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  <title type="text">LibertarianSA Google Group</title>
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  A group for South African Libertarians. We believe in the sovereignty of the individual. These are the axioms for a peaceful, productive life 1. Every individual has an absolute right to life 2. Every action requires the consent of all parties 3. Every consent violation ought to be resisted
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  <updated>2008-07-11T08:43:39Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Trevor</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-11T08:43:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/6c60463bbc05b1cc/025f23751ef0e3a0?show_docid=025f23751ef0e3a0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/6c60463bbc05b1cc/025f23751ef0e3a0?show_docid=025f23751ef0e3a0"/>
  <title type="text">24th Libertarian Spring Seminar</title>
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  The 24th Libertarian Spring Seminar will take place from 4 - 7 &lt;br&gt; September at Golden Gate National Park, near Ficksburg in the Free &lt;br&gt; State. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Costs are as follows: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Hotel rooms @ R595 per person sharing or R835 per single including &lt;br&gt; breakfast, lunch &amp;amp; dinner + conference teas. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Brandwag self catering chalets (sleep 2 + 2 beds in lounge/
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-25T09:33:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/71160f14a6d8d794/4bfedae147beee63?show_docid=4bfedae147beee63</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/71160f14a6d8d794/4bfedae147beee63?show_docid=4bfedae147beee63"/>
  <title type="text">The people are Revolting</title>
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  Some of us achieve our destiny only in death. The image of “The &lt;br&gt; Burning Man” which has flashed around the world this last week will &lt;br&gt; haunt our beloved nation for years to come. Such images have changed &lt;br&gt; the course of history, and may yet change ours. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;This week most South Africans are bowed down under the weight of
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor Watkins</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-12T08:51:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/d4020d61760b9199/23ca972c4e1577ca?show_docid=23ca972c4e1577ca</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/d4020d61760b9199/23ca972c4e1577ca?show_docid=23ca972c4e1577ca"/>
  <title type="text">does south africa need a coalition of the liberal?</title>
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  Dear Liberal South Africa &lt;br&gt; does south africa need a coalition of liberal organisations? &lt;br&gt; and who would be the organisations invited to join such a coalition? &lt;br&gt; and what would the purpose of this coalition be? &lt;br&gt; i think this is a discussion worth having... what do you say?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor Watkins</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-04-10T16:41:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/37aa5b85f8287696/1b02966684fc82b3?show_docid=1b02966684fc82b3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/37aa5b85f8287696/1b02966684fc82b3?show_docid=1b02966684fc82b3"/>
  <title type="text">Teleportation and forcefields possible within decades</title>
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  Teleportation and forcefields possible within decades, says Professor &lt;br&gt; Michio Kaku &lt;br&gt; By Matthew Moore &lt;br&gt; Last Updated: 1:01pm BST 02/04/2008 &lt;br&gt; Teleportation and forcefields could become scientific realities within &lt;br&gt; decades, and time travel will also be possible in the future, according to &lt;br&gt; one of the world&#39;s leading physicists.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jacques L. Hamel</name>
  <email>jacha...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-04-10T09:31:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/310f3a654fdbf57b/ea8b74199339f971?show_docid=ea8b74199339f971</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/310f3a654fdbf57b/ea8b74199339f971?show_docid=ea8b74199339f971"/>
  <title type="text">Freedom, Worldviews and Mindsets for a Renaissance and for Uncovering Modernity in Africa</title>
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  Dear All, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Some members of the group may be interested in the blog below (6 &lt;br&gt; pages) on a strategy - a strategy of &#39;Subversive Rationalization&#39; -for &lt;br&gt; pulling Africa toward some form of distinctive modernity. Any comment? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Jacques L. Hamel &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://jachamel.googlepages.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The world we have created is the product of our thinking. It cannot
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-25T10:42:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/30c1599d41c6d2f4/d9a3de62733e180f?show_docid=d9a3de62733e180f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/30c1599d41c6d2f4/d9a3de62733e180f?show_docid=d9a3de62733e180f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Crime in South Africa</title>
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  [[[TOPIC: Crime in South Africa &lt;br&gt; It is patently obvious that the current management and staff of the &lt;br&gt; SAPS simply cannot cut the mustard in the face of the deadly crime &lt;br&gt; wave in SA. To a large extent the security business has already been &lt;br&gt; privatised, but without any legislative authority to apprehend and
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-25T10:41:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/235df8826cf10adf/457fb26ce4f7acd1?show_docid=457fb26ce4f7acd1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/235df8826cf10adf/457fb26ce4f7acd1?show_docid=457fb26ce4f7acd1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Principles matter</title>
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  [[[TOPIC: Principles matter &lt;br&gt; I identified with Ron Paul&#39;s reply to a question in an interview with Newsweek. &lt;br&gt; A number of conservative pundits and hard-line Republicans have said &lt;br&gt; they won&#39;t support McCain in the general election. How do you view &lt;br&gt; these claims, and how do you think they will impact party unity?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-22T08:12:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4488bf620b2de140/57f3f099396eb2c2?show_docid=57f3f099396eb2c2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4488bf620b2de140/57f3f099396eb2c2?show_docid=57f3f099396eb2c2"/>
