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j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:30:02 AM11/8/12
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Over the last few days I have tried to set up using uefi gpt and grub2. After many hours of frustration I have gone back to grub legacy and mbr.

I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and several other sources of which I failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I booted from a uefi enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this ready for mainstream or
still alpha like?

Also does ufibootmgr change motherboard firmware? Somehow this feels
wrong if the case.

John D Maunder

Randolph Maaßen

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:00:02 AM11/8/12
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Hi, 

I tried installing UEFI GPT too a few months ago, but I had a semi success. After some days of fiddeling around with parameters and variables I could boot the system, but I can't see the kernel output or open-rc. But the X loads and the system works after that like normal, but without the textual ttys. terminal emulations like xterm or so work. So I would install it again, but it isn't as easy as thought.


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微蔡

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Nov 9, 2012, 7:20:01 PM11/9/12
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On Thursday 08 November 2012 13:53:22 Randolph Maaßen wrote:
> 2012/11/8 <j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk>
>
> > Over the last few days I have tried to set up using uefi gpt and
grub2.
> > After many hours of frustration I have gone back to grub legacy
and mbr.
> >
> > I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and several other
sources of
> > which I failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I
booted
> > from a uefi enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this ready for
> > mainstream or
> >
> > still alpha like?
> >
> > Also does ufibootmgr change motherboard firmware? Somehow
this feels
> > wrong if the case.
> >
> > John D Maunder
>
> Hi,
>
> I tried installing UEFI GPT too a few months ago, but I had a semi
success.
> After some days of fiddeling around with parameters and variables I
could
> boot the system, but I can't see the kernel output or open-rc. But the
X

built-in efifb and add video=efifb to kernel command line.


> loads and the system works after that like normal, but without the
textual
> ttys. terminal emulations like xterm or so work. So I would install it
> again, but it isn't as easy as thought.
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Randolph Maaßen

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Nov 10, 2012, 3:40:02 AM11/10/12
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2012/11/9 微蔡 <micr...@fedoraproject.org>
Thanks for the advise, I'll try it when I'm back at the machine next week
 

> loads and the system works after that like normal, but without the
textual
> ttys. terminal emulations like xterm or so work. So I would install it
> again, but it isn't as easy as thought.
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Keith Dart

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Nov 14, 2012, 12:30:01 AM11/14/12
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Re , j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said:
> I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and several other sources
> of which I failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I
> booted from a uefi enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this
> ready for mainstream or still alpha like?


FWIW I hate grub2. ;)

I'm a big fan syslinux/extlinux.

But recent Linux kernels can be compiled as UEFI apps, thus don't need
a boot loader (e.g. grub2) at all (in theory).


-- Keith


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john

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Nov 14, 2012, 4:20:01 PM11/14/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:21:23 -0800
Keith Dart <ke...@dartworks.biz> wrote:

> Re , j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said:
> > I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and several other sources
> > of which I failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I
> > booted from a uefi enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this
> > ready for mainstream or still alpha like?
>
>
> FWIW I hate grub2. ;)
>
> I'm a big fan syslinux/extlinux.
>
> But recent Linux kernels can be compiled as UEFI apps, thus don't need
> a boot loader (e.g. grub2) at all (in theory).
>
>
> -- Keith
>
>

Hmmm agree with the grub2 thing. Seems overly complicated just to get
an OS running. But maybe there are good reasons for it. I'm no expert
understanding boot loaders though.

UEFI apps sounds interesting. I'll have a look into it. But I dual boot
with Windows so maybe forced to use grub2 or such like.

Does syslinux work with uefi/gpt?

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John D Maunder

Jorge Almeida

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Nov 14, 2012, 5:00:02 PM11/14/12
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, john <j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Does syslinux work with uefi/gpt?
>
Currently, not with uefi MO, it seems. But it works fine with gpt
partitioning on MBR motherboards. Just follow the Arch Linux WiKi. No
reason to submit to the grub2 silliness :)

Jorge Almeida
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