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hfs...@googlemail.com

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May 18, 2013, 9:44:30 AM5/18/13
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As a fundraiser for the space, I'd like to run a 24 Lan Party in the space open to members AND non-members, planning and other things obviously need to be done first, but is anyone against the idea in general?

I imagine it will take place in the class room, with 20 to 40 people.

I'm roughing a guide price of £10 per head for entry

Please give me your ideas!

Morris

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May 18, 2013, 9:46:29 AM5/18/13
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Sounds fun

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Martin (Crypt)

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May 18, 2013, 9:49:28 AM5/18/13
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I'm always up for pwning some n00bs

hfs...@googlemail.com

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May 18, 2013, 9:52:33 AM5/18/13
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after eye balling the classroom, I reckon we can get about 20+rigs in there, though I'd like to have more attend as well as run classic game tournaments and stuff.

cromiumlake

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May 18, 2013, 12:46:18 PM5/18/13
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What sort of game do you have in mind? Shooting perhaps what about Unreal Tournament '99, It meets both criteria (classic game tournaments)

hfs...@googlemail.com

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May 18, 2013, 12:55:21 PM5/18/13
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so far I'm thinking

UT '99
UT 2k4
Quake 2/3
serious sam
CoD: UO
GTA 1
supreme commander
CS of some type


other suggestions are welcome, but keep it to something everyone will have (CS) or something thats free/easily pirateable


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Monty

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May 18, 2013, 1:37:55 PM5/18/13
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Lets not go advocating piracy on a public forum, particularly when you're planning to charge a 10£ entry fee for the event...

Henry Sands

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May 18, 2013, 1:40:34 PM5/18/13
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Good point, change that to "games that have been made freely available by the developers"

Tim Reynolds

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May 18, 2013, 1:57:22 PM5/18/13
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No pirate stuff please
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Tim Reynolds

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May 18, 2013, 2:00:27 PM5/18/13
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Yeah, and this needs to be an actual thing not just a euphemism :P no "abandonware" 

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Good point, change that to "games that have been made freely available by the developers"

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cromiumlake

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May 18, 2013, 6:25:15 PM5/18/13
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nice, I'm in if it is UT '99 and! you have enable teleporter  :)
Mean while if you want to practice (hehehe):

Henry Sands

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May 19, 2013, 4:58:01 AM5/19/13
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some more brainstorming from IRC

hackspace themed prizes for tournaments
dota inhouse
no torrenting/blocking it for 24 hrs
possible names: LANspace, Ping, London Hack Space Fundraising LAN Party-Styled Gathering (LHSFLANPSG), FLAN

Henry Sands

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May 25, 2013, 8:54:09 AM5/25/13
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Worked out a basic seating plan to hold 48~ people, we have enough tables, but not enough chairs, I have put out an advert on freespace but if anyone comes across a bulk lot of office chairs let me know.


Power, switch position and wireless access are all issues that we still need to deal with, once thats done we can work on tournaments and prizes, I'd love some lasercut game logos and other cool stuff to make trophies with, something that's really hack-spacey but doesn't cost much money.
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Henry Sands

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May 25, 2013, 1:59:02 PM5/25/13
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Ideas for a logo and name

Charles Yarnold

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May 25, 2013, 2:06:36 PM5/25/13
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prefix: I'm hoping to attend

I don't think taking up that much room would be in the best interest of the space as a whole, can we restrict it to just the classroom?


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Jonty Wareing

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May 25, 2013, 2:25:18 PM5/25/13
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Yeah, you can't really take over the whole space, it's not fair on the
members who want to use the space...as a hackspace.

Random thought: It might be nice to open up the servers to the wider
world and get other hackerspaces to join in. We can do space VS space
teams etc.

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P.S. I also intend to come!
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pad...@padski.co.uk

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May 25, 2013, 3:13:42 PM5/25/13
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And on a practical note, we may have a problem supplying close to 100 amps (potentially)
Paddy

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Martin (Crypt)

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May 25, 2013, 3:19:52 PM5/25/13
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Before when we had the inter-hackspace gaming night, it was fun to have a few different hackspaces forming teams to go shoot each other, could be fun again to involve some others.  I'm definately in for it though

cepm...@yahoo.co.uk

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May 25, 2013, 3:22:13 PM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 20:13:42 +0100, pad...@padski.co.uk
<pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

> And on a practical note, we may have a problem supplying close to 100
> amps (potentially)
> Paddy

I thought potential was measured in Volts.

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Tim Reynolds

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May 25, 2013, 3:31:46 PM5/25/13
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There was an inter-hackspace gaming thing recently. I think Hipster and
Crypt took part. Alien Arena? I can't remember

Henry Sands

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May 25, 2013, 3:57:47 PM5/25/13
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To be fair, its for a single 24 hour period and all money raised is going directly into the hackspace wallet, and it should be a sizeable amount, this is purely as a fundraiser for the space.

Henry Sands

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May 25, 2013, 4:16:27 PM5/25/13
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in fact to elaborate on this artag posted something interesting on IRC

<artag> it doesn't seem unreasonable to shut the upstairs for a fundraiser. the workshop is still free and it's to help pay for people to have a space.
<YetiFiasco> ^
<YetiFiasco> the sofas will still be there and we can set up a few tables in the quiet room
<artag> the electronics benches would still be free too. what would people actually be prevented from doing ?
<YetiFiasco> the area by the 3d printer will be free also

pad...@padski.co.uk

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May 25, 2013, 5:09:21 PM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 20:13:42 +0100, pad...@padski.co.uk <pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

> And on a practical note, we may have a problem supplying close to 100 > amps (potentially)
> Paddy

I thought potential was measured in Volts.

