He//o folks,
Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
Lively Help groups i think.
It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
put down their address as
1800 Amphiteater Way
California 12345
so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
which adds to the smell factor, BUT
Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
don't endorse this.
Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
original Lively
Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
using to check out what the hell this is all about.
Interesting? Yes
Unfinished? yes
Strange? yes
Happy New Year? Yes
Yes, i tried it, and while I do not know if the site will remain up given
the close replication of Lively, I am quite impressed that who ever did this
could put this together in less than a month. It feels like a combination
of clubcooee and lively - lively background/objects/web interface and
clubcooee like avatars (not too bad ...still no eye blinking though) . It
also allows arrow keys for moving and space bar for jumping up and down.
The english spellings on the site indicate that it is a non-native english
speaker who has created this. Will be interesting to see where this goes
and Google's reaction to it!
~Kos
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> He//o folks,
> Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
> Lively Help groups i think.
> It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
> put down their address as
> 1800 Amphiteater Way
> California 12345
> so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
> which adds to the smell factor, BUT
> Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
> don't endorse this.
> Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
> but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
> original Lively
> Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
> using to check out what the hell this is all about.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:04 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, i tried it, and while I do not know if the site will remain up given
> the close replication of Lively, I am quite impressed that who ever did this
> could put this together in less than a month. It feels like a combination
> of clubcooee and lively - lively background/objects/web interface and
> clubcooee like avatars (not too bad ...still no eye blinking though) . It
> also allows arrow keys for moving and space bar for jumping up and down.
> The english spellings on the site indicate that it is a non-native english
> speaker who has created this. Will be interesting to see where this goes
> and Google's reaction to it!
> ~Kos
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> He//o folks,
>> Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
>> Lively Help groups i think.
>> It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
>> put down their address as
>> 1800 Amphiteater Way
>> California 12345
>> so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>> which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>> Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>> don't endorse this.
>> Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>> but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>> original Lively
>> Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>> using to check out what the hell this is all about.
If you happen to try it and wonder why you dont see your chat bubbles, move
your camera view to look above you and you'll see it..... one of the many
bugs .....
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Cherry <cherrys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tried it, tend to agree with Kos, I see it vanishing judging on how close
> it reflects Googles Lively, we will see.....
> Cherry
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:04 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, i tried it, and while I do not know if the site will remain up given
>> the close replication of Lively, I am quite impressed that who ever did this
>> could put this together in less than a month. It feels like a combination
>> of clubcooee and lively - lively background/objects/web interface and
>> clubcooee like avatars (not too bad ...still no eye blinking though) . It
>> also allows arrow keys for moving and space bar for jumping up and down.
>> The english spellings on the site indicate that it is a non-native english
>> speaker who has created this. Will be interesting to see where this goes
>> and Google's reaction to it!
>> ~Kos
>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> He//o folks,
>>> Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
>>> Lively Help groups i think.
>>> It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
>>> put down their address as
>>> 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>> California 12345
>>> so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>> which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>> Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>> don't endorse this.
>>> Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>>> but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>> original Lively
>>> Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>> using to check out what the hell this is all about.
Yes I tried it too....hmm
I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
put into it.
Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
to do such a thing.
Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
So THANKYOU Whoever.
Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
installing it
By the way...it works pretty fast!
On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> He//o folks,
> Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
> Lively Help groups i think.
> It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
> put down their address as
> 1800 Amphiteater Way
> California 12345
> so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
> which adds to the smell factor, BUT
> Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
> don't endorse this.
> Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
> but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
> original Lively
> Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
> using to check out what the hell this is all about.
This is good news!
I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?]But who
are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them. I own
a web server company.
> Yes I tried it too....hmm
> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
> put into it.
> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
> to do such a thing.
> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
> So THANKYOU Whoever.
> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
> installing it
> By the way...it works pretty fast!
> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > He//o folks,
> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
> > Lively Help groups i think.
> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
> > put down their address as
> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
> > California 12345
> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
> > don't endorse this.
> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
> > original Lively
> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
> This is good news!
> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them. I
> own a web server company.
>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>> put into it.
>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>> to do such a thing.
>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>> installing it
>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > He//o folks,
>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
>> > put down their address as
>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>> > California 12345
>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>> > don't endorse this.
>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>> > original Lively
>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact them?
> This is good news!
>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them. I
>> own a web server company.
>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>> put into it.
>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>> to do such a thing.
>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>> installing it
>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > He//o folks,
>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
>>> > put down their address as
>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>> > California 12345
>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>> > don't endorse this.
>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>> > original Lively
>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
sponsored reprieve.
