Screwed up toolbars and menus
Matej Cepl
I am a happy user of KDE 3.2.2 on Debian/woody (KDE is from
download.kde.org), but when installing that (and removing nightmare of
screwed up packages -- conflicting OpenOffice and LyX, uselessly new X,
etc.), there are still two problems which persists: missing Help and
screwed up menus and toolbars. For example see screenshot of KPatience
(according to my wife, the most important program in KDE :-) on
http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/tmp/kpat.png. Or most KDE programs have at
least some menu double or other missing (konqueror has two Bookmarks menu,
kdvi has sometimes twice item Open in File menu, without open DVI there is
none, Help menu is before Settings, etc. etc.).
And ALL (without an exception) help items in Help menus (if they are
present at all, which is not the case many times -- e.g., in kmail the menu
Help has only one item "Introduction to KMail" but it is there twice) lead
to the same message in KDE Help Center "The requested help file could not
be found. Check that you have installed the documentation." Of course, the
documentation is installed (but reading docbook files in less is not much
pleasant experience -- I would hope for better :-), but there does not
seem to be a way how to persuade KDE to display it better.
I have tried to search through for /usr/share for some mishandled links,
but to no avail, I tried even the solution of hopeless KDE user -- moving
~/.kde to somewhere else with hope that KDE will rebuilt the directory
again and better, but no joy even in that (the same problems persisted).
Did anybody encountered such problems and is there any hope with resolving
it?
Thanks for any reply,
Matej
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Kevin Krammer
[snip]
> Did anybody encountered such problems and is there any hope with resolving
> it?
Encountered the same problems, especially annoying is that Konqueror's main
toolbar contains each action twice.
No luck in resovling it so far.
Cheers,
Kevin
Björn Krombholz
> I am a happy user of KDE 3.2.2 on Debian/woody (KDE is from
> download.kde.org), but when installing that (and removing nightmare of
> screwed up packages -- conflicting OpenOffice and LyX, uselessly new X,
> etc.), there are still two problems which persists: missing Help and
> screwed up menus and toolbars. For example see screenshot of KPatience
> (according to my wife, the most important program in KDE :-) on
> http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/tmp/kpat.png. Or most KDE programs have at
> least some menu double or other missing (konqueror has two Bookmarks menu,
> kdvi has sometimes twice item Open in File menu, without open DVI there is
> none, Help menu is before Settings, etc. etc.).
Hi Matej,
I noticed a similiar bevaviour some month ago. Maybe
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216463&archive=yes
will help you fixing the issue.
Bjoern
Matej Cepl
> I noticed a similiar bevaviour some month ago. Maybe
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216463&archive=yes
> will help you fixing the issue.
Thanks for trying (seriously!), but no joy here -- all described
directories were in their place.
Matej
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Silvan
> On Saturday 07 of August 2004 15:16, Björn Krombholz wrote:
> > I noticed a similiar bevaviour some month ago. Maybe
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216463&archive=yes
> > will help you fixing the issue.
>
> Thanks for trying (seriously!), but no joy here -- all described
> directories were in their place.
Interesting.
>The global kderc-file `/etc/kd3/system.globals' is empty what causes
>problems in GUI-Layout of some KDE applications.
I don't have a system.globals or anything remotely of the sort. I tried a
dozen permutations.
I'm not having anything like the described behavior. maybe if this
system.globals thing does exist on your box, scooting it out of the way
temporarily might make good things happen.
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Matej Cepl
> And ALL (without an exception) help items in Help menus (if they are
> present at all, which is not the case many times -- e.g., in kmail the
> menu Help has only one item "Introduction to KMail" but it is there
> twice) lead to the same message in KDE Help Center "The requested help
> file could not be found. Check that you have installed the
> documentation." Of course, the documentation is installed (but reading
> docbook files in less is not much pleasant experience -- I would hope for
> better :-), but there does not seem to be a way how to persuade KDE to
> display it better.
Do you remember this ancient post of mine? I have in meantime upgraded to
KDE 3.2.2 (from download.kde.org on Debian/woody) just to find out, that
it is still alive and kicking -- no Helps for me. Then again from pure
feeling of dispair (you couldn't imagine how difficult it is to live
without help documents when you've got used to them) I googled again for
the answer and found this page --
http://www.webservertalk.com/archive235-2004-5-232451.html. Then I tried to
make a symlink from all subdirectories in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
(fortunately, I have just two of them there) to /usr/share/doc/HTML and
suddenly MY HELP IS BACK!!! Thanks God!
However, nasty questions still remain:
a) How is it possible that apparently no other user of Debian/woody
KDE 3.2.[12] happen to stumble upon this already?
b) I have in my /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals (see attached)
dir_html=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
Why KDE ignores it?
c) I compiled a program from source (krusader, if anybody is interested,
Debian/woody KDE 3.2.2 package is available at
http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/progs/debian/) and that one as the only one
KDE application does not have Help (trying "help:krusader" in Command
Prompt, because its menus are screwed us menus of all other KDE
applications; but that's another story).
Thanks in advance for any reply,
Matej
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Matej Cepl
> download.kde.org), but when installing that (and removing nightmare of
> screwed up packages -- conflicting OpenOffice and LyX, uselessly new X,
> etc.), there are still two problems which persists: missing Help and
> screwed up menus and toolbars. For example see screenshot of KPatience
After many searches over KDE, I hit the answer by reading this link I found
in this conference (just to be sure, that people who hit the same problem
I did, will find the solution):
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/01/msg00299.html
However, I have lost help again, whatever I look the help for the answer is
only (both to "help:kmail" or to the now regained item in Help menu)
"Požadovaný dokument s nápovědou nebyl nalezen. Ujistěte se, že jste
nainstalovali dokumentaci." (in English it would be "The requested help
file could not be found. Check that you have installed the
documentation."). Does anybody know the solution for this?
Best,
Matej
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