Move to launchpad?
Erik Johansson
There has been some discussion on IRC about moving away from svn+trac
to something else. Both Jon and Anders have options about why we
should move from trac and personally I see this as a way to move away
from subversion.
We want something that can host code and has a bug tracker. The
alternatives I know of are: sourceforge (http://sf.net/), google code
(http://code.google.com/) and launchpad (https://launchpad.net/). Any
other alternatives?
I feel that sourceforge is too bloated and Anders have a similar option.
Google code looks ok and has a wiki. Launchpad does not have a wiki,
but web interface for doing translations and supports import from trac
(which I don't know if google does).
My suggestion:
Move bug tracker and code to launchpad.
Keep a wiki somewhere that licq.org can point to.
Opinions?
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Arne Schmitz
> We want something that can host code and has a bug tracker. The
> alternatives I know of are: sourceforge (http://sf.net/), google code
> (http://code.google.com/) and launchpad (https://launchpad.net/). Any
> other alternatives?
>
> I feel that sourceforge is too bloated and Anders have a similar option.
We started out at sf.net and moved away. Don't know the reasons anymore, but there were some. :)
> Google code looks ok and has a wiki. Launchpad does not have a wiki,
> but web interface for doing translations and supports import from trac
> (which I don't know if google does).
I have neither used Google Code nor Launchpad myself, so I cannot comment on their quality.
> My suggestion:
> Move bug tracker and code to launchpad.
> Keep a wiki somewhere that licq.org can point to.
What's with the move away from subversion that you talked about in your email? I am still mainly using svn, but also trying out git. Launchpad seems to use Bazaar -- whatever that is!
So what are the advantages of Launchpad? One thing I can see is the Ubuntu build service, which would of course be nice.
Cheers,
Arne
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Jon Keating
We moved away from SF due to poor reliability and their bug tracker was very unproductive, at the time.
Personnaly, I have no issues with svn, in fact I like it. I use git for most projects now and git-svn makes things even better.
The main issue is how heavy trac is. It spends a lot of time in the DB. What I am willing to do is move it to my personal server and see how things go. If I cannot make it better, then we will have to see what options we have. At this point I am leaning towards launchpad because they seem to have a good tracker and collaboration system.
I have to make the move by Dec 14th, so I will send out a notice when I can schedule some time to do the work. Most likely it will be dec 12 or 13.
Jon
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On Dec 2, 2009 6:36 PM, "Arne Schmitz" <arne.s...@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 30.11.2009 um 11:30 schrieb Erik Johansson:
> We want something that can host code and has a bug tracker. The > alternatives I know of are: sou...
We started out at sf.net and moved away. Don't know the reasons anymore, but there were some. :)
> Google code looks ok and has a wiki. Launchpad does not have a wiki, > but web interface for doin...
I have neither used Google Code nor Launchpad myself, so I cannot comment on their quality.
> My suggestion: > Move bug tracker and code to launchpad. > Keep a wiki somewhere that licq.org ca...
Jon Keating
I'm bringing this thread back to life after almost a year. The service
has not moved, but I will need to shut down that instance licq.org is
running on.
My personal server is now being used as a critical server for another
project, so I won't be able to host it on my server.
So the question is, where would you guys like to see Licq?
My suggestions are:
- github
- Launchpad
- Google Code
- SF
Jon
Arne Schmitz
> I'm bringing this thread back to life after almost a year. The service
> has not moved, but I will need to shut down that instance licq.org is
> running on.
>
> My personal server is now being used as a critical server for another
> project, so I won't be able to host it on my server.
>
> So the question is, where would you guys like to see Licq?
>
> My suggestions are:
>
> - github
> - Launchpad
> - Google Code
> - SF
By now I really came to like github. However, what do we do about trac and the bug tracking? Does github or Launchpad provide something like that?
Best regards,
Arne
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Erik Johansson
> By now I really came to like github. However, what do we do about trac and the bug tracking? Does github or Launchpad provide something like that?
I would really like to switch to git as I think a distributed version
control system would make it easier to get new contributors and I like
git. If we decide to switch I would be more than happy to do the
conversion as I've already done it once
(http://gitorious.org/licq/trunk-svnmirror).
Github seems to provide an issue tracker that could be enough for our
needs. There might be a problem converting our current tickets to that
system, but perhaps this is a good time to get a clean start and only
manually transfer some tickets?
Jon Keating
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 18:08, Arne Schmitz <arne.s...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> By now I really came to like github. However, what do we do about trac and the bug tracking? Does github or Launchpad provide something like that?
>
> I would really like to switch to git as I think a distributed version
> control system would make it easier to get new contributors and I like
> git. If we decide to switch I would be more than happy to do the
> conversion as I've already done it once
> (http://gitorious.org/licq/trunk-svnmirror).
I too think git (and github) are great for open source. It is so easy
to clone a repository, fix a bug and make a pull request.
> Github seems to provide an issue tracker that could be enough for our
> needs. There might be a problem converting our current tickets to that
> system, but perhaps this is a good time to get a clean start and only
> manually transfer some tickets?
Github provides an API for their ticket system, so a script can be
made to do the transfer, if desired. I haven't used it extensively, so
I'm not sure if it has all the features that we need.
How about we move the source to github this week and evaluate what to
do with tickets and wiki? I don't think we need the news section
anymore, since Twitter can easily replace that.
Jon
Erik Johansson
> How about we move the source to github this week and evaluate what to
> do with tickets and wiki? I don't think we need the news section
> anymore, since Twitter can easily replace that.
To have something to evaluate I have created a group (organization) at
github: https://github.com/licq-im (licq was taken so I picked
licq-im. I'll add more owners once I know your user ids).
I have also done a conversion to git: one for the website and one for
the main source tree. I have intentionally only saved the five latest
tags and the three active branches besides master. We can put the svn
repo somewhere and make it read-only if anybody is interested in some
history that isn't available in the git repo.
Please clone https://github.com/licq-im/licq and let me know if you
have any input on the conversion or anything else.