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sirqu...@lavabit.com
Mar 29, 2013, 5:30:02 PM3/29/13
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> Hi,
>
> I've new to Debian, but already I've found two important packages that
> haven't been updated for this OS in a while: Netatalk is almost three
> years out of date, and Privoxy seems just as bad (I'm on 3.0.16, and
> 3.0.18 stable was released at the end of 2011).
>
> I was looking for a stable, well-established and well-supported OS, but
> from the looks of things package maintenance may be flagging badly.
>
> Is that fair or have I just chanced upon two significant outliers? If so
> I'm pretty unlucky, considering netatalk and privoxy represent about 66%
> of the total packages I've installed post-setup.
>
> PS: I apologise for my tone. I thought I was well into getting this setup
> bedded-down, and my frustration is building.:(
>
I just got a reply on another list, and it drew my attention to the fact
that Debian is an LTS OS. I hadn't realised that would affect package
availability too, so the mistake is mine.
Apologies. Guess I'll just have to find a more appropriate OS.
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>
> I've new to Debian, but already I've found two important packages that
> haven't been updated for this OS in a while: Netatalk is almost three
> years out of date, and Privoxy seems just as bad (I'm on 3.0.16, and
> 3.0.18 stable was released at the end of 2011).
>
> I was looking for a stable, well-established and well-supported OS, but
> from the looks of things package maintenance may be flagging badly.
>
> Is that fair or have I just chanced upon two significant outliers? If so
> I'm pretty unlucky, considering netatalk and privoxy represent about 66%
> of the total packages I've installed post-setup.
>
> PS: I apologise for my tone. I thought I was well into getting this setup
> bedded-down, and my frustration is building.:(
>
I just got a reply on another list, and it drew my attention to the fact
that Debian is an LTS OS. I hadn't realised that would affect package
availability too, so the mistake is mine.
Apologies. Guess I'll just have to find a more appropriate OS.
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sirqu...@lavabit.com
Mar 29, 2013, 5:30:03 PM3/29/13
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Hi,
I've new to Debian, but already I've found two important packages that
haven't been updated for this OS in a while: Netatalk is almost three
years out of date, and Privoxy seems just as bad (I'm on 3.0.16, and
3.0.18 stable was released at the end of 2011).
I was looking for a stable, well-established and well-supported OS, but
from the looks of things package maintenance may be flagging badly.
Is that fair or have I just chanced upon two significant outliers? If so
I'm pretty unlucky, considering netatalk and privoxy represent about 66%
of the total packages I've installed post-setup.
PS: I apologise for my tone. I thought I was well into getting this setup
bedded-down, and my frustration is building.:(
I've new to Debian, but already I've found two important packages that
haven't been updated for this OS in a while: Netatalk is almost three
years out of date, and Privoxy seems just as bad (I'm on 3.0.16, and
3.0.18 stable was released at the end of 2011).
I was looking for a stable, well-established and well-supported OS, but
from the looks of things package maintenance may be flagging badly.
Is that fair or have I just chanced upon two significant outliers? If so
I'm pretty unlucky, considering netatalk and privoxy represent about 66%
of the total packages I've installed post-setup.
PS: I apologise for my tone. I thought I was well into getting this setup
bedded-down, and my frustration is building.:(
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John Hasler
Mar 29, 2013, 6:10:02 PM3/29/13
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sirquijote writes:
> I just got a reply on another list, and it drew my attention to the fact
> that Debian is an LTS OS.
Debian Stable is. For bleeding edge you want Unstable.
> I just got a reply on another list, and it drew my attention to the fact
> that Debian is an LTS OS.
> I hadn't realised that would affect package availability too, so the
> mistake is mine.
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green
Mar 29, 2013, 7:00:02 PM3/29/13
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sirqu...@lavabit.com wrote at 2013-03-29 16:23 -0500:
> Apologies. Guess I'll just have to find a more appropriate OS.
As already mentioned, squeeze-backports might help, though neither
> Apologies. Guess I'll just have to find a more appropriate OS.
netatalk nor privoxy currently have more recent versions backported.
Consider building your own backports. Or trying testing or unstable;
despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
(mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
trouble with Debian squeeze.
SQ
Mar 29, 2013, 7:20:01 PM3/29/13
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> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
> trouble with Debian squeeze.
Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
> trouble with Debian squeeze.
How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or do I just add those lists to apt-get?
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sirqu...@lavabit.com
Mar 29, 2013, 7:40:02 PM3/29/13
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>> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
>> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
>> trouble with Debian squeeze.
>
> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>
> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>
nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
>> trouble with Debian squeeze.
>
> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>
> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>
Thanks for the help. :)
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Dom
Mar 30, 2013, 1:50:01 AM3/30/13
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On 29/03/13 23:31, sirqu...@lavabit.com wrote:
>>> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
>>> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
>>> trouble with Debian squeeze.
>>
>> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>>
>> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
>> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>>
> nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>
> Thanks for the help. :)
>
Make sure you follow the install/upgrade notes carefully when upgrading
>>> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
>>> (mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
>>> trouble with Debian squeeze.
>>
>> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>>
>> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
>> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>>
> nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>
> Thanks for the help. :)
>
from Squeeze to Wheezy/Testing. There are some steps that have to be
done in the right order (upgrading udev and kernel, for a start), or you
will end up with an unusable system.
It is certainly worth moving to Wheezy, as it will replace Squeeze as
Stable in the very near future.
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sirqu...@lavabit.com
Mar 31, 2013, 5:30:01 PM3/31/13
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> On 29/03/13 23:31, sirqu...@lavabit.com wrote:
>>>> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
(mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
trouble with Debian squeeze.
>>> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>>> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
>>> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>> nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>> Thanks for the help. :)
>
> Make sure you follow the install/upgrade notes carefully when upgrading
from Squeeze to Wheezy/Testing. There are some steps that have to be
done in the right order (upgrading udev and kernel, for a start), or you
will end up with an unusable system.
>
> It is certainly worth moving to Wheezy, as it will replace Squeeze as
Stable in the very near future.
>
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> Dom
It transpires that Netatalk hasn't reached v3 in sid yet, and the good
>>>> despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
(mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
trouble with Debian squeeze.
>>> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>>> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
>>> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>> nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>> Thanks for the help. :)
>
> Make sure you follow the install/upgrade notes carefully when upgrading
from Squeeze to Wheezy/Testing. There are some steps that have to be
done in the right order (upgrading udev and kernel, for a start), or you
will end up with an unusable system.
>
> It is certainly worth moving to Wheezy, as it will replace Squeeze as
Stable in the very near future.
>
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> Dom
folks on the Netatalk mailing list tell me it's highly recommended, so I
think I'll just stick with Squeeze and compile Netatalk 3 myself.
Responses and patience much appreciated :)
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