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Henry Sands

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May 25, 2013, 5:27:23 PM5/25/13
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the 6th turns out to be mini-maker fare at elephant and castle so thats out, what about the 20th july?

Jasper Wallace

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May 25, 2013, 11:56:18 PM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013, Henry Sands wrote:

> in fact to elaborate on this artag posted something interesting on IRC
> <artag> it doesn't seem unreasonable to shut the upstairs for a fundraiser. the workshop is still free and it's to help pay
> for people to have a space.
> <YetiFiasco> ^
> <YetiFiasco> the sofas will still be there and we can set up a few tables in the quiet room
> <artag> the electronics benches would still be free too. what would people actually be prevented from doing ?
> <YetiFiasco> the area by the 3d printer will be free also

And the quiet room should be up and running by then...
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Nigel Worsley

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May 26, 2013, 8:37:09 AM5/26/13
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> And the quiet room should be up and running by then...

True, but the proposals use every table and significantly more chairs
than we currently have, so it may end up being an empty (and therefore
useless) room.

I think a LAN party is a great idea, but there needs to be some space
left for hacking. With furniture in it!

£10 seems a bit cheap to me, bearing in mind it is intended as a fund raiser.

Nigle

Henry Sands

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May 26, 2013, 10:23:08 AM5/26/13
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its not every table, we will have 9 table left as far as I'v counted, so there isn't exactly a shortage. Chairs are another matter, but if I end up having to hire chairs then I'll just hire more than I need to make sure there is enough for people who want to hack to be able to hack.

£10 is cheap, but I want it to be popular more than profitable (though a sizeable profit should be made), leaving it at £10 gives people money to spend on snacks/drink/bbq/club mate and having a good time, we may even get some new members out of it as well as groups of hackers who usually don't meet socializing in a cool way.

With it being a cheap experience, peoples expectations are lowered, which means when we blow them away with our awesome fun attitude they are more likely to think it was well worth it making possible future LANs possible and worth doing.

StoneyMahoney

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May 26, 2013, 2:48:24 PM5/26/13
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Love to come, got a couple of non-members friends who are interested already.

Few suggestions:
OpenArena - OS'd version of Q3
CS - most gamers have at least one of CS:S and CS:CZ in their Steam library depending on their personal perference (HL1ish or Source engine)
Bomberman 95 - tough to locate 5 copies of it and get it running, but 10 players on 5 PCs is great when the second win wears off - must be an OS version...
World Of Tanks - Freemium online game, chunky download but private rooms are easy to start, good when folk are ready for something a little slower.

Worth checking through Humble Bundle contents as well, I suspect there may have been a game or two worth checking out.

Henry Sands

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May 26, 2013, 2:53:20 PM5/26/13
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open arena sounds perfect, everythings up for play, its only the date that needs deciding.

Chris Trotter

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May 26, 2013, 7:03:47 PM5/26/13
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Sounds great count me in.

Henry Sands

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May 27, 2013, 6:25:16 AM5/27/13
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http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/London_FRAGspace

Wiki page is now up with a preliminary outline of the rules and details, to be updated as things get sorted.

Henry Sands

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May 27, 2013, 7:18:02 AM5/27/13
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http://store.steampowered.com/sub/683/

for those that don't already own them, the entire unreal pack is available on steam for £5 for the nest 6 hour, well worth the price.

wyan std

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May 28, 2013, 10:46:52 AM5/28/13
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The idea itself sounds great, but I don't think shutting down the space for a whole day to hackers is a nice idea, especially if the event isn't even going to raise that much money.

The issue of electricity is also worth looking at beforehand... just to make sure things don't blow up or burn (see Rule #0)



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Genius! Wow that would be epic!, well if Henry decides to enable teleporter :)

Crom

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Henry Sands

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May 28, 2013, 11:19:51 AM5/28/13
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the event is going to raise between £500-£1000, and it does not shut the space down for hackers for the day, there will be PLENTY of space to hack, more than the regular Saturday crowd need.

Kimball Johnson

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May 28, 2013, 11:24:08 AM5/28/13
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On 28 May 2013 16:19, Henry Sands <hfs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
the event is going to raise between £500-£1000, and it does not shut the space down for hackers for the day, there will be PLENTY of space to hack, more than the regular Saturday crowd need.


Sorry, How?  48x£10 was  £480 last time I checked, and you need to deduct the cost of electricity for running 48 computers from that.  

Also that's £480 gross assuming you sell out.

Kimball

Nigel Worsley

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May 28, 2013, 11:25:43 AM5/28/13
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> there will be PLENTY of space to hack

With tables and chairs in it?

Nigle

Henry Sands

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May 28, 2013, 11:32:33 AM5/28/13
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£480 will be the gross from tickets, the rest will be raised with energy drink/snacks and a BBQ, which by all previous accounts with people who have run LANs of a similar size it should generate around £200.

With tables, chairs are another issue, if we don't have any more by the event then I'll have to rent some, if I do I will rent extra so there is plenty of seating.

Clare Greenhalgh

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May 28, 2013, 11:42:34 AM5/28/13
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That still does not tally to £1000 though.... I think we need to charge more for the tickets to cover the cost of the electricity too...

How will this make profit as there is also the cost of the snacks and BBQ..?




Henry Sands

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May 28, 2013, 12:17:22 PM5/28/13
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The added electricity cost for the event will be roughly £30-40, I have raised the price to £15 per ticket, and if people are really really adamant that there will not be space for regular hackers during hte event, could I at least use SOME of the space outside the classroom, take it down from 48 to 40-30. (I still believe there will be plenty of space + chairs + tables for regular hackers)

StoneyMahoney

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Jun 6, 2013, 6:41:13 PM6/6/13
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This week's Humble Sale is Serious Sam - excellent LAN party fodder! Definitely worth picking this one up!



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