  <title type="text">Crime in South Africa</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  This is a response I made to an article by Ivo Vegter on the M&amp;amp;G &lt;br&gt; Thought Leader blog, at &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/thespike/2008/03/07/how-to-mop-up-criminals-quickly/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;As a recent armed robbery and torture victim, and consequently a &lt;br&gt; client of the SAPS, I can speak with some experience of the state of
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-22T08:09:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/c3f42a4f3a9da396/b1750303e9af9bdd?show_docid=b1750303e9af9bdd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/c3f42a4f3a9da396/b1750303e9af9bdd?show_docid=b1750303e9af9bdd"/>
  <title type="text">Principles matter</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I identified with Ron Paul&#39;s reply to a question in an interview with &lt;br&gt; Newsweek. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;A number of conservative pundits and hard-line Republicans have said &lt;br&gt; they won&#39;t support McCain in the general election. How do you view &lt;br&gt; these claims, and how do you think they will impact party unity? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve always dealt in a world of principles. That&#39;s the most important
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-21T13:48:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/a583399c42e8a102?show_docid=a583399c42e8a102</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/a583399c42e8a102?show_docid=a583399c42e8a102"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Two thorny issues</title>
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  [[[TOPIC: Two thorny issues &lt;br&gt; 4. It gives whites in high places a chance to show how truly, truly, &lt;br&gt; really non-racist they are, while dumping on a bunch of know-nothing &lt;br&gt; hicks from the Free State.]]] &lt;br&gt; ---It was this aspect of the whole thing that I found te ost &lt;br&gt; profoundly irritating: everyone desperately jumping on the
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-21T13:47:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/3e6f6649e96619ce/4f95332c7610d3f7?show_docid=4f95332c7610d3f7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/3e6f6649e96619ce/4f95332c7610d3f7?show_docid=4f95332c7610d3f7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: New here</title>
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  [[[TOPIC: New here &lt;br&gt; Hi &lt;br&gt; We have tried several Libertarian parties over the years - The Kiss &lt;br&gt; Party and the Federal Party contested the 1994 election, and the &lt;br&gt; Economic Freedom Movement was involved in the last election. All were &lt;br&gt; unsuccessful in obtaining meaningful representation. There are &lt;br&gt; several active libertarians involved in DA politics, who have actually
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-16T12:12:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/fecd085a4150ffad?show_docid=fecd085a4150ffad</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/fecd085a4150ffad?show_docid=fecd085a4150ffad"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Two thorny issues</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I agree that the UOFS incident has been blown wildly out of &lt;br&gt; proportion, but I think there are good reasons for this. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;1. It takes attention away from the many real issues threatening the &lt;br&gt; country, such as crime, electricity, health, poverty, employment. &lt;br&gt; Racism is not a REAL issue - no one ever died because someone else
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor Watkins</name>
  <email>bas...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-13T18:47:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4a81055698d26a82/97cec2ad70b799d8?show_docid=97cec2ad70b799d8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4a81055698d26a82/97cec2ad70b799d8?show_docid=97cec2ad70b799d8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [Libsa] New here</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi &lt;br&gt; We have tried several Libertarian parties over the years - The Kiss Party &lt;br&gt; and the Federal Party contested the 1994 election, and the Economic Freedom &lt;br&gt; Movement was involved in the last election. All were unsuccessful in &lt;br&gt; obtaining meaningful representation. There are several active libertarians &lt;br&gt; involved in DA politics, who have actually been elected. Its really hard
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-10T09:59:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/7da63e95da712c9c?show_docid=7da63e95da712c9c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/23ffd7a1cde6e0c8/7da63e95da712c9c?show_docid=7da63e95da712c9c"/>
  <title type="text">Two thorny issues</title>
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  Some time ago, the entire country (or perhaps just the ever &lt;br&gt; scandal-conscious media?) was in uproar because of a meeting of a body &lt;br&gt; called the Forum for Black Journalists, where white journalists were &lt;br&gt; not welcome. &lt;br&gt; And a few days ago, another racial bomb went off when a video made by &lt;br&gt; white students at the University of the Orange Free State, in which
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anemic Fairy</name>
  <email>anemicfa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-03-10T09:57:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4a81055698d26a82/6041333c87182ee3?show_docid=6041333c87182ee3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/libsa/browse_thread/thread/4a81055698d26a82/6041333c87182ee3?show_docid=6041333c87182ee3"/>
  <title type="text">New here</title>
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  I just stumbled upon this group while looking around to see if South &lt;br&gt; Africa has anything like a Libertarian party. And looks like I&#39;m too &lt;br&gt; late; this group does not seem to have been active for quite some &lt;br&gt; time? &lt;br&gt; I wonder if anyone is planning on founding a local Libertarian party &lt;br&gt; in time for the next election. I have already decided that I will in
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