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Ximin Luo  
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 More options Oct 31 2012, 10:04 pm
From: Ximin Luo <infini...@gmx.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 02:04:34 +0000
Local: Wed, Oct 31 2012 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: [london-hack-space] Grievance Procedure Update
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On 31/10/12 13:15, samthetechie wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:08:09 PM UTC, Tim R wrote:

>>>     What did happen was we gave you multiple reminders and warnings,
>>>     culminating in (with other issues included) a first warning. From
>>>     this you were reminded of the rules and are in no way ignorant of
>> them.

>>> *But I was not given any hint this time even though the situation is
>>> totally different, got you*

>> but how was it different?

>    - much shorter timescale
>    - a definite end point when it will be removed
>    - someone is coming to help me fix it
>    - nobody has told me it was in their way
>    - it is in the bike area of the space

If you think you are somehow championing any principles of individual liberty,
stop thinking this - you are not.

As much as I hate blanket rules, and I firmly disagree that "reason is
immaterial", in this particular case (and as in previous cases) you do not seem
to have any significantly special reason to override the general principle of
not storing bikes in the space.

Anyone can apply the same reasoning as you are doing to justify this action;
but if everyone did so the hackspace would be non-functional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

> A bike you own was in the space. The reason is
>> immaterial. The rule is "no bikes in the space", not "no bikes in the
>> space unless x y z or perhaps a b c" ? You've been spoken to about bikes
>> in the space dozens of times, you know its an issue - yet you still
>> decided that it was probably going to be ok.

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