If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked for
our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus and
anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward and
expalins themselves and their plan.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never hurts
> right?
> Imajika
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact
>> them?
>> This is good news!
>>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them. I
>>> own a web server company.
>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>> put into it.
>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>> installing it
>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the Google
>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the registrant
>>>> > put down their address as
>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>> > California 12345
>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>> > original Lively
>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not think
this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all livelyzens do
not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in this site.
MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
> sponsored reprieve.
> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked for
> our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus and
> anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward and
> expalins themselves and their plan.
> Best of luck,
> Matt Dodson
> the rest of the hi
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never hurts
>> right?
>> Imajika
>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact
>>> them?
>>> This is good news!
>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>>>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>>>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them. I
>>>> own a web server company.
>>>> Best regards:
>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>> put into it.
>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>> installing it
>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>> Google
>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>> registrant
>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the original,
>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
The guy who created it has another website registered called morelively.com
which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
back in July and the address is located in China.
Just sharing what I found.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
> this site.
> ~Kos
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
>> sponsored reprieve.
>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked for
>> our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus and
>> anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward and
>> expalins themselves and their plan.
>> Best of luck,
>> Matt Dodson
>> the rest of the hi
>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
>>> hurts right?
>>> Imajika
>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact
>>>> them?
>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>>> This is good news!
>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>>>>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>>>>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them.
>>>>> I own a web server company.
>>>>> Best regards:
>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>>> put into it.
>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>>> registrant
>>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
>>>>>> original,
>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
0.o. so.. what we gonna do? im arleady download the client an try to be
there..
nothing happend.(bad i mean).
dunno. maybe is someone how was in lively project and wanna keep it going...
> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> morelively.com
> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
> back in July and the address is located in China.
> Just sharing what I found.
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
>> this site.
>> ~Kos
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
>>> sponsored reprieve.
>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked
>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus
>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward
>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Matt Dodson
>>> the rest of the hi
>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
>>>> hurts right?
>>>> Imajika
>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact
>>>>> them?
>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>>>> This is good news!
>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>>>>>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>>>>>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them.
>>>>>> I own a web server company.
>>>>>> Best regards:
>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>>>> put into it.
>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>>>> registrant
>>>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
>>>>>>> original,
>>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser on
it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to the
browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08 or so.
Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on their
website.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> morelively.com
> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
> back in July and the address is located in China.
> Just sharing what I found.
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
>> this site.
>> ~Kos
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
>>> sponsored reprieve.
>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked
>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus
>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward
>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Matt Dodson
>>> the rest of the hi
>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
>>>> hurts right?
>>>> Imajika
>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.[?] Should we contact
>>>>> them?
>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>>>> This is good news!
>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.[?]
>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar [?] But
>>>>>> who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens group? I would
>>>>>> like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help them.
>>>>>> I own a web server company.
>>>>>> Best regards:
>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>>>> put into it.
>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>>>> registrant
>>>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
>>>>>>> original,
>>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find
on the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he
was the project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working
continuously for the last month to bring us this technology. He's very
interested in getting in touch with other Livelyzens.
Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been
changed, it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the
legitimacy of the operation.
Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with
young man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my
questions to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in
the days or weeks to come (among them were the financing mode of the
operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had
copied the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games
being able to play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my
point of view) they are working (mind you, working, not planning) on a
version for Macintosh and Linux! Wooohooo!
In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and
balloons were visible too for a change (after some restarts of the
browser). Moving around is still jerky and animations are not yet
implemented. I have the impression that the system is updated on a
continuous schedule. I certainly intend to keep an eye on this
development.
> It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a
> web browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the
> browser on it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to
> log in to the browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around
> since January 08 or so. Newlively is just content it can view like
> the games and stuff on their website.
> I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for
> privacy. It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> *puts away shovel*
> --
> random
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> morelively.com
> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was
> created back in July and the address is located in China.
> Just sharing what I found.
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy
> who created this did contact our group through our contact us form
> as well as spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do
> not think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that
> all livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other
> accounts in this site.
> ~Kos
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com > > wrote:
> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE
> address. Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is
> nonexistent. the phone number is incomplete, and the zip code is
> wrong. So this NOT a Google sponsored reprieve.
> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and
> asked for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update
> your antivirus and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless
> the owner come forward and expalins themselves and their plan.
> Best of luck,
> Matt Dodson
> the rest of the hi
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
> hurts right?
> Imajika
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should we
> contact them?
> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
> <33A.gif>
> But who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens
> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
> them. I own a web server company.
