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Lively Little Helper Google employee  
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(8 users)  More options Jul 11 2008, 4:06 pm
From: Lively Little Helper
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 4:06 pm
Subject: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Hi all -

We ran into a snag with the photo gadget, and have currently removed
it for maintenance. Hopefully it'll be back up soon.

Thanks for your patience while we work on a fix.

Robin


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chowzer  
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(4 users)  More options Jul 11 2008, 9:25 pm
From: chowzer
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:25:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Is this the official word from Google? Robin, are you working for
Google?

Just clarifying this as I'm happy to hear that its just a snag, as my
photo gadgets have stopped working and I came in here looking for an
answer...

Cheers

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From: bobudo
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:50:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Ok good. I was worried as well. I love those photo gadgets. Any word
on if the photo linking data was saved?

Thanks for the update. I find lively to be very exciting,

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Roxanne R.  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 12 2008, 4:52 am
From: Roxanne R.
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 4:52 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Good, good. I noticed they seemed a little buggy before. They didn't
resize images properly and such. Glad they're being given some
love! :D

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Emmson  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 12 2008, 7:00 am
From: Emmson
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 7:00 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Yes chowzer, Robin is an official. You can see it by the blue Google
sign next to his name.

I spend the whole day yesterday to decorate my room with lots of
photos and really was shocked when the frames turned into deep
blackness...

I agree with Roxanne, the poor quality and strange cut and resize
thing is really annoying! I received the best results by resizing
photos to 65x65px - which is less than nothing. I hope Google takes it
seriously.

Funny, I was talking to a girl from Linden Lab yesterday (in a Lively
room) and told her about the poor photo quality. First she was crying
but then she couldn't stop laughing :)

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dididunga  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 12 2008, 8:50 am
From: dididunga
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 8:50 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Any idea yet how long it will take?

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Emmson  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 12 2008, 11:12 am
From: Emmson
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
No dididunga, nobody knows.

i hope it won't take long...

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Balmung  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 12 2008, 3:42 pm
From: Balmung
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Me too, i will use my Chat Room for the E3 next Monday and i need lots
of Pictures (>30) for this.

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Bassman  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 13 2008, 5:13 pm
From: Bassman
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:13:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
I hear you - I spent beacoup time getting the photos up and on the
walls - only to see a whole-lotta BLACK NOTHINGS up there . . . Glad
it's only temporary :)

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Balmung  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 14 2008, 5:29 am
From: Balmung
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 14 2008 5:29 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
But the Question is: how long is "temporarly"? At the moment the
Photos are deaktivated for 2 1/2 Days and i need the Photos in 6 Hours
for my E3 Room.

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From: Rastus.Oxide
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 14 2008 5:39 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
please fix :(

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 More options Jul 14 2008, 7:39 am
From: dididunga
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
I wonder what exactly the 'snag' was. There didn't seem to be anything
wrong with it (apart from the weird cropping thing) and if it was
that, surely it would be easy to solve.

Hope this is back very soon now as I lose interest in lively without
it.

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Philipp Lenssen  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 14 2008, 7:49 am
From: Philipp Lenssen
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working

> I wonder what exactly the 'snag' was

Yeah, makes you wish Google would communicate these things more openly
in this group. Is it due to adult rooms, or due to the cropping bug,
or a combination of the two, or something else entirely? And what
timing can we expect? Robin, we'd appreciate more info.

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From: anarkavre
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:00:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 14 2008 10:00 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
I have noticed lately that a lot of the explicit rooms have been gone
and hardly any have been on the first page of the Popular Rooms. I am
sure they are working hard to fix the gadgets problems, such as better
scaling. These things sometimes take much time to fix. If you aren't a
developer you have to understand the process of developing such things
and fixing the various problems. Just have patience and give them
time. I feel they are very dedicated to this project and hopefully we
will hear more news from the Google representatives soon. I have much
faith in this project and find it quite fun.

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(1 user)  More options Jul 15 2008, 6:36 am
From: kevlarturbo
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:36:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 6:36 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Any idea of  when this will be up and running  again??  It was one of
the only things that made the rooms interesting.  .

