[gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati
drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i
moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my
1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati
> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.

they, have but X is broken.

> When i
> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D

they have. You are just using an old version.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
highlight-.html

[Helmut Jarausch]

I don't know the HD3850 card.

From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?

The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later,
as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to include
support for any products earlier than this.
Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI Project or Utah-GLX project.

Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
including googleearth.

But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
xorg-server-1.7.1

Helmut.

--
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

[Igor]

I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:

on the AMD homepage.

Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by
9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12

Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d.

[James]

Igor <igwasm <at> rambler.ru> writes:

> I would use kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.10 every now and then to check networks,
> IP address, or strength of signal when I would not use iwconfig or iwlist.
> This will be removed soon, so what is the KDE4 equivalent?

Great timing, as I need to revisit my wireless options and
strategies on several laptops.

One can always look at the options:
'ls /usr/portage/net-wireless'

but, it is nice when folks comment on what works well with
kde4, as that is my issue too.

http://gentoo-portage.com/net-wireless/
gives a great interface and let's you know a bit more info.

net-wireless/waveselect
looks promising?
Do post back what you end up using.....

hth,
James

[Helmut Jarausch]

That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after
having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed.
The you can find it under
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html

[igwasm]

What the patch? Give me more information, please.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helmut Jarausch" <jara...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

But i have very high cpu loads in 2D.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:

> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
>

I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
there.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
> To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> >> ati
> >> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> >> When i
> >> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-

> >asc- highlight-.html

>
> What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
>

is correct link.

Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and nvidia
drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge.
Just read the thread.

[igwasm]

Thank you much. Link correct. ^)

[igwasm]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
> To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> >> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
> >
> > I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
> > there.
>
> But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
>

wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'?

just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you are
done.

[igwasm]

Very fun. ^)

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
написал:

I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
/usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No matches
found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package
atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:

> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-

> >as c- highlight-.html

>
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>

eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde

> > >r- as c- highlight-.html

> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> > valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>
> eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> is not a valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>

what are you doing with eix?
(besides, is eix setup correctly? check eixrc)

and emerge see the other mail.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-

> >as c- highlight-.html

>
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>

and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?

try
emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann

написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde

> > >r- as c- highlight-.html

> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> > valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>
> and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
>
> try
> emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
>

I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage
and unpack files.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > acceleration.
> > > >
> > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > >
> > > > > When i
> > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > > >
> > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postor

> > > >de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > >
> > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > > matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> > > valid package atom.
> > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >
> > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >
> > try
> > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
>
> I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage
> and unpack files.
>

yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
instructions.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann

написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > > acceleration.
> > > > >
> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i
> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > 3D
> > > > >
> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-post

> > > > >or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > >
> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > > > matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not
> > > > a valid package atom.
> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > >
> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > >
> > > try
> > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >
> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
>
> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> instructions.
>

I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

[Mark Knecht]

Post back the results of

eix xorg-server

- Mark

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-

> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>

> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
>
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
> things have changed since the instructions were written.
>

the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can download
several different versions.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > > 3D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-po

> > > > > >st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > >
> > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > >
> > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > >
> > > > try
> > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > >
> > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >
> > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > instructions.
>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.

Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as things
have changed since the instructions were written.

--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:

> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-

> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>
> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
>
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
> things have changed since the instructions were written.
>

I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any version
in /usr/local/portage

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:07:07 автор Volker Armin Hemmann

написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-

> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
>
> the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
> Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can
> download several different versions.
>

Why? I unpack in /usr/local/portage

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:59:45 автор Mark Knecht написал:

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Igor <igw...@rambler.ru> wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> >> > Hemmann
> >> >
> >> > написал:
> >> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> >> > > > Hemmann
> >> > > >
> >> > > > написал:
> >> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> >> > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> >> > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > When i
> >> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> >> > > > > > not 3D
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-p

> >> > > > >ost or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> >> > > >
> >> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> >> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> >> > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> >> > > > is not a valid package atom.
> >> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >> > >
> >> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >> > >
> >> > > try
> >> > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >> >
> >> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> >> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >>
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>
> Post back the results of
>
> eix xorg-server
>
> - Mark
>

Available versions: 1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5 ~1.7.1
Installed versions: 1.6.3.901-r2

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-

> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
>
> I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> version in /usr/local/portage
>

just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about it.
It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann

> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> > version in /usr/local/portage
>
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
> it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
>

I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in make.conf.
Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from amd.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann

> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html

> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> > version in /usr/local/portage
>
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
> it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
>

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:

> > it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
>
> I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from
> amd.
>

and you are using WHICH driver?

if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
написал:

When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
opensource driver.

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> написал:

>> [...]

>> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
>> instructions.
>>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
than it needs to be. You can find an easier method of applying the
patch here:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html

This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.

Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.

[Alan McKinnon]

You didn't answer his question.

Tip: There's big capital letters in it.

Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this thread,
the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts around here
if you want help.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 09:33:56 автор Alan McKinnon написал:

I use ATI Catalyst™ 9.10 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
написал:

Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow
in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

indeed., except all xorg-server versions are covered in that thread ;)

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in
their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
> To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>

> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open
> source driver work fine.
>

that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volke...@googlemail.com>
To: <gento...@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t

[igwasm]

Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in
other distrs linux.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

look at the patch and google a bit. There has been a lot of talk about this.