 2012 12:34
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* london-h...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have next weeks one!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 6, 2012 11:12:05 AM UTC+1, David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> lovely, 1 space left for anyone who wants a go.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Lindsay Morrison <
>>>>> metalmonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i would like to do next week's blacksmithing class.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lindsay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi , we didn't get enough people last night. is anyone who tried it a=
t
>>>>> EMF interested in some more blacksmithing classes?
>>>>>
>>>>> me, siobhan and john laban should be there next week so I think we
>>>>> have 2 spaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, pad...@padski.co.uk <
>>>>> pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok ta I'll email them directly.
>>>>> Paddy
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>> From: "David Murphy" <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <london-h...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 20:19
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think yer man and his son are going. not sure at all though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem. My previous email referred to the last 2 places. You,
>>>>> David, and Siobhan have the first 3..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* london-h...@googlegroups.com [mailto:london-h...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lindsay Morrison
>>>>> *Sent:* 28 August 2012 19:09
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* london-h...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hey, i want to do blacksmithing this week..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lindsay
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Me and S should be there for blacksmithing this wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who else is going this week?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Lindsay Morrison <
>>>>> metalmonk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi emma, sorry to hear about the elbow. am just recovering from wrist
>>>>> injuries myself. thanks for letting me know about the space. hope you=
 get
>>>>> better soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Emma Wignall <elwi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've injured my elbow and think I'm going to be unable to attend for
>>>>> 2-3 weeks :( .  If Hipster is back, then my space will be free on 1 A=
ug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Emma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, July 20, 2012 2:30:19 PM UTC+1, Lindsay Morrison wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi hipster,
>>>>>
>>>>>   i've heard you have an injury and are out of comission for a few
>>>>> weeks? sorry to hear that, but could i have your space on the blacksm=
ithing
>>>>> not next wednesday, but the following one, on 1 august?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hope you recover soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> lindsay
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lindsay,
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it is yours..
>>>>>
>>>>> Paddy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* london-h...@googlegroups.com [mailto:london-h...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lindsay Morrison
>>>>> *Sent:* 17 July 2012 23:04
>>>>> *To:* london-h...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hello!
>>>>>
>>>>>   i would REALLY love one of the blacksmithing spaces tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> lindsay
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 2 places free for tomorrow, Hipster's (hurt his hammer
>>>>> hand), and mine (unexpectedly have to be elsewhere).
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a wiki page...  http://wiki.london.hackspace.**
>>>>> org.uk/view/Blacksmithing<http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Bl=
acksmithing>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please reply asap if you are interested, priority will go to those
>>>>> already on the page, and ideally I would like my place back the follo=
wing
>>>>> week, as I am close to finishing what I want to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Paddy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg..com <http://www.avg.com/>
>>>>> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5137 - Release Date:
>>>>> 07/17/12
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>
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>>>>> 08/28/12
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<div>I have some reservations about combining high voltage/ampage with meta=
l bars I&#39;m trying to hold to heat and work on. </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Simon Howes <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simonhowes...@googlemail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">simonhowes...@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<p>Ah, yellow may be harder to get with the kiln.<br>Guys, all this bikeshe=
dding on heating devices, I wonder if I might suggest an epic and quite eas=
y to make kiln?</p>
<p>Youtube &quot;carbon arc furnace diy&quot; or somesuch now.<br>You can m=
ake an extremly high temperature kiln from carbon rods, a 100% duty cycle m=
ig/arc/tig welder and some inert gas/flow equipment. And a bunch of firebri=
cks. The hack I was looking at on youtube melted tungsten *and* the firebri=
cks in about 5 mins!</p>

<p>Surely we could build something more advanced than this?<br>And quite ea=
sily...</p>
<p>Main cost would be inert gas - so its in our interest to make it at leas=
t a bit airtight. Fire cement, fire bricks and a bit of welding?<br></p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 18, 2012 10:11 AM, &quot;David Murphy&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:murphy.da...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">murphy.d=
a...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">it&#39;s a bugger for getting inclusi=
ons and cracks if you try to do too much at cherry rather than yellow. <br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Simon Howes <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simonhowes...@googlemail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">simonhowes...@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<p>Hello Tom!</p>
<p>We&#39;ve done iron before in the kiln. Just heat it up orange hot, pop =
the metal in the end and leave it till it gets cherry hot then strike while=
 the iron is still hot :)</p>
<p>We made the crucible tongs for the kiln like this.<br>That said, these w=
ere wrough iron. Not sure if mild steel has some properties that make it le=
ss mallable when its red hot...</p>