> Yes I tried it too....hmm
> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
> put into it.
> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
> to do such a thing.
> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
> So THANKYOU Whoever.
> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
> installing it
> By the way...it works pretty fast!
> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > He//o folks,
> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
> Google
> > Lively Help groups i think.
> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
> registrant
> > put down their address as
> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
> > California 12345
> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
> > don't endorse this.
> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
> original,
> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
> > original Lively
> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
> -- > --Imajika
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
> You do not have to foresee the future, but to allow it...
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find on
> the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was the
> project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working continuously for
> the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in getting
> in touch with other Livelyzens.
> Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been changed,
> it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
> Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
> Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
> after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the legitimacy
> of the operation.
> Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with young
> man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my questions
> to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days or weeks
> to come (among them were the financing mode of the
> operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had copied
> the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being able to
> play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of view) they
> are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for Macintosh
> and Linux! Wooohooo!
> In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
> still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and balloons were
> visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving around
> is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the impression
> that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly intend to
> keep an eye on this development.
> Happy this year!
> oriste
> On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
> It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
> browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser on
> it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to the
> browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08 or so.
> Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on their
> website.
> I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for privacy.
> It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> *puts away shovel*
> --
> random
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The guy who created it has another website registered called
>> morelively.com
>> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
>> back in July and the address is located in China.
>> Just sharing what I found.
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy
>>> who created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well
>>> as spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
>>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
>>> this site.
>>> ~Kos
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
>>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
>>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
>>>> sponsored reprieve.
>>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked
>>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus
>>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward
>>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>>>> Best of luck,
>>>> Matt Dodson
>>>> the rest of the hi
>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
>>>>> hurts right?
>>>>> Imajika
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should we
>>>>>> contact them?
>>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> This is good news!
>>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
>>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
>>>>>>> <33A.gif>
>>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens
>>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
>>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
>>>>>>> Best regards:
>>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>>>>> put into it.
>>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>>>>> registrant
>>>>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
>>>>>>>> original,
>>>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer questions
on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that. He's also
surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what they've
done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations of lively
objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may make it
less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense of humour,
so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in gtalk if
anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested setting up
something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask questions in a
way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be something we
could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't believe I
forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find on
> the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was the
> project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working continuously for
> the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in getting
> in touch with other Livelyzens.
> Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been changed,
> it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
> Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
> Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
> after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the legitimacy
> of the operation.
> Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with young
> man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my questions
> to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days or weeks
> to come (among them were the financing mode of the
> operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had copied
> the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being able to
> play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of view) they
> are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for Macintosh
> and Linux! Wooohooo!
> In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
> still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and balloons were
> visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving around
> is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the impression
> that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly intend to
> keep an eye on this development.
> Happy this year!
> oriste
> On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
> It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
> browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser on
> it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to the
> browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08 or so.
> Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on their
> website.
> I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for privacy.
> It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> *puts away shovel*
> --
> random
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The guy who created it has another website registered called
>> morelively.com
>> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
>> back in July and the address is located in China.
>> Just sharing what I found.
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
>>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
>>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
>>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
>>> this site.
>>> ~Kos
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
>>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
>>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
>>>> sponsored reprieve.
>>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked
>>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus
>>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward
>>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>>>> Best of luck,
>>>> Matt Dodson
>>>> the rest of the hi
>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
>>>>> hurts right?
>>>>> Imajika
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should we
>>>>>> contact them?
>>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> This is good news!
>>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
>>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
>>>>>>> <33A.gif>
>>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens
>>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
>>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
>>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
>>>>>>> Best regards:
>>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
>>>>>>>> put into it.
>>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
>>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
>>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
>>>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
>>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
>>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
>>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
>>>>>>>> registrant
>>>>>>>> > put down their address as
>>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
>>>>>>>> > California 12345
>>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
>>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
>>>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
>>>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
>>>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
>>>>>>>> original,
>>>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
>>>>>>>> > original Lively
>>>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
>>>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
When I was in newLively yesterday, there was an avatar called
dizziebanjo talking to liu, the project lead. Dizziebanjo mentioned
that he was in the Google Lively trusted content developer program.
Today he has posted about newLively on his blog at:
http://dizzybanjo.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/an-afterlife-for-google-li...
> I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer questions
> on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
> multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that. He's also
> surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what they've
> done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations of lively
> objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may make it
> less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense of humour,
> so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
> On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in gtalk if
> anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested setting up
> something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask questions in a
> way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be something we
> could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
> That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't believe I
> forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
> --
> random
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find on
> > the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was the
> > project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working continuously for
> > the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in getting
> > in touch with other Livelyzens.
> > Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been changed,
> > it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
> > Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
> > Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
> > after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the legitimacy
> > of the operation.
> > Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with young
> > man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my questions
> > to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days or weeks
> > to come (among them were the financing mode of the
> > operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had copied
> > the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being able to
> > play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of view) they
> > are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for Macintosh
> > and Linux! Wooohooo!
> > In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
> > still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and balloons were
> > visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving around
> > is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the impression
> > that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly intend to
> > keep an eye on this development.
> > Happy this year!
> > oriste
> > On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
> > It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
> > browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser on
> > it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to the
> > browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08 or so.
> > Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on their
> > website.
> > I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for privacy.
> > It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> > *puts away shovel*
> > --
> > random
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> >> morelively.com
> >> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was created
> >> back in July and the address is located in China.
> >> Just sharing what I found.
> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy who
> >>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as well as
> >>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
> >>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do not
> >>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
> >>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other accounts in
> >>> this site.
> >>> ~Kos
> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
> >>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE address.
> >>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent. the phone
> >>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a Google
> >>>> sponsored reprieve.
> >>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and asked
> >>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your antivirus
> >>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come forward
> >>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
> >>>> Best of luck,
> >>>> Matt Dodson
> >>>> the rest of the hi
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say. Never
> >>>>> hurts right?
> >>>>> Imajika
> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should we
> >>>>>> contact them?
> >>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> This is good news!
> >>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
> >>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
> >>>>>>> <33A.gif>
> >>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens
> >>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help them.
> >>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
> >>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
> >>>>>>> Best regards:
> >>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
> >>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
> >>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies have
> >>>>>>>> put into it.
> >>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
> >>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
> >>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all out
> >>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
> >>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
> >>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR world!
> >>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
> >>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
> >>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
> >>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits through
> >>>>>>>> installing it
> >>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
> >>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
> >>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on the
> >>>>>>>> Google
> >>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
> >>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
> >>>>>>>> registrant
> >>>>>>>> > put down their address as
> >>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
> >>>>>>>> > California 12345
> >>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information there,
> >>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
> >>>>>>>> > Fair Warning Disclaimer: Attempt the Following at your own risk, i
> >>>>>>>> > don't endorse this.
> >>>>>>>> > Once you install the thing, it actually works, not like the
> >>>>>>>> original,
> >>>>>>>> > but someone has taken a serious stab at trying to recreate the
> >>>>>>>> > original Lively
> >>>>>>>> > Yes, the room called Embers Again is actually mine, its what i was
> >>>>>>>> > using to check out what the hell this is all about.
> When I was in newLively yesterday, there was an avatar called
> dizziebanjo talking to liu, the project lead. Dizziebanjo mentioned
> that he was in the Google Lively trusted content developer program.
> Today he has posted about newLively on his blog at:
> On Jan 2, 3:25 am, "Kevin Houlihan" <kjhouli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer
> questions
> > on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
> > multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that. He's also
> > surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what they've
> > done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations of
> lively
> > objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may make it
> > less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense of
> humour,
> > so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
> > On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in gtalk if
> > anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested setting up
> > something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask questions
> in a
> > way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be something we
> > could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
> > That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't believe
> I
> > forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
> > --
> > random
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find
> on
> > > the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was
> the
> > > project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working continuously
> for
> > > the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in
> getting
> > > in touch with other Livelyzens.
> > > Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been
> changed,
> > > it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
> > > Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
> > > Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
> > > after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the
> legitimacy
> > > of the operation.
> > > Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with young
> > > man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my
> questions
> > > to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days or
> weeks
> > > to come (among them were the financing mode of the
> > > operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had
> copied
> > > the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being
> able to
> > > play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of view)
> they
> > > are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for
> Macintosh
> > > and Linux! Wooohooo!
> > > In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
> > > still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and balloons
> were
> > > visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving
> around
> > > is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the
> impression
> > > that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly intend
> to
> > > keep an eye on this development.
> > > Happy this year!
> > > oriste
> > > On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
> > > It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
> > > browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser
> on
> > > it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to the
> > > browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08
> or so.
> > > Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on their
> > > website.
> > > I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for
> privacy.
> > > It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> > > *puts away shovel*
> > > --
> > > random
> > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> > >> morelively.com
> > >> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was
> created
> > >> back in July and the address is located in China.
