[lojban-beginners] {pau} for indirect questions or an equivalent

[Ian Johnson]

A possible question situation:
.i pau ko'a gerku gi'i mlatu
In this case {pau} is included to make it clear initially that the sentence is interrogative and possibly also for emphasis. What happens in the analogous indirect question:
.i mi djuno lodu'u pau ko'a gerku gi'ikau mlatu
Does {pau} modify the bridi or the abstraction? If the former, is there a way to label an abstraction as being an indirect question early?

mu'omi'e latros.

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[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday 16 April 2010 08:39:15 Ian Johnson wrote:
> A possible question situation:
> .i pau ko'a gerku gi'i mlatu
> In this case {pau} is included to make it clear initially that the sentence
> is interrogative and possibly also for emphasis. What happens in the
> analogous indirect question:
> .i mi djuno lodu'u pau ko'a gerku gi'ikau mlatu
> Does {pau} modify the bridi or the abstraction? If the former, is there a
> way to label an abstraction as being an indirect question early?

{pau} modifies the immediately preceding word, which is {du'u}, so it modifies
the abstraction.

Pierre
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[Jorge Llambías]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Ian Johnson <blindb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A possible question situation:
> .i pau ko'a gerku gi'i mlatu
> In this case {pau} is included to make it clear initially that the sentence
> is interrogative and possibly also for emphasis. What happens in the
> analogous indirect question:
> .i mi djuno lodu'u pau ko'a gerku gi'ikau mlatu
> Does {pau} modify the bridi or the abstraction? If the former, is there a
> way to label an abstraction as being an indirect question early?

Excellent question. I think this should work:

.i mi djuno lo du'u kau ko'a gerku gi'i mlatu

In fact, I think I'm going to start using that form, especially for
afterthought conective indirect questions, which I feel always come
too late and cause garden pathing.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

[Ian Johnson]

So {kau} can be tagged onto the abstraction itself and not just the question word. That's interesting and also rather powerful. It also makes a bit of sense, given that {kau} is not its own selma'o or something, but is rather in UI.

mu'omi'e latros.

2010/4/16 Jorge Llambías <jjlla...@gmail.com>