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rs

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May 18, 2006, 4:50:10 PM5/18/06
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Hi,

Installed kdebase and x-window-system-core packages. However, "startx" results in the "could not open default font 'fixed';" error. According to the http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-a570197d15005a2c71cbb5e565114e2c04a573a3
it may be because "There is also a possibility that the [fontpath]/misc/fonts.alias file is missing."

On my system, I do not have "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias" file. In fact, it appears that there's no "fonts.alias" file installed anywhere:
# dpkg -S fonts.alias
dpkg: *fonts.alias* not found.

Any ideas? Thanks

------------------------------------------------------------------
# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
...
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed';
the X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s)
may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not
configured correctly.

People inexperienced with the X Window System should have either the
"x-window-system" or "x-window-system-core" packages installed.
# apt-get install x-window-system-core
# apt-get install x-window-system

Other useful commands to run include:
$ dpkg --status xserver-common
$ dpkg --status xfonts-base
$ zmore /usr/share/doc/x11-common/FAQ.gz

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Florian Kulzer

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On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 16:46:28 -0400, rs wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Installed kdebase and x-window-system-core packages. However, "startx" results in the "could not open default font 'fixed';" error. According to the http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-a570197d15005a2c71cbb5e565114e2c04a573a3
> it may be because "There is also a possibility that the [fontpath]/misc/fonts.alias file is missing."
>
> On my system, I do not have "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias" file. In fact, it appears that there's no "fonts.alias" file installed anywhere:
> # dpkg -S fonts.alias
> dpkg: *fonts.alias* not found.

The font paths have changed for Xorg 7.0; it's "/usr/share/fonts/X11/"
instead of "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/". The corresponding section of
your /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look something like this:

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
EndSection

(You might have different fonts there, but the first part of the paths
should be like in my example.)

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rs

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May 19, 2006, 5:30:24 AM5/19/06
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Hmm... I'm not sure. I do not have X11 directory in /usr/share/fonts/ at all.

# ll /usr/share/fonts/
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37 2006-05-17 20:29 fonts.cache-1
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-05-17 17:19 truetype
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-05-17 16:01 type1

I do have /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ though:

# ll /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/
total 88
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 28672 2006-05-18 15:21 100dpi
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 28672 2006-05-18 15:21 75dpi
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-05-18 16:07 encodings
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123 2006-05-17 20:29 fonts.cache-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2006-05-18 16:07 misc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-17 19:35 Speedo
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-18 15:21 Type1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-18 15:21 util

# ll /usr/lib/X11*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2006-05-17 20:28 /usr/lib/X11 -> ../X11R6/lib/X11


# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
## xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
## ...
Section "Files"
FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection
...

One strange thing I can spot right away is that I do not have the "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" directory (see above).

Any ideas? Thanks

--- On Fri 05/19, Florian Kulzer < flo...@molphys.leidenuniv.nl > wrote:

The font paths have changed for Xorg 7.0; it's "/usr/share/fonts/X11/"instead of "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/". The corresponding section ofyour /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look something like this:

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
EndSection

(You might have different fonts there, but the first part of the pathsshould be like in my example.)


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OK, you seem to have an older version of X installed; the font paths are
correct in that case. Maybe it will help to run as root

update-fonts-alias misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

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rs

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--- On Fri 05/19, Florian Kulzer < flo...@molphys.leidenuniv.nl > wrote:

> OK, you seem to have an older version of X installed; the font paths arecorrect
> in that case.

Yes, I'm trying to upgrade from stable to testing. I purged x-window-system-core and kdebase AND manually removed any leftover KDE and X files that I could find, it stil goes to the same place.

> Maybe it will help to run as root
> update-fonts-alias misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

# cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/
# /usr/sbin/update-fonts-alias misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

It runs, no errors, but I don't see fonts.alias file created anywhere. Running "startx" results in the same "could not open default font 'fixed'" error.

Thanks


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On Fri, 19 May 2006 05:20:17 -0400 (EDT)
"rs" <rusty...@myway.com> wrote:

[SNIP]

>
> # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> ## xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
> ## ...
> Section "Files"
> FontPath "unix/:7100" # local
> font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back
> on these FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> EndSection
> ...
>
> One strange thing I can spot right away is that I do not have the
> "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" directory (see above).
>
> Any ideas? Thanks
>

Change those FontPath values to '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc', etc.
^^^^^

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rs

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--- On Fri 05/19, Liam O'Toole < liam.p...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Change those FontPath values to '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc', etc.
> ^^^^^

Can you explain why you think this is going to help? The font path "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/..." seems to be valid, for there is a link pointing to the real location:

# ll /usr/lib/X11*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2006-05-17 20:28 /usr/lib/X11 -> ../X11R6/lib/X11


Thus, "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc".

