[lojban] scoreGismu

[tijlan]

This may well sound a very newbie question to experienced programmers.

After I installed the newest version of ActivePerl, I tried, via my Windows 7's command prompt, to load a text file (containing source words for my experimental gismu) into scoreGismu.pl (created by Hussell, if I remember correctly) with this command:
 filename.txt scoreGismu.pl
It opens the text file in Notepad, but the scoring doesn't start in the command prompt window like it used to do in my Windows XP. My hunch is that I entered a wrong command. Please educate me.

I'm also wondering if this program could be browser-based.

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[István Lakatos]

I think you wrote the command in the wrong order. It should be scoreGismu.pl filename.txt

[Robert Slaughter]

The typical order is "command/program filename", so
C:\>scoreGismu.pl filename.txt
should work.

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[tijlan]

On 24 April 2010 04:51, Robert Slaughter <rs...@mindspring.com> wrote:

The typical order is "command/program filename", so
C:\>scoreGismu.pl filename.txt
should work.

2010/4/24 István Lakatos <lakato...@gmail.com>

I think you wrote the command in the wrong order. It should be scoreGismu.pl filename.txt

I had tried that. The line breaks onto a new empty one (with no "C:\"), unable to go back with Backspace or "cd". I tried also different text files including the ones which scoreGismu.pl on Windows XP used to load and successfully score.

I'll attach the program to this message.

[Ben Birt]

I've never used Perl, but I'd expect the command to be something like "perl scoreGismu.pl filename.txt".

[tijlan]

On 24 April 2010 12:33, Ben Birt <benjam...@googlemail.com> wrote:

I've never used Perl, but I'd expect the command to be something like "perl scoreGismu.pl filename.txt".

It returns this:
{ 'perl' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. }

If I enter only "scoreGismu.pl", the window title changes from "Command Prompt" to "Command Prompt - scoreGismu.pl", so it does seem to recognise the program this way, but I get a new empty line again in which no command seems able to effectuate anything.

[Ben Birt]

In that case, perl is probably not in your PATH variable. You *probably* need to either:

1) put the directory path to the perl executable in your PATH variable (there should be pretty easy-to-find instructions to find via Google for this).
2) run perl using the whole of its directory path in front of the perl command (e.g. "C:\Perl\perl.exe scoreGismu.pl filename.txt")

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 10:00:43 tijlan wrote:
> On 24 April 2010 12:33, Ben Birt <benjam...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > I've never used Perl, but I'd expect the command to be something like
> > "perl scoreGismu.pl filename.txt".
>
> It returns this:
> { 'perl' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
> program or batch file. }

When I first tried to run it, I got this error:
bash: /tmp/scoreGismu.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or
directory
The reason is that all the lines ended with a carriage return and line feed,
instead of just a line feed. Once I fixed that, I got a Perl error, "Can't
locate Algorithm/Diff.pm". That I haven't fixed; I have to install some Perl
module.

What's the program supposed to do? I don't see any comments in it.

Pierre
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[tijlan]

On 24 April 2010 19:49, Ben Birt <benjam...@googlemail.com> wrote:

In that case, perl is probably not in your PATH variable. You *probably* need to either:

1) put the directory path to the perl executable in your PATH variable (there should be pretty easy-to-find instructions to find via Google for this).
2) run perl using the whole of its directory path in front of the perl command (e.g. "C:\Perl\perl.exe scoreGismu.pl filename.txt")

The second option worked! Thank you very much.

[tijlan]

On 24 April 2010 20:26, Pierre Abbat <ph...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

What's the program supposed to do? I don't see any comments in it.

It loads a set of Lojbanized source words plus an optional weighting like

 iun 0.347 upiog 0.196 emploi 0.160 us 0.123 primin 0.089 amal 0.085 (it's the actual etymology of "pilno")

and score every possible gismu (80,000+) in regard to these source words. The source languages need not be the conventional ones and can be more than six.

It doesn't always score with the same result as for an official gismu. For instance, the gismu with the highest score of 0.4767... in regard to the above source words is "mlino" according to this program, not "pilno", even with the older weighting:

 iun 0.36 emploi 0.21 upiog 0.16 us 0.11 primin 0.09 amal 0.07

[Minimiscience]

de'i li 24 pi'e 04 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.

> It doesn't always score with the same result as for an official gismu. For
> instance, the gismu with the highest score of 0.4767... in regard to the
> above source words is "mlino" according to this program, not "pilno", even
> with the older weighting:
>
> iun 0.36 emploi 0.21 upiog 0.16 us 0.11 primin 0.09 amal 0.07

.skamyxatra

That's because the script doesn't implement step 2b of the {gismu} creation
algorithm correctly. This can be fixed by changing lines 114-118 from:

> if($gismu =~ /$lcs[0].?$lcs[1]/) {
> if($word =~ /$lcs[0].?$lcs[1]/) {
> $score += $weight * 2 / @wordSequence;
> }
> }

to:

> $score += $weight * 2 / @wordSequence
> if $gismu =~ /$lcs[0]$lcs[1]/ && $word =~ /$lcs[0]$lcs[1]/
> || $gismu =~ /$lcs[0].$lcs[1]/ && $word =~ /$lcs[0].$lcs[1]/

You'll also need to have an empty file in place of gismu.txt in order for
extant {gismu} (and anything they conflict with) to be considered for scoring.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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