> > >> Just sharing what I found.
> > >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > >>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy
> who
> > >>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as
> well as
> > >>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
> > >>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do
> not
> > >>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
> > >>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other
> accounts in
> > >>> this site.
> > >>> ~Kos
> > >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
> > >>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE
> address.
> > >>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent.
> the phone
> > >>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a
> Google
> > >>>> sponsored reprieve.
> > >>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and
> asked
> > >>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your
> antivirus
> > >>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come
> forward
> > >>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
> > >>>> Best of luck,
> > >>>> Matt Dodson
> > >>>> the rest of the hi
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say.
> Never
> > >>>>> hurts right?
> > >>>>> Imajika
> > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > >>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should
> we
> > >>>>>> contact them?
> > >>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> This is good news!
> > >>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
> > >>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
> > >>>>>>> <33A.gif>
> > >>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from Livelyzens
> > >>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help
> them.
> > >>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
> > >>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
> > >>>>>>> Best regards:
> > >>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
> > >>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
> > >>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies
> have
> > >>>>>>>> put into it.
> > >>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
> > >>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
> > >>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go all
> out
> > >>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
> > >>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
> > >>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR
> world!
> > >>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
> > >>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
> > >>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
> > >>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits
> through
> > >>>>>>>> installing it
> > >>>>>>>> By the way...it works pretty fast!
> > >>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2:51 pm, RavenStorm <RavenStorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> > He//o folks,
> > >>>>>>>> > Yup, its real...I'm not sure where i first saw the link, on
> the
> > >>>>>>>> Google
> > >>>>>>>> > Lively Help groups i think.
> > >>>>>>>> > It smelled bad, smelled fishy, so i did the "Whois" and the
> > >>>>>>>> registrant
> > >>>>>>>> > put down their address as
> > >>>>>>>> > 1800 Amphiteater Way
> > >>>>>>>> > California 12345
> > >>>>>>>> > so a little bit of screwy / clearly inaccurate information
> there,
> > >>>>>>>> > which adds to the smell factor, BUT
Hi guys, Ive been chatting with liu about his team and their objectives.
They are clearly working on the fact it so buggy right now,an developing the
avatars more! But he posed the question about what games we as homeless
Lively bods would like to see introduced to such a site.....
>> When I was in newLively yesterday, there was an avatar called
>> dizziebanjo talking to liu, the project lead. Dizziebanjo mentioned
>> that he was in the Google Lively trusted content developer program.
>> Today he has posted about newLively on his blog at:
>> On Jan 2, 3:25 am, "Kevin Houlihan" <kjhouli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer
>> questions
>> > on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
>> > multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that. He's
>> also
>> > surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what
>> they've
>> > done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations of
>> lively
>> > objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may make
>> it
>> > less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense of
>> humour,
>> > so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
>> > On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in gtalk
>> if
>> > anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested setting up
>> > something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask questions
>> in a
>> > way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be something we
>> > could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
>> > That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't
>> believe I
>> > forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
>> > --
>> > random
>> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find
>> on
>> > > the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was
>> the
>> > > project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working continuously
>> for
>> > > the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in
>> getting
>> > > in touch with other Livelyzens.
>> > > Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been
>> changed,
>> > > it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
>> > > Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
>> > > Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
>> > > after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the
>> legitimacy
>> > > of the operation.
>> > > Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with
>> young
>> > > man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my
>> questions
>> > > to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days or
>> weeks
>> > > to come (among them were the financing mode of the
>> > > operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had
>> copied
>> > > the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being
>> able to
>> > > play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of view)
>> they
>> > > are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for
>> Macintosh
>> > > and Linux! Wooohooo!
>> > > In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing (all
>> > > still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and
>> balloons were
>> > > visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving
>> around
>> > > is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the
>> impression
>> > > that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly
>> intend to
>> > > keep an eye on this development.
>> > > Happy this year!
>> > > oriste
>> > > On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
>> > > It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a web
>> > > browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the browser
>> on
>> > > it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to
>> the
>> > > browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08
>> or so.
>> > > Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on
>> their
>> > > website.
>> > > I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for
>> privacy.
>> > > It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
>> > > *puts away shovel*
>> > > --
>> > > random
>> > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> The guy who created it has another website registered called
>> > >> morelively.com
>> > >> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was
>> created
>> > >> back in July and the address is located in China.
>> > >> Just sharing what I found.
>> > >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> > >>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy
>> who
>> > >>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as
>> well as
>> > >>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>> > >>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do
>> not
>> > >>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>> > >>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other
>> accounts in
>> > >>> this site.
