"Zeus" 64 core / 512Gb ram machine - London Hackspace

The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is incompatible with the new version.
Message from discussion "Zeus" 64 core / 512Gb ram machine
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jaimalcho...@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.176;
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAP0RkBBVJMU2UrZd6rbFyZ0Q0bo9dHAH-6d00-7mZG4sZf3...@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1210072108160.3754@ybpnyubfg> <CAH0AK2gi0h735aYnoNuRcLjOpgBw83ycG6mSRdwRTVhoGvc...@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPoUDJEY83KHRoaGzL7ALbhK=1tP_sJ+1M6m5fzyKdnBKLa...@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGqn4cYS7RAOsP4f-=vJi=kcxSDoFa9i2WZVm1LQTcSMf_+...@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPoUDJF83keaH2M0SdUYyk7n+n9Hbj7mMSox22N+PhLXBTN...@mail.gmail.com> <CAP0RkBBVJMU2UrZd6rbFyZ0Q0bo9dHAH-6d00-7mZG4sZf3...@mail.gmail.com>
From: Jaimal Chohan <jaimalcho...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:36:25 +0100
Message-ID: <CADaEH=t5DJbRnLDFTLv6t8KBr71vYkKAvk01JPKraQiSNUK...@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [london-hack-space] "Zeus" 64 core / 512Gb ram machine
To: london-hack-space@googlegroups.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234ad5735c8e04cb8b79d4

--e89a8f234ad5735c8e04cb8b79d4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As somebody previously mentioned, the cost of a 88 core/60gb EC2 instance
is $2.40 (~=A31.60) per hour.  So it;s not like the cost or availability of
such a machine is prohibitive (unlike say access to a Laser Cutter or
3-in-one).

Not having 'Zeus' would also means not having the maintenance/management
effort required (I'd imagine with such a system there's going to be a fair
amount of tweaking required on a project by project basis depending on
which resources are being pushed)

Finally, I was under the impression that the idea of 'big data' projects,
from a technology standpoint, is supposed to be that you can distribute
workload (and reduce bottlenecks) for improved performance, as long as you
can develop the project on a less able machine, you should be able to
execute it in an EC2 environment.


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM, David Murphy <murphy.da...@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> few people do big data projects which can't be handled on a modern gaming
> rig.
>
> I certainly see the point. but it's worth a try for a couple of months.
> perhaps someone will do something really interesting.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Clare Greenhalgh <
> claregreenha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Surely my point was that this is not going to be used as much as the
>> laser cutter and 3-in-1? This is not yet up and running so surely it is =
a
>> different argument.
>>
>> Ask the list how many people think they will genuinely use it.
>>
>> Noko
>>
>> On 8 October 2012 11:47, SamLR <sam.lindenrat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  I think Russ's point that the Space is planning to move (which costs
>>>> money) and it is worth a great deal (relatively speaking) should over-=
rule
>>>> the points about how it could be used. We need to look at the space a =
a
>>>> community, which has the best interests of the majority at heart. I ha=
ve
>>>> used the laser cutter twice (but know other people use it a lot, but d=
on't
>>>> pay for the time they are on it, which is disgraceful, and think it is=
 a
>>>> brilliant piece of equipment).
>>>
>>>
>>> I think if people are genuninely going to use it and it's not going to
>>> be a drain on resources (i.e. space and money, which by if it can be st=
ored
>>> nicely in the toilets and have its 'leccy paid for it won't be) then we
>>> should keep it.
>>>
>>> By your argument we should also sell the laser cutter & 3-in-1 as
>>> they're worth a fair bit.
>>>
>>> I'm more worried that it will get used once or twice and become a drain
>>> on resources (by depreciating whilst taking up space or by being used a=
nd
>>> not paid for).
>>>
>>> In the interest of fairness I would be very interested to see how much
>>> various other items cost in terms of electricity.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

--e89a8f234ad5735c8e04cb8b79d4
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div>As somebody previously mentioned, the cost of a 88 core/60gb EC2 insta=
nce is $2.40 (~=A31.60) per hour. =A0So it;s not like the cost or availabil=
ity of such a machine is=A0prohibitive (unlike say access to a Laser Cutter=
 or 3-in-one). =A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>Not having &#39;Zeus&#39; would also means not having t=
he maintenance/management effort required (I&#39;d imagine with such a syst=
em there&#39;s going to be a fair amount of tweaking required on a project =
by project basis depending on which resources are being pushed)</div>

<div><br></div>Finally, I was under the impression that the idea of &#39;bi=
g data&#39; projects, from a technology standpoint, is supposed to be that =
you can distribute workload (and reduce bottlenecks) for improved performan=
ce, as long as you can develop the project on a less able machine, you shou=
ld be able to execute it in an EC2 environment.<div>

<br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:07 P=
M, David Murphy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:murphy.david@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">murphy.da...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>few people do big data projects which can&#39;t be handled on a modern=
 gaming rig. </div>
<div><br>I certainly see the point. but it&#39;s worth a try for a couple o=
f months. perhaps someone will do something really interesting. <br><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Clare Greenhalg=
h <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:claregreenha...@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">claregreenha...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D=
"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-serif">Surely my point was that this is not =
going to be used as much as the laser cutter and 3-in-1? This is not yet up=
 and running so surely it is a different argument.</font></font></font>=20
<div><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-se=
rif"><br></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-se=
rif">Ask the list how many people think they will genuinely use it.=A0</fon=
t></font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-se=
rif"><br></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-se=
rif">Noko<br></font></font></font>
<div>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8 October 2012 11:47, SamLR <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sam.lindenrat...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sam.li=
ndenrat...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><font color=3D"#330033"><font size=3D=
"+0"><font face=3D"tahoma,sans-serif">I think Russ&#39;s point that the Spa=
ce is planning to move (which costs money) and it is worth a great deal (re=
latively speaking) should over-rule the points about how it could be used. =
We need to look at the space a a community, which has the best interests of=
 the majority at heart. I have used the laser cutter twice (but know other =
people use it a lot, but don&#39;t pay for the time they are on it, which i=
s disgraceful, and think it is a brilliant piece of equipment).=A0</font></=
font></font></blockquote>



<div><br></div>
<div>I think if people are genuninely going to use it and it&#39;s not goin=
g to be a drain on resources (i.e. space and money, which by if it can be s=
tored nicely in the toilets and have its &#39;leccy paid for it won&#39;t b=
e) then we should keep it.=A0</div>



<div><br></div>
<div>By your argument we should also sell the laser cutter &amp; 3-in-1 as =
they&#39;re worth a fair bit.=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I&#39;m more worried that it will get used once or twice and become a =
drain on resources (by depreciating whilst taking up space or by being used=
 and not paid for).=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>In the interest of fairness I would be very interested to see how much=
 various other items cost in terms of electricity. =A0</div></div></blockqu=
ote></div><br><br clear=3D"all">
<div><br></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

--e89a8f234ad5735c8e04cb8b79d4--
Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
Account Options
