Yes, I have made it abundantly clear to our landlords that members are
paying for the right to have access to the space, and thus they are
all entitled to have the code. Non-members are the issue here.
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This adds a little inconvenience but it's not impossible.
It would be interesting to know why the management have decided to
introduce this. Have there been some problems ? Are other residents
concerned about night visitors (in which case we've probably caused
it) ? The theft of the hackvan doesn't seem relevant since the keypads
would have had no effect on that.
-adrian
Our main concern is about people not being able to get in on Tuesday
evenings, rather than anything else.
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Perhaps extending the RFID system downstairs would be the ideal answer to both convenience for
members and keeping landlords happy, as it can offer a log of who entered when. This could be as
simple as showing a green light to the security staff.
I'd guess they'd be less likely to object to a cable being run for the purpose if they can see the
potential benefit.
It strikes me that the only inconvenience is the lack of access for
non-members, whose cards aren't hooked up to the Hackspace system
anyway. So that's not really going to help anything.
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On 10 July 2011 22:44, Mike Harrison <mi...@whitewing.co.uk> wrote:It strikes me that the only inconvenience is the lack of access for
> Perhaps extending the RFID system downstairs would be the ideal answer to both convenience for
> members and keeping landlords happy, as it can offer a log of who entered when. This could be as
> simple as showing a green light to the security staff.
>
> I'd guess they'd be less likely to object to a cable being run for the purpose if they can see the
> potential benefit.
non-members, whose cards aren't hooked up to the Hackspace system
anyway. So that's not really going to help anything.
Might help if they change the code often - probably unlikely due to hassles for other tenants
though.
Another thought - can their system handle multiple entry codes?
If so, maybe a temporary code could be used for Tues nights, so someone could call the space
landline or use IRC for that night's code
My understanding is that one of the tenants had a van stolen from the
site.
Mike.
Again, the new security would have zero effect on this because it is on
the door to the building and not on the gates.
Robert
Although I didn't end up telling the landlord that because I would
have seemed like a bit of a numpty complaining that a van with a
missing drivers-side window was stolen in Hackney.
At any rate, the code lock is on the stairwell door so this doesn't
increase the security of the car park.
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Ah, that makes more sense.
How does this affect lift usage?
I assume the security guard will leave the lift door open on one of
the other floors to stop them being called from the ground (as they
have done before when they locked the stairwell doors). The astute
among you will note that this completely kills disabled accessibility.
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At the moment the security guard tends to leave the lift doors open on
one of the upper floors to disable them out of hours, so I assume that
will continue.
I believe we mentioned this in our message to Workspace Group about
access, as it is far from ideal.
Robert
If it would help for me to come along to a meeting, or write a letter
explaining exactly how that contravenes disability accessibility, I'd
be more than happy to.