>> > >>> ~Kos
>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>> > >>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE
>> address.
>> > >>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent.
>> the phone
>> > >>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a
>> Google
>> > >>>> sponsored reprieve.
>> > >>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and
>> asked
>> > >>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your
>> antivirus
>> > >>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come
>> forward
>> > >>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>> > >>>> Best of luck,
>> > >>>> Matt Dodson
>> > >>>> the rest of the hi
>> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say.
>> Never
>> > >>>>> hurts right?
>> > >>>>> Imajika
>> > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <
>> jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should
>> we
>> > >>>>>> contact them?
>> > >>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>> This is good news!
>> > >>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
>> > >>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear avatar
>> > >>>>>>> <33A.gif>
>> > >>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from
>> Livelyzens
>> > >>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help
>> them.
>> > >>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to help
>> > >>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
>> > >>>>>>> Best regards:
>> > >>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>> > >>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>> > >>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that somebodies
>> have
>> > >>>>>>>> put into it.
>> > >>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>> > >>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
>> > >>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to go
>> all out
>> > >>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
>> > >>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
>> > >>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other VR
>> world!
>> > >>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
>> > >>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
>> > >>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
>> > >>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to bits
>> through
> Hi guys, Ive been chatting with liu about his team and their
> objectives. They are clearly working on the fact it so buggy right
> now,an developing the avatars more! But he posed the question about
> what games we as homeless Lively bods would like to see introduced
> to such a site.....
> When I was in newLively yesterday, there was an avatar called
> dizziebanjo talking to liu, the project lead. Dizziebanjo mentioned
> that he was in the Google Lively trusted content developer program.
> Today he has posted about newLively on his blog at:
> http://dizzybanjo.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/an-afterlife-for-google-li...
> On Jan 2, 3:25 am, "Kevin Houlihan" <kjhouli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer
> questions
> > on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
> > multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that.
> He's also
> > surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what
> they've
> > done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations
> of lively
> > objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may
> make it
> > less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense
> of humour,
> > so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
> > On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in
> gtalk if
> > anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested
> setting up
> > something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask
> questions in a
> > way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be
> something we
> > could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
> > That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't
> believe I
> > forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
> > --
> > random
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll
> find on
> > > the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me
> he was the
> > > project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working
> continuously for
> > > the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested
> in getting
> > > in touch with other Livelyzens.
> > > Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been
> changed,
> > > it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
> > > Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
> > > Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
> > > after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the
> legitimacy
> > > of the operation.
> > > Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk
> with young
> > > man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my
> questions
> > > to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the
> days or weeks
> > > to come (among them were the financing mode of the
> > > operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they
> had copied
> > > the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games
> being able to
> > > play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of
> view) they
> > > are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for
> Macintosh
> > > and Linux! Wooohooo!
> > > In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some
> clothing (all
> > > still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and
> balloons were
> > > visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser).
> Moving around
> > > is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have
> the impression
> > > that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly
> intend to
> > > keep an eye on this development.
> > > Happy this year!
> > > oriste
> > > On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
> > > It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is
> a web
> > > browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the
> browser on
> > > it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in
> to the
> > > browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since
> January 08 or so.
> > > Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff
> on their
> > > website.
> > > I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern
> for privacy.
> > > It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
> > > *puts away shovel*
> > > --
> > > random
> > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> The guy who created it has another website registered called
> > >> morelively.com
> > >> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it
> was created
> > >> back in July and the address is located in China.
> > >> Just sharing what I found.
> > >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru
> <kosmikg...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however
> the guy who
> > >>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form
> as well as
> > >>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
> > >>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I
> personally do not
> > >>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best
> that all
> > >>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other
> accounts in
> > >>> this site.
> > >>> ~Kos
> > >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
> > >>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE
> address.
> > >>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is
> nonexistent. the phone
> > >>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT
> a Google
> > >>>> sponsored reprieve.
> > >>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group
> and asked
> > >>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update
> your antivirus
> > >>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner
> come forward
> > >>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
> > >>>> Best of luck,
> > >>>> Matt Dodson
> > >>>> the rest of the hi
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they
> say. Never
> > >>>>> hurts right?
> > >>>>> Imajika
> > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes
> <jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif>
> Should we
> > >>>>>> contact them?
> > >>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> This is good news!
> > >>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
> > >>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear
> avatar
> > >>>>>>> <33A.gif>
> > >>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from
> Livelyzens
> > >>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can
> help them.
