Poll: Do you want to see ads for training courses in this group?

[Stu Miller (moderator)]

A member has requested they be able to post notices for training
courses their company offers for a fee. This group has traditionally
not allowed such posts. I am going to experiment with an ad hoc poll
in this group.

Please reply to this posting only if you object / vote NO. If you vote
YES or have no opinion, no need to respond.

Thanks.
Stu

[Chas]

No,

On Jul 15, 10:57 am, "Stu Miller (moderator)" <millers2...@rcn.com>
wrote:

[Stu Miller (moderator)]

Apologies to the group. Some of you may have received the posting in
question regardless. Operator error on my part. My out of office auto-
reply is on and turns out this auto-reply triggers posting of pending
messages.

On Jul 15, 10:57 am, "Stu Miller (moderator)" <millers2...@rcn.com>
wrote:

[John Jones]

I would have to vote NO.

I feel this is the thin end of wedge for spam.

The group works extremely well as it is.

[list_...@geometrick.com]

Hello All,

On Jul 15, 10:57 am, "Stu Miller (moderator)" <millers2...@rcn.com>
wrote:
> A member has requested they be able to post notices for training
> courses their company offers for a fee. This group has traditionally
> not allowed such posts. I am going to experiment with an ad hoc poll
> in this group.
>
> Please reply to this posting only if you object / vote NO. If you vote
> YES or have no opinion, no need to respond.
>
> Thanks.
> Stu

I want to point-out that I was the person that suggested to Delphinus that their course might be of interest to people within the LIMS discussion list and to see if they could post it.

I thought it looked useful and comprehensive and looked at it, myself, as another learning resource to share with people.

I wanted to say this to make it clear that Delphinus didn't suddenly decide to post/spam a number of lists, but that I specifically directed them, here. If it turns out to be inappropriate, I hope you won't hold it against Delphinus because this was at my instigation.

Gloria Metrick
GeoMetrick Enterprises
Helping companies understand and manage their laboratory data.

1.781.365.0180 (Voice Only)
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[John Jones]

Gloria,

 

My thought on this is that this list is about the only list/service for the LIMS community without a commercial bent to it.  Unfortunately, the list does not have much traffic either.  On the other hand, I believe that what makes this list have a loyal following is that fact that when people do post something, it is something that is useful.  Lot's of vendor stuff can be considered useful and informative.  My only fear is that it starts to degenerate and there is will be no clear and fair way to say when something is spam and when it is something someone cares about.  One person's spam is another person's information.

 

I have mixed feelings on all this and do not like it when people flame others because they posted something that someone might consider spam.  I do think everyone should be very tolerant of postings even if they push the boundaries or even go beyond.  We just need some moderation and common sense.  Since the list is very well moderated by Stu, I change my mind and think such posting should be fine as long as it does not end up with a spam free for all.  Stu could kill posts that go over the top.

 

John

 

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From: lims-l...@googlegroups.com [mailto:lims-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of list_...@geometrick.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:04 AM
To: lims-l...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [lims-lab-inf 88] Re: Poll: Do you want to see ads for training courses in this group?

[Terry Iorns]

I see nothing wrong with this type of posting, in fact I think it is a good
idea. I am often asked by people to recommend a meeting or a course and it
is nice to have a ready source of this information.

Terry V. Iorns
Iorns Consulting, Inc.
email: tio...@iorns.com

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Behalf Of Stu Miller (moderator)
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:58 AM
To: LIMS & Lab Informatics

Subject: [lims-lab-inf 83] Poll: Do you want to see ads for training courses
in this group?

[William Pingpank]

I’ll go ahead and throw my opinion in on this since the recent posts seem to favor ads on the list.

 

From my perspective (read: opinion), the list should be used to respond to those querying or seeking information relating to LIMS and related subjects. My concern with posting unsolicited ads is that as John Jones pointed out below – it would require serious moderation by Stu. I really think that could become quite burdensome for the moderators – and subjective.

 

I’m sure all of us have seen other groups degrade to simple marketing and promotion areas. When this has historically happened in other areas – I have found myself simply ignoring posts from that group and ultimately dropping off.

 

To avoid the potential (and very likely) situation of misuse - I believe that a forum post that contains marketing material that is in response to a member query is acceptable but an unsolicited marketing post is not. Let the forum users express the need to which those of us who have applicable experience or product or service may respond to if appropriate.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Regards to All,

Bill Pingpank

Ethosoft, Inc.

 

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From: lims-l...@googlegroups.com [mailto:lims-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Jones
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:51 AM
To: list_...@geometrick.com; lims-l...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [lims-lab-inf 89] Re: Poll: Do you want to see ads for training courses in this group?

 

Gloria,

 

My thought on this is that this list is about the only list/service for the LIMS community without a commercial bent to it.  Unfortunately, the list does not have much traffic either.  On the other hand, I believe that what makes this list have a loyal following is that fact that when people do post something, it is something that is useful.  Lot's of vendor stuff can be considered useful and informative.  My only fear is that it starts to degenerate and there is will be no clear and fair way to say when something is spam and when it is something someone cares about.  One person's spam is another person's information.

 

I have mixed feelings on all this and do not like it when people flame others because they posted something that someone might consider spam.  I do think everyone should be very tolerant of postings even if they push the boundaries or even go beyond.  We just need some moderation and common sense.  Since the list is very well moderated by Stu, I change my mind and think such posting should be fine as long as it does not end up with a spam free for all.  Stu could kill posts that go over the top.

 

John

 

 

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From: lims-l...@googlegroups.com [mailto:lims-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of list_...@geometrick.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:04 AM
To: lims-l...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [lims-lab-inf 88] Re: Poll: Do you want to see ads for training courses in this group?

Hello All,

On Jul 15, 10:57 am, "Stu Miller (moderator)" <millers2...@rcn.com>
wrote:

> A member has requested they be able to post notices for training
> courses their company offers for a fee. This group has traditionally
> not allowed such posts. I am going to experiment with an ad hoc poll
> in this group.
>
> Please reply to this posting only if you object / vote NO. If you vote
> YES or have no opinion, no need to respond.
>
> Thanks.
> Stu

I want to point-out that I was the person that suggested to Delphinus that their course might be of interest to people within the LIMS discussion list and to see if they could post it.

I thought it looked useful and comprehensive and looked at it, myself, as another learning resource to share with people.

I wanted to say this to make it clear that Delphinus didn't suddenly decide to post/spam a number of lists, but that I specifically directed them, here. If it turns out to be inappropriate, I hope you won't hold it against Delphinus because this was at my instigation.

Gloria Metrick
GeoMetrick Enterprises
Helping companies understand and manage their laboratory data.

1.781.365.0180 (Voice Only)
http://www.GeoMetrick.com/
LinkedIn Profile:        http://www.linkedin.com/in/geometrick

GeoMetrick Enterprises is the home of "Out on a LIMS: The Newsletter for People Who Risk Life and LIMS on a Daily Basis" which is internationally distributed monthly to subscribers across the industry, probably including your co-workers and competitors, including every major LIMS vendor.

To subscribe:  http://www.geometrick.com/newsltr_signup.htm <BR