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Re: DPL 2013: Lats call for votes

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Ben Armstrong

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Apr 13, 2013, 6:00:01 AM4/13/13
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Kurt Roeckx

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Apr 13, 2013, 6:50:03 AM4/13/13
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 06:52:01AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
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So you're the second person that doesn't follow the headers I've
set:
Reply-To: leade...@vote.debian.org
Mail-Followup-To: leade...@vote.debian.org

Both of you are using Claws, and also replying to the list. Maybe
someone should file a bug against claws?


Kurt


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Ben Armstrong

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:10:02 AM4/13/13
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On 13/04/13 07:46 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 06:52:01AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
>>> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> [...]
>
> So you're the second person that doesn't follow the headers I've
> set:
> Reply-To: leade...@vote.debian.org
> Mail-Followup-To: leade...@vote.debian.org
>
> Both of you are using Claws, and also replying to the list. Maybe
> someone should file a bug against claws?

Not specifically a Claws problem, but it contributed. No fewer than five
things had to go wrong for this mistake to happen:

1. I tried sending via icedove+enigmail, which is what I use daily. I
encountered the same problem I did last year (mangling of the message).
I cancelled the message and gave up too early because ...

2. I forgot that switching to PGP/Mime fixes the mangling issue (damn,
on re-reading the CFV it clearly says you can and should do that to
avoid issues).

3. I started claws after many years of disuse. Tried the obvious "reply
to sender" and noted it was going to be sent to the wrong address
(secretary, not leader2013).

4. I cancelled that and tried "Reply". Good! Now it says leader2013, but
the font-size was large and the window size small (certainly things I
would've adjusted had I been a regular user of claws) which narrowed the
headers pane to the point where I could only see one address, leader2013.

5. Not only was there only one address visible, but I also failed to
notice that instead of "To:" it said "Cc:" which was a big clue ...

So, a Claws problem? Well, arguably point 3 should be fixed, but I'm not
going to be the one to file the bug, as I'm no longer a regular Claws
user and now that I've remembered point 2, I should no longer have the
issue.

Sorry about that.

Ben



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Philipp Benner

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:40:01 AM4/13/13
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:08:58 -0300
Ben Armstrong <sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> wrote:
> 4. I cancelled that and tried "Reply". Good! Now it says leader2013,
> but the font-size was large and the window size small (certainly
> things I would've adjusted had I been a regular user of claws) which
> narrowed the headers pane to the point where I could only see one
> address, leader2013.

Same here.

I'm also not a regular claws user. But none of the reply buttons
follows the settings that were set by Kurt. I understand that 'reply to
all' and 'reply to sender' actually shouldn't, but the standard reply
should just go to what is set in the reply-to header, or? At least this
is the behaviour I am used to from other clients.

Best,
Philipp


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Andreas Rönnquist

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:20:02 AM4/13/13
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:31:07 +0200,
Philipp Benner<phi...@debian.org> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:08:58 -0300
>Ben Armstrong <sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> wrote:
>> 4. I cancelled that and tried "Reply". Good! Now it says leader2013,
>> but the font-size was large and the window size small (certainly
>> things I would've adjusted had I been a regular user of claws) which
>> narrowed the headers pane to the point where I could only see one
>> address, leader2013.
>
>Same here.
>
>I'm also not a regular claws user. But none of the reply buttons
>follows the settings that were set by Kurt. I understand that 'reply to
>all' and 'reply to sender' actually shouldn't, but the standard reply
>should just go to what is set in the reply-to header, or? At least this
>is the behaviour I am used to from other clients.
>

There is a setting in Configurations -> Preferences -> Compose ->
Writing and there the "Replying" Box:

"Reply button invokes mailing list reply"

which affects this behaviour.

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-- Andreas Rönnquist
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Steve Langasek

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Apr 13, 2013, 11:00:02 AM4/13/13
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:29:06AM +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:

> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 8367b943-96ac-4530-afbd-529da5fc4fd5
> [ 7 ] Choice 1: Gergely Nagy
> [ 3 ] Choice 2: Moray Allan
> [ Q ] Choice 3: Lucas Nussbaum
> [ ə ] Choice 4: None Of The Above
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