> > >>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want
> to help
> > >>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
> > >>>>>>> Best regards:
> > >>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
> > >>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
> > >>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that
> somebodies have
> > >>>>>>>> put into it.
> > >>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
> > >>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
> > >>>>>>>> Now which of us has the time, the AMBITION,the ability to
> go all out
> > >>>>>>>> to do such a thing.
> > >>>>>>>> Whoever is not doing it for fame and glory I think.
> > >>>>>>>> Someone this clever can have a great life in some other
> VR world!
> > >>>>>>>> Obviously it is an attempt to answer our prayers...
> > >>>>>>>> Sure I'm "brave" enough! There was nothing left anyway....
> > >>>>>>>> So THANKYOU Whoever.
> > >>>>>>>> Good luck with it, and I don't care if my PC falls to
> bits
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:04 PM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wanna play scrabble with naboo!
> oriste
> On 4 Jan, 2009, at 19:07, Cherry wrote:
> Hi guys, Ive been chatting with liu about his team and their objectives.
> They are clearly working on the fact it so buggy right now,an developing the
> avatars more! But he posed the question about what games we as homeless
> Lively bods would like to see introduced to such a site.....
> Just wondered what anyones feedback was....
> Cherry
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When I was in newLively yesterday, there was an avatar called
>>> dizziebanjo talking to liu, the project lead. Dizziebanjo mentioned
>>> that he was in the Google Lively trusted content developer program.
>>> Today he has posted about newLively on his blog at:
>>> On Jan 2, 3:25 am, "Kevin Houlihan" <kjhouli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I met him in lively today as well. He was very relucant to answer
>>> questions
>>> > on the currency system hinted at in the EULA, even after being asked
>>> > multiple times by me and others what their plans were for that. He's
>>> also
>>> > surprisingly unconcerned about the potential legal issues of what
>>> they've
>>> > done. He did confirm though that all the objects are recreations of
>>> lively
>>> > objects rather than being converted from googles files, which may make
>>> it
>>> > less of an issue? He seems genuine enough though, and has a sense of
>>> humour,
>>> > so I think we'll get answers soon enough.
>>> > On that note, he said he'll answer questions by email or even in gtalk
>>> if
>>> > anyone wants to contact him that way. Emma Goldman suggested setting up
>>> > something on livelyzens.com or newlively.com where we can ask
>>> questions in a
>>> > way that everyone gets to see the answers, so that might be something
>>> we
>>> > could do if he doesn't take the initiative himself.
>>> > That's awesome that they're working on a linux version... I can't
>>> believe I
>>> > forgot to ask that! I've been on windows toooo long...
>>> > --
>>> > random
>>> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, oriste <ori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > Yesterday I had a pleasant chat with Liuyichang (the name you'll find
>>> on
>>> > > the domain registration, aka "liuyc" in newlively) who told me he was
>>> the
>>> > > project lead of a team of about 10, who have been working
>>> continuously for
>>> > > the last month to bring us this technology. He's very interested in
>>> getting
>>> > > in touch with other Livelyzens.
>>> > > Btw, the address information in the domain registry has now been
>>> changed,
>>> > > it was meant as a joke, and now reads:
>>> > > Not in Amphitheatre Parkway
>>> > > Not in Mountain View CA 12345,CA,US 9606
>>> > > after i mentioned to him that it caused some people to doubt the
>>> legitimacy
>>> > > of the operation.
>>> > > Liu appears as an extremely friendly, open, pleasant to talk with
>>> young
>>> > > man. There was the usual language barrier that caused some of my
>>> questions
>>> > > to go unanswered, but i'm sure those will be cleared up in the days
>>> or weeks
>>> > > to come (among them were the financing mode of the
>>> > > operation, monetizing plans and his take on the fact that they had
>>> copied
>>> > > the room skeletons from Lively). They do have plans for games being
>>> able to
>>> > > play in a room. And, more importantly (at least from my point of
>>> view) they
>>> > > are working (mind you, *working*, not planning) on a version for
>>> Macintosh
>>> > > and Linux! Wooohooo!
>>> > > In newlively I finally managed to change my avatar, some clothing
>>> (all
>>> > > still limited in choice at this stage), and the text input and
>>> balloons were
>>> > > visible too for a change (after some restarts of the browser). Moving
>>> around
>>> > > is still jerky and animations are not yet implemented. I have the
>>> impression
>>> > > that the system is updated on a continuous schedule. I certainly
>>> intend to
>>> > > keep an eye on this development.
