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Mick

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:10:03 AM11/22/09
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Hi All,

I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for gnome-
mplayer. I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also access the
stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.

With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access directly
- mplayer won't play it. The embedded video is always at maximum size filling
up the browser window and at poor quality videos the picture deteriorates. On
top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit clunky with regards to its controls (I
can't just drag the cursor to watch a previous point in the video as smoothly
as I could with mplayerplug-in). Is there a better alternative, more akin to
the mplayerplug-in?
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Mick

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Dale

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:50:01 AM11/22/09
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If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
those videos really easy. It works on youtube and other sites really well.

Dale

:-) :-)

Mick

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:20:03 AM11/22/09
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Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they don't use
the gnome-mplayer.
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Mick

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Dale

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:50:02 AM11/22/09
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There may be a misunderstanding on this. With the download helper, you
go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp
or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever
you want to save it. If you don't like the file format that it is in,
it will convert it for you too.

Just as a example, I go to youtube and find a neat Jeff Dunham video. I
click for it to start playing the video as usual. Once it starts to
play, I click on the little download button and then tell it to save it
to my directory for videos. From that point on, I can play the video
using mplayer or what ever. I currently use smplayer myself.

I also noticed recently, it works with flash videos too. I don't know
if it did this all the time or if it just started but it is nice
especially since some videos get taken down sometimes. If it is on my
system, I have it even if it gets removed later.

The misunderstanding may be on my part. Maybe I don't quite get what
you are doing.

Dale

:-) :-)

Mick

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:50:01 AM11/22/09
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On Sunday 22 November 2009 12:47:57 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
> >> Mick wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
> >>> gnome- mplayer. I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also
> >>> access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.
> >>>
> >>> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
> >>> directly - mplayer won't play it. The embedded video is always at
> >>> maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos
> >>> the picture deteriorates. On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit
> >>> clunky with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to
> >>> watch a previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with
> >>> mplayerplug-in). Is there a better alternative, more akin to the
> >>> mplayerplug-in?
> >>
> >> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> >> those videos really easy. It works on youtube and other sites really
> >> well.
> >
> > Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they
> > don't use the gnome-mplayer.

I think this is a mistake on my part: gnome-mplayer seems to be a dependency
of gecko-mediaplayer.

> There may be a misunderstanding on this. With the download helper, you
> go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp
> or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever
> you want to save it. If you don't like the file format that it is in,
> it will convert it for you too.

Sure, but from what I figured this FF addon is only good for Flash embedded
videos. I assume (because I can't download it right now) that it won't work
with e.g.:

http://www.amd.com/us-
en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv

> Just as a example, I go to youtube and find a neat Jeff Dunham video.

YouTube and the likes use Adobe Flash to stream content.

> The misunderstanding may be on my part. Maybe I don't quite get what
> you are doing.

I don't really like the gnome-mplayer interface which is used by the gecko-
mediaplayer plugin. I was looking for alternative plugins, but I suspect that
there aren't any.

Anyway, not a major issue.
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Mick

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Dale

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:10:03 AM11/22/09
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I went to that link and downloaded the video with no problem at all.
Once it started to playing, I hit the download button and saved it to my
desktop. It plays fine with splayer which uses mplayer as the back
end. It even converted it to a mp4 for me.

Dale

:-) :-)

Daniel Pielmeier

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:20:04 PM11/22/09
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Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
> http://www.amd.com/us-
> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>

Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.

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Mick

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:20:02 PM11/22/09
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Hmm ... sounds promising. Tried to download it but there was a problem - will
try again later.

Thanks.
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Mick

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:20:02 PM11/22/09
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Yes, thank you. I've installed it now and it looks neat.

Any luck with Apple Trailers? It doesn't ask me where to save the download.
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Mick

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Dale

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:20:01 PM11/22/09
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Just to clarify a little, you install Firefox and then install the add
on from here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

Maybe reading that link will help more than me typing. ;-) So far, I
have been able to capture any video from any site that I wanted to.

Dale

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Daniel Pielmeier

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:20:02 PM11/22/09
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I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
Download-helper seems to have problems though.

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Mick

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:10:02 AM11/23/09
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2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <bil...@gentoo.org>:

Hmm ... I can't. FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
seems to be the default player. Where do I change that?

> Download-helper seems to have problems though.

Here download-helper fetches a "medialink" file which contains just this:

ID_EXIT=EOF

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Mick

Helmut Jarausch

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:30:02 AM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov, Mick wrote:
> 2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <bil...@gentoo.org>:
>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 20:02:
>>> On Sunday 22 November 2009 17:27:26 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
>>>>> http://www.amd.com/us-
>>>>> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>>>> Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.
>>>
>>> Yes, thank you. �I've installed it now and it looks neat.
>>>
>>> Any luck with Apple Trailers? �It doesn't ask me where to save the download.
>>
>> I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
>> movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
>> in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
>
> Hmm ... I can't. FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
> seems to be the default player. Where do I change that?
>

See
http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions

Helmut.

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RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Mick

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:10:02 PM11/23/09
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2009/11/23 Helmut Jarausch <jara...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>:

> On 23 Nov, Mick wrote:
>> 2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <bil...@gentoo.org>:

>>> I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the


>>> movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
>>> in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
>>
>> Hmm ... I can't.  FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
>> seems to be the default player.  Where do I change that?
>>
>
> See
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions

Thanks Helmut,

Unfortunately it didn't help. I reset the download actions to their
defaults, but gxine still tries to run the video URL and fails (no
codex). What do you have under:

~/.firefox/plugins/

or

~/.mozilla/plugins/

This is mine:

$ ls -la .mozilla/plugins/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 michael users 112 Jan 8 2006 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 michael users 176 Dec 27 2008 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 michael users 29 Mar 26 2006 gxineplugin.so ->
/usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 michael users 44 Mar 26 2006 libnpsoplugin.so ->
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libnpsoplugin.so

When I disable the 'gxine starter plugin' under Tools/Addons/Plugins
then all I get is a blank page.

In the page about:plugins, gxineplugin is above gecko-mediaplayer-qt
and I suspect this is why it is being picked up first. What's it like
in yours?
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Mick

Maxim Wexler

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:20:01 PM11/23/09
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> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> those videos really easy. It works on youtube and other sites really well.

I'm using it but can only download from a link to youtube in another
web page or google, for example. Shouldn't there be a button on
Youtube itself, once the 'downloiad helper' is installed that lets you
download from the actual Youtube site? I've looked through
Tools->Download Helper->Preferences without seeing any option for it.

Maxim

Dale

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:20:03 PM11/23/09
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Mine is in the toolbar by default. It is just to the left of the
location bar and looks like three balls rotating. I'm not sure if they
rotate all the time or not but I know it does when in the middle of a
download. If you put your little mouse pointer on it, it shows it is
the download helper tool. When something is on the page that it knows
is a video, a little option for a drop down appears so that you can
select what to download. I know youtube sometimes has different
versions of a video, mostly different by quality. With that you can
select which quality you want. It is also handy when you have more than
one video on a page and only want one of them.

That help you find it? I found it by wondering what the little moving
balls where that wasn't there before I installed the little add ons.

Dale

:-) :-)

Maxim Wexler

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:20:02 PM11/23/09
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Got it. I clicked on the tri-color balls on the lower rt and it just
gave me a list of sites where downloads may be found. The balls also
appear above and to the left of the video window where the movie is
supposed to appear. When I clicked on it I got the save-as window. But
then I had to stop the browser and migrate away from the page on
account of my tiny bandwidth. But it works, very kewl :)
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