<p>Bai oh bai bai bai<br></p>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 18, 2012 9:31 AM, &quot;tom&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bollocks...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bollocks...@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I&#39;d love somewhere to practice th=
e basic stuff, I&#39;m guessing the kiln isnt hot enough to work small piec=
es of mild-steel?=A0=20
<div>Abby left an anvil (somewhere) in the space.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I was considering doing it on our roof at home, but i dont think the p=
eople below would like the idea of a 1300c fire on their heads :/<br><br>On=
 Monday, September 17, 2012 5:24:51 PM UTC+1, PaddyD wrote:=20
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">What would you like to do?</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">I&#39;m keen but it&#39;s a lot=
 of kit, amounting to a lot of money, and not practical to do in the space.=
.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOT=
TOM:0cm;PADDING-LEFT:0cm;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BOR=
DER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;=
sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=
=3D"EN-US"> <a>london-h...@<u></u>googlegroups.com</a> [mailto:<a>london-h.=
..@<u></u>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 September 2012 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a>london-h...@<u></u>go=
oglegroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing=
</span></p></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">long term what are our plans for doing this in/near =
the space? Its a pain in the arse only being able to do it once a week :)</=
p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br>On Monday, September 17, 2012 2:09:02 PM UTC=
+1, PaddyD wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Go for it..</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Paddy</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOT=
TOM:0cm;PADDING-LEFT:0cm;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BOR=
DER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;=
sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=
=3D"EN-US"> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.com</a> [mailto:<a>london-h...@<u><=
/u>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Steward<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 September 2012 13:58<br><b>To:</b> <a>london-h...@googlegro=
ups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing</span>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I&#39;m interested in coming al=
ong this week. =A0Should I rearrange the wiki page?</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Mark</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:08 PM=
, David Murphy &lt;<a>murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">3 places open this week.</span>=
</p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Who&#39;s interested in coming =
for this wednesday? <br><br>Me, siobhan and =A0(I think, correct me if I&#3=
9;m wrong)=A0=A0Tom are going this week</span></p></div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Af=
ter talking to Ian he&#39;s willing to increase the class size to 6 since w=
e tend to end up with at least one not being able to make it and he prefers=
 a class of 5 and if he does end up with 6 he&#39;s still got the space.<br=
>
=A0<br>got your steel for the hammer yet Paddy?</span></p></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM=
, David Murphy &lt;<a>murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">1 space availiable to anyone wh=
o wants in! come along! it&#39;s awsome! </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM=
, Lindsay Morrison &lt;<a>metalmonk...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hi blacksmithing folks, </span>=
</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0 =A0i&#39;m not going to be =
able to make it tonight, have had an emergency at work :( =A0so my space is=
 free. i&#39;m going to be out of the country untill 15 october, but would =
really like to keep doing the smithing when i get back.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888" lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888" lang=3D"EN-US">lindsay=
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:20 A=
M, David Murphy &lt;<a>murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Since I&#39;m not sure you&#39;=
ve been there before tom: <br><br>about 6:30 tonight<br>bring older clothes=
 and =A330.<br>Stepney City Farm, Stepney Way</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you can&#39;t get in the gat=
e hang round and someone will be along sooner or later. </span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM=
, Paddy Duncan &lt;<a>pad...@padski.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Great stuff! Glad to see it ful=
l again. I&#39;ve updated the wiki, not that anyone goes there...</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Paddy</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
</span></p>
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOT=
TOM:0cm;PADDING-LEFT:0cm;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BOR=
DER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;=
sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=
=3D"EN-US"> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.com</a> [mailto:<a>london-h...@<u><=
/u>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2012 12:34 </span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><b>To:</b> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.com</a><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing<span lang=3D"EN-US"=
></span></p></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ll have next weeks one! <span lang=3D"EN-US"><=
/span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br>On Thursday, September 6, 2012 11:12:05 AM U=
TC+1, David wrote:<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">lovely, 1 space left fo=
r anyone who wants a go.<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Lindsay Morrison &l=
t;<a>metalmonk...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">i would like to do next week&#39;s blacksmithing cla=
ss.<span style=3D"COLOR:#888888"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888">=A0</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888">lindsay</span> <span l=
ang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"=
></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM, David Murphy &lt;<a>=
murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi , we didn&#39;t get =
enough people last night. is anyone who tried it at EMF interested in some =
more blacksmithing classes? <br><br>me, siobhan and john laban should be th=
ere next week so I think we have 2 spaces. <span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <a>pad...@padski.co=
.uk</a> &lt;<a>pad...@padski.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<span lang=3D"EN-US"></spa=
n></p>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">Ok ta I&#39;ll email th=