>>> > > Happy this year!
>>> > > oriste
>>> > > On 1 Jan, 2009, at 18:53, Kevin Houlihan wrote:
>>> > > It looks like the fishy software we've all downloaded and run is a
>>> web
>>> > > browser with vrml and jabber support built in. You can run the
>>> browser on
>>> > > it's own and use it to view any web page, but you have to log in to
>>> the
>>> > > browser! Quite bizarre. It seems to have been around since January 08
>>> or so.
>>> > > Newlively is just content it can view like the games and stuff on
>>> their
>>> > > website.
>>> > > Links!:
>>> > > Their website & a translation:
>>> > >http://cc6.com/
>>> > > I'm not sure a fake address indicates any more than a concern for
>>> privacy.
>>> > > It looks quite innocent to me, almost like a publicity stunt.
>>> > > *puts away shovel*
>>> > > --
>>> > > random
>>> > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ciby <ciby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> The guy who created it has another website registered called
>>> > >> morelively.com
>>> > >> which is linked to newlively.com. According to it's whois, it was
>>> created
>>> > >> back in July and the address is located in China.
>>> > >> Just sharing what I found.
>>> > >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM, KosmiK Guru <kosmikg...@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> > >>> This certainly does not legit or google sponsored - however the guy
>>> who
>>> > >>> created this did contact our group through our contact us form as
>>> well as
>>> > >>> spoke to some livelyzens in some Lively rooms.
>>> > >>> Overall, while what he did is not legally correct, I personally do
>>> not
>>> > >>> think this is phishing or spyware....in anycase it is best that all
>>> > >>> livelyzens do not use passwords that you may use on your other
>>> accounts in
>>> > >>> this site.
>>> > >>> ~Kos
>>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Matt Dodson <
>>> > >>> MattDodson.SpaceCa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>> There is something fishy here folks... the whois lists a FAKE
>>> address.
>>> > >>>> Google HQ is 1600 Amphitheater... not 1800. 1800 is nonexistent.
>>> the phone
>>> > >>>> number is incomplete, and the zip code is wrong. So this NOT a
>>> Google
>>> > >>>> sponsored reprieve.
>>> > >>>> If this was legit. the owner would have contacted this group and
>>> asked
>>> > >>>> for our support. I suggest you stay off the site and update your
>>> antivirus
>>> > >>>> and anti spyware countermeasures. Until and unless the owner come
>>> forward
>>> > >>>> and expalins themselves and their plan.
>>> > >>>> Best of luck,
>>> > >>>> Matt Dodson
>>> > >>>> the rest of the hi
>>> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Imajika <imaj...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>> Well...I say go ahead and contact them and see what they say.
>>> Never
>>> > >>>>> hurts right?
>>> > >>>>> Imajika
>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Digranes <
>>> jee...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > >>>>>> I have found the owner information to newlively.<360.gif> Should
>>> we
>>> > >>>>>> contact them?
>>> > >>>>>> 2008/12/30 Thomas Digranes <jee...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>>>>> This is good news!
>>> > >>>>>>> I tried it! and I liked it.<360.gif>
>>> > >>>>>>> It is similar, but different, but I can not find the bear
>>> avatar
>>> > >>>>>>> <33A.gif>
>>> > >>>>>>> But who are the producers of this? there are some from
>>> Livelyzens
>>> > >>>>>>> group? I would like to be with. If there is any way I can help
>>> them.
>>> > >>>>>>> If they need web servers, or similar, hosting. So I want to
>>> help
>>> > >>>>>>> them. I own a web server company.
>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards:
>>> > >>>>>>> The Gooble Bear form Norway
>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes I tried it too....hmm
>>> > >>>>>>>> I am impressed with the dreadful amount of work that
>>> somebodies have
>>> > >>>>>>>> put into it.
>>> > >>>>>>>> Many late nights and rushed R/L activities.
>>> > >>>>>>>> A creation date I noticed on object is Dec.24th.
As for me, I'm not interested in playing games; what is important to me, is what we had on lively: pretty, funny avs, good animations, lots of stuff to choose from to build rooms and to customize avs, and lots of good shells. I find online games extremely boring.
Hey Liu...just give us what we had on lively! Thanks!
From: Cherry
Date: 04/01/2009 18.07.25
To: livelyzens@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Livelyzens] Re: A miracle
Hi guys, Ive been chatting with liu about his team and their objectives. They are clearly working on the fact it so buggy right now,an developing the avatars more! But he posed the question about what games we as homeless Lively bods would like to see introduced to such a site.....
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