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Mads Jensen  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 6:25 pm
From: Mads Jensen <mads...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:25:58 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 6:25 pm
Subject: The Happy Lift'r Prize

Hey guys,

We're announcing the "Happy Lift'r Prize". The prize will be given every 2.
wednesday of the month and has the value of $100. It goes to someone who has
been awesome in the Lift community. In the case of multiple winners the
prize will be split equally.

If someone has been helpful you can nominate them by replying to this thread
with a small description of who the person is and what he/she has done of
awesome things. If you spent some time working on the WIKI (or have been
helpful in some other way) it's perfectly acceptable to remind people of
your great work by replying to this thread as well.

So, keep being as awesome as you are now and maybe you will be able to
collect the first bounty the 10 of November.

Thanks,
Mads Hartmann Jensen


 
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David Pollak  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 6:28 pm
From: David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:28:19 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Very cool!  Looking forward to giving out prizes and enhancing the
community.  A big shout-out to Mads for organizing this!

> Thanks,
> Mads Hartmann Jensen

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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 6:37 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:37:30 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Maybe we should write a Lift frontend to the mailing list that lets you mark
replies as helpful!
Who's sponsoring this and who picks the winner(s)?


 
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Mads Jensen  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:03 pm
From: Mads Jensen <mads...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:03:42 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Lets see how it will work with this thread first, if doesn't work out we can
work on a nicer system :)

Mads

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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:05 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:05:41 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Yeah, I wasn't being that serious. :)
What about the other questions?


 
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Mads Jensen  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:11 pm
From: Mads Jensen <mads...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:11:07 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

David is sponsoring it and the winner(s) will be the ones with most mentions
on this thread - so in that way everyone can help select the winners :)

Mads

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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:12 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:12:21 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Anything more well-defined than "most"?


 
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Mads Jensen  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:21 pm
From: Mads Jensen <mads...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:21:40 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Not at the moment no - Lets see how this first round will go. Most might be
sufficient :)

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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:23 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:23:13 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

No problem, as long as there are no disagreements later!


 
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 7:37 pm
From: David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:37:08 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>wrote:

> No problem, as long as there are no disagreements later!

Mads is running the Lift'r Prize.  I trust his judgment and his decisions
about prize allocation are final.

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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:14 pm
From: Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:14:11 -0600
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize
I thought I would pass on a reference to a book I'm reading now about
motivation. The main theme is that there are intrinsic and extrinsic
motivators. Doing something for the love of it, or to be part of
something great (like the lift community) is an intrinsic motivator.
Doing something specifically for a goal is an extrinsic motivator.

The research showed that people driven by an extrinsic motivator were
less creative than those driven by an intrinsic motivator.

This usage is one of the few cases where a reward doesn't  decrease
creativity as the reward is just something nice to do and not an
expectation of participation.

At any rate - I am finding it a really interesting read and it seemed
apropos to the topic.

cheers,
Paul
http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/15944...


 
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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:23 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:23:01 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

By intrinsic vs. extrinsic, do you mean whether it's what you want vs. it's
not necessarily what you want but rather a means of getting something else
you want? Or something else?


 
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:28 pm
From: Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:28:54 -0600
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Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize
It's more about whether the motivation is coming from inside or outside.

I think I missed the most interesting point. Applying an extrinsic
motivator (reward) to an already intrinsically motivating task makes
people LESS creative than they would have been without it.


 
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:31 pm
From: David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:31:24 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's more about whether the motivation is coming from inside or outside.

> I think I missed the most interesting point. Applying an extrinsic
> motivator (reward) to an already intrinsically motivating task makes
> people LESS creative than they would have been without it.

I am hoping the prize represents a community celebration of a contributor
and that the celebration/praise serves as an internal motivator as well as a
way of making clear that the Lift community recognizes and celebrates
contribution.

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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:38 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:38:26 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

Interesting. Do they give any explanation?


 
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:39 pm
From: Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:39:24 -0600
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

>> I think I missed the most interesting point. Applying an extrinsic
>> motivator (reward) to an already intrinsically motivating task makes
>> people LESS creative than they would have been without it.

> I am hoping the prize represents a community celebration of a contributor
> and that the celebration/praise serves as an internal motivator as well as a
> way of making clear that the Lift community recognizes and celebrates
> contribution.

So I'm not an expert (and reading half a book about the topic
certainly doesn't make me one).

However, my take (based mainly on reading this research) is that
making sure it is 2/3 recognition 1/3 cash will go further towards
accomplishing this goal. For instance a page on the website publicly
recording the recognition and celebration.


 
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Naftoli Gugenheim  
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:40 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:40:46 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

At least until some other research comes along saying otherwise, anyway...
:)


 
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 More options Oct 26 2010, 8:43 pm
From: Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:43:56 -0600
Local: Tues, Oct 26 2010 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting. Do they give any explanation?

Well, like I said it is worth reading the book.

But, briefly, the goal makes people focused on the goal and not on the
challenge. With the narrowed focus people took much longer to see
non-obvious solutions.


 
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 More options Oct 27 2010, 9:06 am
From: Douglas José <douglasj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:06:12 +0200
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 9:06 am
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 02:43, Paul Dale <paul.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Interesting. Do they give any explanation?

> Well, like I said it is worth reading the book.

Or watching the author's video on TED:
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation.html

Sorry about what I believe to be somehow off-topic, but considering
that the prize objective is to foster the group's motivation, this
subject may be relevant.

Kindly,
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 More options Oct 27 2010, 9:12 am
From: TylerWeir <tyler.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:12:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 9:12 am
Subject: Re: The Happy Lift'r Prize
I don't see this prize as a motivation tool, which is typically used
to entice people to complete a task they don't want to, or do not
value.
I see this as appreciation for something that already happens.

I have a few people to nominate, starting with Derek, for his ongoing
improvement of the Lift Book.

e-highfive!

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: The Happy Lift'r Prize
Probably I'm the last person that should speak on this due to my
ongoing absence but I would vote for Derek as well !

Br's,
Marius

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From: TylerWeir <tyler.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: The Happy Lift'r Prize
Marius, you're with us in heart and code.

How's the baby?

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From: Marius <marius.dan...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:17:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: The Happy Lift'r Prize
:) Thx Ty. Alex is fine, growing and learning fast ;)

Br's,
Marius

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 More options Oct 27 2010, 5:32 pm
From: Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:32:01 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 27 2010 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Lift] The Happy Lift'r Prize

In what way do you think it may be relevant? Do you think DPP's generosity
is somehow going to negatively impact Lift?
Or do you think that perhaps according to this study there might be some way
to modify the program to make it better?


 
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 More options Nov 10 2010, 3:42 am
From: Mads Hartmann Jensen <mads...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:42:22 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 10 2010 3:42 am
Subject: Re: The Happy Lift'r Prize

** drum roll **

I'm happy to announce that we have a winner for the 1. Happy Lift'r Prize!

** drum roll getting louder **

Please join me in celebrating...

** drum roll getting even louder **

Derek Chen-Becker for his awesome work on the Exploring Lift book.

** Wild cheers and shouts of celebration **

Congratulations mate :)

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