[lojban] Re: SE with conjunctions

[John E Clifford]

Well, as noted recently, SE is mainly a
rhetorical device, with a little logical value
for scopes and maybe some other things.

--- Pierre Abbat <ph...@phma.hn.org> wrote:
> SE is grammatical with both logical and
> non-logical conjunctions, but the only
> usage mentioned in the refgram is {se} with
> logical conjunctions, of which
> the only ones it makes a difference with are
> {u/ju/gi'u/gu'u/gu}. What does
> {te ju} mean? Does {se} make a difference with
> any JOI (I think it should
> with {ce'o}, {fa'u}, and, if I understand it
> right, {pi'u})?
>
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[Pierre Abbat]

[Robin Lee Powell]

On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:07:11PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> SE is grammatical with both logical and non-logical conjunctions,
> but the only usage mentioned in the refgram is {se} with logical
> conjunctions, of which the only ones it makes a difference with
> are {u/ju/gi'u/gu'u/gu}. What does {te ju} mean? Does {se} make a
> difference with any JOI (I think it should with {ce'o}, {fa'u},
> and, if I understand it right, {pi'u})?

There should be, but is not, a set subtraction JOI; that would also
apply.

{se fa'u} is Really Cool. Thanks for bringing that up.

-Robin

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