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David Guntner
Dec 1, 2012, 12:40:02 PM12/1/12
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Hi, all.
I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root
would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now,
unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user.
Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it
save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the
system?
--Dave
I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root
would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now,
unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user.
Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it
save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the
system?
--Dave
Jay DeKing
Dec 3, 2012, 9:10:01 AM12/3/12
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From: David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net>
To: Linux Debian Mailing List <debia...@lists.debian.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 8:51 AM
>Subject: Re: KDE4 - way to add to "k" menu for *all* users?
No, you are hardly the only KDE4 user. It looks like nobody has an answer for you yet, though. I surely don't. Sorry about that. It is a good question. Have you asked on the KDE lists?
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Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 9:10:01 AM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800
David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
>So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was
possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
now doesn't. I really have no idea.
>doesn't use GNOME? :-)
No. I use KDE4 myself.
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David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
>So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
now doesn't. I really have no idea.
>doesn't use GNOME? :-)
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David Guntner
Dec 3, 2012, 9:20:01 AM12/3/12
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Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
>
> I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was
> possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
> you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
> now doesn't. I really have no idea.
Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
>
> I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was
> possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
> you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
> now doesn't. I really have no idea.
had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would
really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe
that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even
those rare occasions where I use dpkg), I see it saying something about
"processing triggers for menu" and so on as it does its thing - and then
that new program shows up in the KDE menu. So there *has* to be a
method for getting something into the K menu system-wide for all users.
I just wish I knew what it is.... :-)
--Dave
David Guntner
Dec 3, 2012, 9:30:01 AM12/3/12
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Jay DeKing grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
>> David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>>
>>> I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as
>>> root would let you set the menu items for all users on the
>>> system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for
>>> the root user.
>>>
>>> Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have
>>> it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users
>>> on the system?
>
>
>> David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>>
>>> I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as
>>> root would let you set the menu items for all users on the
>>> system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for
>>> the root user.
>>>
>>> Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have
>>> it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users
>>> on the system?
>
> No, you are hardly the only KDE4 user. It looks like nobody has an
> answer for you yet, though. I surely don't. Sorry about that. It is a
> good question. Have you asked on the KDE lists?
Guess I may have to go find one and join it just long enough to see if
> answer for you yet, though. I surely don't. Sorry about that. It is a
> good question. Have you asked on the KDE lists?
anyone there knows the way to do it. I know I've Googled like crazy,
figuring it would have turned up in a web forum or mailing list archive
somewhere (I can't believe I'm the only person who's tried to do this
and had problems with it :-) ), but I guess my Google Fu in this case
just isn't strong enough - either really no one has discussed this
before or I'm just not coming up with the right search terms. (The
latter being the most likely. <grin>)
So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the
question. :-)
Thanks.
--Dave
Tony van der Hoff
Dec 3, 2012, 9:30:01 AM12/3/12
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On 03/12/12 14:04, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
>
> I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was
> possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
> you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
> now doesn't. I really have no idea.
>
>> doesn't use GNOME? :-)
>
> No. I use KDE4 myself.
>
+1
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who
>
> I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was
> possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let
> you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and
> now doesn't. I really have no idea.
>
>> doesn't use GNOME? :-)
>
> No. I use KDE4 myself.
>
There is no easy way to do this. The best you can do is amend the root
user's menu, and then copy that to the global menu file. However, as
soon as individual users start modifying their menus, they are stuck
with their settings, and nothing you do with the global file will have
any effect. It's crap design...
I'm not sure whether you may be able to edit the root user's menu, which
will be reflected in a *virgin* user's menu.
Try http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/howtos/kde-menus.htm, for some hints.
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Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 10:40:01 AM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:15:01 -0800
>really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe
>that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even
I can; There's a few things that were available under KDE3, and are no
longer doable in v4, more's the pity. :-(
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David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
Hello David,
>Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I
>had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would
I missed that part, then.
>had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would
>really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe
>that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even
longer doable in v4, more's the pity. :-(
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Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 10:40:02 AM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:25:26 +0000
Tony van der Hoff <to...@vanderhoff.org> wrote:
Hello Tony,
>I'm not sure whether you may be able to edit the root user's menu, which
>will be reflected in a *virgin* user's menu.
You saying that has reminded me, that there's somewhere you can store
default settings for just this use case. I don't recall where it is,
but I'm sure a google will locate it. Whether it'll work for the menus,
IDK.
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Tony van der Hoff <to...@vanderhoff.org> wrote:
Hello Tony,
>I'm not sure whether you may be able to edit the root user's menu, which
>will be reflected in a *virgin* user's menu.
default settings for just this use case. I don't recall where it is,
but I'm sure a google will locate it. Whether it'll work for the menus,
IDK.
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Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 10:40:02 AM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:18:49 -0800
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David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
Hello David,
>So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the
>question. :-)
How about <debia...@lists.debian.org>?
>question. :-)
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David Guntner
Dec 3, 2012, 1:10:02 PM12/3/12
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Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:18:49 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the
>> question. :-)
>
> How about <debia...@lists.debian.org>?
Oh! Ok, I didn't know there was one of those. :-) I figured I'd have
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:18:49 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the
>> question. :-)
>
> How about <debia...@lists.debian.org>?
to join a {something}@kde list or something like that. Thanks!
--Dave
David Guntner
Dec 3, 2012, 1:10:03 PM12/3/12
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Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:15:01 -0800
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I
>> had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would
>
> I missed that part, then.
Naw, you didn't miss it. I just hadn't mentioned it - thus my "I wasn't
> David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I
>> had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would
>
> I missed that part, then.
completely clear about that." :-)
>> really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe
>> that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even
>
> I can; There's a few things that were available under KDE3, and are no
> longer doable in v4, more's the pity. :-(
that when I install a package via one of the regular methods
(dpkg/apt/aptitude), it does update the K menu for everybody and that
new items shows up. So a method *has* to be there; otherwise, how is
the package manager doing it?
--Dave
Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 1:20:02 PM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:03:16 -0800
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David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
Hello David,
>Oh! Ok, I didn't know there was one of those. :-) I figured I'd have
>to join a {something}@kde list or something like that. Thanks!
YW, David.
>to join a {something}@kde list or something like that. Thanks!
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Brad Rogers
Dec 3, 2012, 1:50:02 PM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:05:58 -0800
Ah well....
>(dpkg/apt/aptitude), it does update the K menu for everybody and that
>new items shows up. So a method *has* to be there; otherwise, how is
>the package manager doing it?
Good point. I'd not considered that.
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David Guntner <dav...@akaMail.net> wrote:
Hello David,
Hello David,
>Naw, you didn't miss it. I just hadn't mentioned it - thus my "I wasn't
>completely clear about that." :-)
Which I misread as "I *was* completely..." (my emphasis).
>completely clear about that." :-)
Ah well....
>(dpkg/apt/aptitude), it does update the K menu for everybody and that
>new items shows up. So a method *has* to be there; otherwise, how is
>the package manager doing it?
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Kushal Kumaran
Dec 4, 2012, 1:10:01 AM12/4/12
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of the files in /usr/share/applications as a starting point.
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