Thanks


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On Fri, 19 May 2006 10:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
"rs" <rusty...@myway.com> wrote:

>
>
> --- On Fri 05/19, Liam O'Toole < liam.p...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Change those FontPath values to '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc',
> > etc. ^^^^^
>
> Can you explain why you think this is going to help? The font path
> "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/..." seems to be valid, for there is a link
> pointing to the real location:
>
> # ll /usr/lib/X11*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2006-05-17 20:28 /usr/lib/X11
> -> ../X11R6/lib/X11
>
>
> Thus, "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc".
>
> Thanks
>

You are quite right. My mistake.

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rs

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May 20, 2006, 11:00:10 AM5/20/06
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Debian / Testing

Could anyone, who has a working x-window-system-core package from debian testing, answer the following questions:

1) Do you have "fonts.alias" file anywhere on your system?
Run "dpkg -S fonts.alias" to find out.
If so, please specify where and cat the content of the file.

2) Do you have ".../CID" directory anywhere on your system?
# dpkg -S CID
If so, please specify where and cat the content of the directory.

3) Please cat the content of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or its "Files" section.

Thanks

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rs writes:
> 1) Do you have "fonts.alias" file anywhere on your system?

toncho/~ dpkg -S fonts.alias
sketch: /usr/share/doc/sketch/html/fonts.alias.gz

toncho/~ locate fonts.alias
/usr/share/doc/sketch/html/fonts.alias.gz
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-1/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-10/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-13/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-14/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-15/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-2/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-3/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-4/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-5/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-6/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-7/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-8/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/ISO-8859-9/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/KOI8-R/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/abiword-common.d/dirs/KOI8-U/fonts.alias
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/fonts.alias

> 2) Do you have ".../CID" directory anywhere on your system?

toncho/~ dpkg -S CID
x-ttcidfont-conf: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
toncho/~ locate CID
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID

> If so, please specify where and cat the content of the directory.

It's empty.

> 3) Please cat the content of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or its "Files" section.

Section "Files"


FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these

FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"

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rs

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That's insteresting.

I do NOT have any of the "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/.../fonts.alias" files or the "/usr/share/fonts/X11" directory. Not sure why I don't have them or how to fix that.

Just to make sure, you're running x-window-system-core version 6.9.0.dfsg-1.6 from testing, right?

Thanks

--- On Sat 05/20, John Hasler < jha...@debian.org > wrote:
...


toncho/~ locate fonts.alias
/usr/share/doc/sketch/html/fonts.alias.gz
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias

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On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 12:02:55 -0400, rs wrote:

[...]

> I do NOT have any of the "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/.../fonts.alias"
> files or the "/usr/share/fonts/X11" directory. Not sure why I don't
> have them or how to fix that.

I am grasping at straws now, but you could try (as root)

update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

Then try the update-font-aliases command again:

update-fonts-alias misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

(Note: Do not specify the full paths to the font directories for these
two commands; see also their manpages.)

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rs

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# update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

I tried it, it didn't work. I think you suggestion is valid though, but it appears that there's a problem with the way the x-window-system-core package is intalled on my system.

AFAIK, "update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi" will build fonts.alias files from the "/etc/X11/fonts/.../*.alias" files, e.g. "/etc/X11/fonts/100dpi/xfonts-100dpi.alias". The problem is I do not have ANY of
the "/etc/X11/fonts/.../*.alias" files on my system.

It looks like dpkg says during installation that "conffile extracted" but it's not there. Ran "fsck", just to be sure, the file system is clean. Strange.

Thanks for any clues

--------------------------------------------------------
## aptitude install x-window-system-core
...
...
D000100: process_archive ... found in xutils

D000100: process_archive ... found in xutils

Selecting previously deselected package xfonts-base.
Unpacking xfonts-base (from .../xfonts-base_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb) ...
D000200: process_archive conffile `/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias' in package xfonts-base - conff ?
D000200: oldconffsetflags `/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias' namenode 0x9494d6c flags 5
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/.' tmp=`/..dpkg-tmp' new=`/..dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject already exists
D000100: tarobject Directory exists
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/usr' tmp=`/usr.dpkg-tmp' new=`/usr.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject already exists
D000100: tarobject Directory exists
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/usr/X11R6' tmp=`/usr/X11R6.dpkg-tmp' new=`/usr/X11R6.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject already exists
D000100: tarobject Directory exists
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/usr/X11R6/lib' tmp=`/usr/X11R6/lib.dpkg-tmp' new=`/usr/X11R6/lib.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject already exists
D000100: tarobject Directory exists