em directly.<br>Paddy<br><br>Sent from my thing.<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span=
></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">----- Reply message -----<br>From: &quot;David Murph=
y&quot; &lt;<a>murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a>london-h...@google=
groups.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing<span lang=
=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2012=
 20:19<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>I think yer man and=
 his son are going. not sure at all though.<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>=
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Paddy Duncan &lt;<a=
>pad...@padski.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">No problem. My p=
revious email referred to the last 2 places. You, David, and Siobhan have t=
he first 3..</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOT=
TOM:0cm;PADDING-LEFT:0cm;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BOR=
DER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;=
sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=
=3D"EN-US"> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.com</a> [<a>mailto:london-h...@<u><=
/u>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lindsay Morrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 August 2012 19:09</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br><b>To:</b> <a>london-h...@g=
ooglegroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithin=
g</span></p></div></div></div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hey, i want to do blacksmithing=
 this week..</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">li=
ndsay</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM=
, David Murphy &lt;<a>murphy...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Me=
 and S should be there for blacksmithing this wednesday.<br><br>Who else is=
 going this week? </span></p></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM=
, Lindsay Morrison &lt;<a>metalmonk...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hi emma, sorry to hear about th=
e elbow. am just recovering from wrist injuries myself. thanks for letting =
me know about the space. hope you get better soon! </span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888" lang=3D"EN-US">L</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM=
, Emma Wignall &lt;<a>elwi...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I&#39;ve injured my elbow and t=
hink I&#39;m going to be unable to attend for 2-3 weeks :( . =A0If Hipster =
is back, then my space will be free on 1 Aug. </span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888" lang=3D"EN-US">Emma</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br><br>On Friday, July 20, 201=
2 2:30:19 PM UTC+1, Lindsay Morrison wrote: </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hi hipster, </span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0 i&#39;ve heard you have an =
injury and are out of comission for a few weeks? sorry to hear that, but co=
uld i have your space on the blacksmithing not next wednesday, but the foll=
owing one, on 1 august?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hope you recover soon!</span></=
p></div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">li=
ndsay</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:08 P=
M, Paddy Duncan &lt;<a>pad...@padski.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Lindsay,</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Then it is yours=
..</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Paddy</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;sa=
ns-serif&#39;;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt" lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOT=
TOM:0cm;PADDING-LEFT:0cm;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BOR=
DER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;=
sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Tahoma&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang=
=3D"EN-US"> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.com</a> [<a>mailto:london-h...@<u><=
/u>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lindsay Morrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2012 23:04<br><b>To:</b> <a>london-h...@googlegroups.c=
om</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [london-hack-space] Blacksmithing</span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">hello!</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0 i would REALLY love one of =
the blacksmithing spaces tomorrow.</span></p></div>
<div>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">li=
ndsay</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:01 P=
M, Paddy Duncan &lt;<a>pad...@padski.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are 2 places free for tomorrow, Hipster&#39;s =
(hurt his hammer hand), and mine (unexpectedly have to be elsewhere).<span =
lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is a wiki page...=A0 <a href=3D"http://wiki.lo=
ndon.hackspace.org.uk/view/Blacksmithing" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.lon=
don.hackspace.<u></u>org.uk/view/Blacksmithing</a><span lang=3D"EN-US"></sp=
an></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please reply asap if you are interested, priority wi=
ll go to those already on the page, and ideally I would like my place back =
the following week, as I am close to finishing what I want to achieve.<span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR:#888888">Paddy</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">No virus found in this message.=
<br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.=
avg..com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5137 - Release =
Date: 07/17/12</span></p>
</div></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">No virus found in this message.=
<br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.=
avg.com</a></span></p></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Da=
tabase: 2437/5230 - Release Date: 08/28/12 </span></p></div></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div></div=
></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - =
<a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5251 - R=
elease Date: 09/05/12 <span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p></div></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">No virus found in this message.=
<br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.=
avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5272 - Release D=
ate: 09/16/12</span></p>
</div></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - =
<a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Versio=
n: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5273 - Release Date: 09/17/12</p></di=
v>
</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div>=
<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br>

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