Public Service Announcement: wheel clamping is now illegal

[Russ Garrett]

What this basically means is that instead of getting clamped in the
Hackspace parking spaces, we will stick large, rude,
difficult-to-remove stickers to your windscreen.

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Russ Garrett
ru...@garrett.co.uk

[Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb]

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I guess this also applies to people who are tenants in other Cremin Street Business Centre offices too? A number of times I tried to park in LHS spaces only to find other tenants cars in there.

Much shaking of fists was carried out.

Bernard

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[Monty]

Did you make note of the plates and email the trustees to try get something could be done about that problem?

[Ian Henderson]

Whilst wheel clamping on public spaces is now illegal the owner of the land can still use a penalty charge notice civil debt penalty system to fine offenders

This is what my local council (Islington) is doing to control estate parking. Previously they would clamp and fine - now they just fine with a PCN issued

[Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb]

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No. This was months ago when I had my car still. From memory it was an obnoxiously large black Porsche Cayenne.

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[Mike Harrison]

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 03:29:23 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>Whilst wheel clamping on public spaces is now illegal the owner of the land can still use a penalty charge notice civil debt penalty system to fine offenders

Which is not legally enforcible and can safely be ignored. Companies cannot fine people.

>This is what my local council (Islington) is doing to control estate parking. Previously they would clamp and fine - now they just fine with a PCN issued

Council is different - they are covered by Off-street Parking orders.

[Nigel Worsley]

> Whilst wheel clamping on public spaces is now illegal the owner of the land can still
> use a penalty charge notice civil debt penalty system to fine offenders

True, but in disputed cases it is now them that have to go to court for the money
rather than the driver. I would think this is rather difficult for them if you claim you
weren't the driver, as unlike official fines you are not legally required to state who
WAS the driver and the debt (it is not a fine) doesn't automatically default back
to the registered keeper.

The unfair terms in consumer contracts regulations will also apply, so charging
£150 for being in a parking space for 2 minutes is likely to get thrown out of court.

Basically, the racketeers are pretty much out of business.

Nigle