...
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/etc/X11' tmp=`/etc/X11.dpkg-tmp' new=`/etc/X11.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject already exists
D000100: tarobject Directory exists
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/etc/X11/fonts' tmp=`/etc/X11/fonts.dpkg-tmp' new=`/etc/X11/fonts.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject nonexistent
D000100: tarobject Directory creating
D000100: tarobject new - no backup
D000100: tarobject done and installed
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc' tmp=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc.dpkg-tmp' new=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject nonexistent
D000100: tarobject Directory creating
D000100: tarobject new - no backup
D000100: tarobject done and installed
D000200: conffderef in=`etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias' current working=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias'
D000200: conffderef nonexistent
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias' tmp=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias.dpkg-tmp' new=`/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject nonexistent
D000100: tarobject NormalFile[01] open size=5737
D000200: tarobject conffile extracted
D000100: filesavespackage file `/.' package tcpd
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr' package tcpd
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/sbin' package tcpd
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in util-linux
D000100: filesavespackage ... is 3rd package
D000100: filesavespackage ... taken -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/sbin/tcpdchk' package tcpd
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in tcpd
D000100: filesavespackage ... not taken -- save !
D000100: filesavespackage file `/.' package libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr' package libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share' package libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share/perl5' package libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in debconf
D000100: filesavespackage ... is 3rd package
D000100: filesavespackage ... taken -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share/perl5/Text' package libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in libtext-wrapi18n-perl
D000100: filesavespackage ... not taken -- save !
D000100: filesavespackage file `/.' package debconf
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/etc' package debconf
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/etc/debconf.conf' package debconf
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in debconf
D000100: filesavespackage ... not taken -- save !
D000100: filesavespackage file `/.' package librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr' package librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share' package librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share/doc' package librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... in new archive -- no save
D000100: filesavespackage file `/usr/share/doc/librecode0' package librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... also in librecode0
D000100: filesavespackage ... not taken -- save !
D000100: filesavespackage file `/.' package xserver-common
...

--------------------------------------------------------
## ll /etc/X11/fonts/*
/etc/X11/fonts/100dpi:
total 0

/etc/X11/fonts/75dpi:
total 0

/etc/X11/fonts/misc:
total 0

/etc/X11/fonts/Type1:
total 0


--- On Sat 05/20, Florian Kulzer < flo...@molphys.leidenuniv.nl > wrote:
> I do NOT have any of the "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/.../fonts.alias"
> files or the "/usr/share/fonts/X11" directory. Not sure why I don't
> have them or how to fix that.

I am grasping at straws now, but you could try (as root)

update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

Then try the update-font-aliases command again:

update-fonts-alias misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi

(Note: Do not specify the full paths to the font directories for these
two commands; see also their manpages.)

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rs(rusty...@myway.com) is reported to have said:
>
>
> # update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi
>
> I tried it, it didn't work. I think you suggestion is valid though, but it appears that there's a problem with the way the x-window-system-core package is intalled on my system.
>
> AFAIK, "update-fonts-dir misc Type1 100dpi 75dpi" will build fonts.alias files from the "/etc/X11/fonts/.../*.alias" files, e.g. "/etc/X11/fonts/100dpi/xfonts-100dpi.alias". The problem is I do not have ANY of
> the "/etc/X11/fonts/.../*.alias" files on my system.
>
> It looks like dpkg says during installation that "conffile extracted" but it's not there. Ran "fsck", just to be sure, the file system is clean. Strange.

As you are running Testing, I don't think you even need
x-window-system-core.

Why?

apt-cache show x-window-system-core

x-window-system-core 1:7.0.19

[Quote]
Description: transitional package for Debian etch
This package is provided to smooth upgrades from Debian 3.1 ("sarge") to
Debian etch. It may be safely removed from your system. It depends on the
xorg package which is the new metapackage for installing the X Window
System in Debian.
[End Quote]

I no longer have it installed and am running etch.

hth

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--- On Sat 05/20, Wayne Topa < linu...@intergate.com > wrote:
> As you are running Testing, I don't think you even need
> x-window-system-core.

If you are running testing then you do need it. The "xorg" package you're reffering to is from *unstable*.

However, I did try "xorg" and it resolved all issues with fonts.alias etc. on the very first try, KDE runs. What was the problem with x-window-system-core I guess I'll never know.

Thanks for the help.


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