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From: Balmung
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
No. I give it up to hope that the photos come back soon. I need this
feature now for the E3 not in a few days...

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 More options Jul 15 2008, 11:14 am
From: BrettJackson
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
I see this is still broken :(

Any updates on roughly when it will be resolved? I created a room to
use in a lucid dreaming experiment and mentioned it in my blog and
website, unfortunately it's useless without this gadget.

Regards,
Brett.

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Philipp Lenssen  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 15 2008, 4:35 pm
From: Philipp Lenssen
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
(Here's something I posted earlier today at Blogoscoped.com.)

Asking Google some questions about the photo gadget problems they say:

"Regarding your question about the photo gadgets in Lively, I just
wanted to provide a little more background. As you know, Lively
launched in Google Labs, and we've noticed a few bugs in some of the
features, including the photo gadget. The team is aware of these
issues and is working to remedy them as quickly as possible."

I asked them a couple of follow-up questions, including if the fix
would be more like days or months to be delivered, and they say:

"I [can] tell you that the team is currently working on this, and we
will be turning the feature on again for users as soon as possible. We
don't expect this to be on the order of months."

(Still no word if this was in any relation to adult rooms, though.)


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Haas  
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From: Haas
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
dude it is a labs project give it some time and space and it will be
great.

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From: MaXsiM
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Thanks for the update Philipp!

Especially the last sentence "don't expect this to be on the order of
months" is very calming.

Those frames were full of bugs, it's obvious that they needed to be
fixed. Without them Lively has no professional potential. It's good
that they fix it directly and don't wait until everybody uses the
frames. It's only sad for us who had already decorated their rooms
with lots of nice photos and want to open the rooms for our website
visitors. But that's the way it is, time will tell...

I don't care if it's an "adult room" or any other problem, i just want
the frames to be online again ;)

See you in Lively, friends!

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From: The____Valerka
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 16 2008 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
The only reason why google disabled Photos is sex. They don't know how
to manage this, thousands and thousands of sex photos to check and
verify. Google doesn't want Lively to be associated with explicit sex,
thats it.
There is no way this is a tecnical problem, there are hundreds of bugs
and none of them is managed, why they should only manage this one (and
pictures worked perfectly in my room...)?

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 More options Jul 16 2008, 12:30 pm
From: dididunga
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working

>"Regarding your question about the photo gadgets in Lively, I just
>wanted to provide a little more background. As you know, Lively
>launched in Google Labs, and we've noticed a few bugs in some of the
>features, including the photo gadget. The team is aware of these
>issues and is working to remedy them as quickly as possible."

That does not provide any more background at all though, just
replaced
the word 'snag' with 'bugs'.
But I'm not all that interested in what the problem was anyway, I
just
wanna roughly know when it will be up and running again!

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From: Philipp Lenssen
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:46:56 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working

> There is no way this is a tecnical problem, there are
> hundreds of bugs and none of them is managed, why
> they should only manage this one

While I too think it's possible it is related to the sex rooms
problems, there is something with the misplaced picture bug that is
different from some other bugs: decorators may have started to resize
and crop their pics to *cater* for Google's bug (I had to put pics
into an odd pic template to get it to work), thereby creating a data
problem in the long run and not just a feature problem. (I.e. the
later Google fixes this, the more wrongly prepared pics people
reference.)

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From: Varkentje
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 16 2008 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Well, I can't proove anything but I'm pretty sure Google can
find&destroy sex-images with algoritms. But does Google want to? I
guess they rather spend  cpu-time on Adwords. Ask the shareholders, if
you want to be sure. Also  no way making rooms secure for kids and
normal people. That only might work  with personal accounts and much
moderating. I dont see Google do that. Therefor I think this might be
a time waster. SecondLife was better, if morons, porn and gambling
didn't kill it.

I guess humans are just not fit for VR ..


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From: Hustler
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Picasa/Photo Gadget Not Working
Lively is in BETA. Don't complain (yet) at new products that just came
out. Give it time to develope.

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