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Bug#533439: Please consider this a regression

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Kumar Appaiah

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Jul 3, 2009, 7:50:06 PM7/3/09
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Dear Mutt maintainers,

I am perplexed and quite put off by the new "new" mail behaviour. In
short, when I leave a message marked "new" in an mbox file and change
folders, it should NOT show the mbox file in the changed mbox list
(unless there is a fresh, new message written to it). Granted, that
the Mutt developers have made a decision to "correct" what they
consider a bug; I respect that and have no right to oppose it. But I
wish to request the Debian maintainers to discuss about considering
this a regression. Many of us users have found this behaviour
surprising, and, while, one could argue that we have just got used to
the bug, long time users would not want to be taken by surprise. So,
please do, at least, consider adding an option to restore the old
behaviour.

Thanks!

Kumar
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Antonio Radici

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Jul 4, 2009, 4:50:10 AM7/4/09
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Hi Kumar,
thanks for your report, we already know that some users are quite
annoyed by the new behaviors and the mutt maintainers are already active
in trying to find a new approach to consistently tackle this problem
along with the mail detection, Rocco Rutte is the person who is working
on this; they discussed this in their mailing list and there is a wiki
page about this (you can find the URL in the previous correspondences of
this bug).

A definitive fix for this will come with version 1.6, which is only two
releases away from the current release: we expect 1.5.21 and 1.6;
restoring the old behavior would mean to revert some chunks of code and
various commits; since the mutt maintainers are activetely trying to fix
this we would rather wait.

Obviously the final decision is up to Christoph Berg, who is the current
maintainer of mutt (I'm co-maintaining it), so if he wants to revert
these commits I will start to do so from next Monday, when I will be
back from holidays :-)

Cheers
Antonio

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Kumar Appaiah

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Jul 4, 2009, 8:10:12 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 08:35:09AM +0000, Antonio Radici wrote:
> Hi Kumar,
> thanks for your report, we already know that some users are quite
> annoyed by the new behaviors and the mutt maintainers are already active
> in trying to find a new approach to consistently tackle this problem
> along with the mail detection, Rocco Rutte is the person who is working
> on this; they discussed this in their mailing list and there is a wiki
> page about this (you can find the URL in the previous correspondences of
> this bug).

Thanks. I reread that article, and would like to thank the developers
for taking into consideration our request.

> A definitive fix for this will come with version 1.6, which is only two
> releases away from the current release: we expect 1.5.21 and 1.6;
> restoring the old behavior would mean to revert some chunks of code and
> various commits; since the mutt maintainers are activetely trying to fix
> this we would rather wait.

Sure. Thanks for letting us know.

> Obviously the final decision is up to Christoph Berg, who is the current
> maintainer of mutt (I'm co-maintaining it), so if he wants to revert
> these commits I will start to do so from next Monday, when I will be
> back from holidays :-)

Enjoy yourself, and thanks again.

Kumar
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