Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
ridge
on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Can you take photos and show the problem? Are you starting from a round
piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit. Which
router bit are you using, and how many starts?
----- Original Message ----- From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: REVO
> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> ridge
> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: REVO
> Hi Mac,
> Can you take photos and show the problem? Are you starting from a round
> piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit. Which
> router bit are you using, and how many starts?
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:30 PM
> Subject: REVO
> > Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> > some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> > to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> > the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> > ridge
> > on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> > curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
> Lil Twisted is a real know it all on this topic. Hopefully he will chime
> in.
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: REVO
> > Hi Mac,
> > Can you take photos and show the problem? Are you starting from a round
> > piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit. Which
> > router bit are you using, and how many starts?
> > > Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> > > some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> > > to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> > > the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> > > ridge
> > > on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> > > curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Pitch = The distance the router travels when the stock revolves one full revolution.
Bit = the full swing measurement of the bit of choice.
Start= the number of time you are traveling down the rail
Pitch = Bit X Starts
Bit = Pitch divided by Starts
Starts = Pitch divided by Bit
and so on
If things don't work on paper, they will either leave you a gap or will be crowded. All the way around.
The key though to your situation is the fact that you are getting different results on opposite sides of the stock. This would only mean that you have an out of round piece. Chuck it in, round it off and then mill it. if you still are getting a ridge, make sure your router is straight up and down. if it is set in crooked along the X , it will leave a tapered cut. This will be most visible with a bottom plane bit used for rounding off stock. Just set it in the machine and cut with it on a 1-1/2" pitch. Look at the cut to make sure it is cutting level.
Let us know what you find out.
>Lil Twisted is a real know it all on this topic. Hopefully he will chime
>in.
>-Tim
>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
>To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:50 PM
>Subject: Re: REVO
>>Hi Mac,
>>Can you take photos and show the problem? Are you starting from a round
>>piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit. Which
>>router bit are you using, and how many starts?
>>>Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
>>>some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
>>>to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
>>>the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
>>>ridge
>>>on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
>>>curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is your cross slide on centre?
I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the revo can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: REVO
> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> ridge
> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Hay Bill
dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I would get some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not constant. Just a friendly note. ;-)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: REVO
> Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is your
> cross slide on centre?
> I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the revo
> can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
> Subject: REVO
>> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
>> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
>> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
>> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
>> ridge
>> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
>> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Thank you, it has bushings but they are no were near worn out and when they do Ill make my self new ones I have a steel turning lathe at home and im a machinist by trade so im not worried about that but thanks for the heads up Im always open to any suggestion or info from any one as you know we never stop learning till we die
----- Original Message ----- From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: REVO
> Hay Bill
> dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
> My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I would > get
> some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not > constant.
> Just a friendly note. ;-)
> C.A.G.
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:20 AM
> Subject: Re: REVO
>> Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is your
>> cross slide on centre?
>> I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the >> revo
>> can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
>> Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
>> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
>> Subject: REVO
>>> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
>>> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
>>> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
>>> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
>>> ridge
>>> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
>>> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
The carriage moving off of center is a good tip too. From the pictures I
can see the revo has a knob that tightens the carriage from moving. I also
know it has stops that are screwed in the side to prevent travel. If I owned
a Revo, I would lock the knob down AND set the stops against the carriage
before making your spiral cut. Actually, I would probably add a lock like
the one on the left side to the right side of the carriage as well.
I'm real curious to see what the final answer is on this one.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: REVO
> Thank you, it has bushings but they are no were near worn out and when
they
> do Ill make my self new ones I have a steel turning lathe at home and im a
> machinist by trade so im not worried about that but thanks for the heads
up
> Im always open to any suggestion or info from any one as you know we never
> stop learning till we die
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: REVO
> > Hay Bill
> > dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
> > My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I would
> > get
> > some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not
> > constant.
> > Just a friendly note. ;-)
> > C.A.G.
> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: REVO
> >> Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is
your
> >> cross slide on centre?
> >> I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the
> >> revo
> >> can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
> >> Bill
> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
> >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
> >> Subject: REVO
> >>> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> >>> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> >>> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> >>> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> >>> ridge
> >>> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> >>> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
locking the knob does work to a point but if you don't keep an eye on it with vibration after a while it can work loose and the cross slide moves its not a great problem if you know to keep an eye on it and yes you could use the stops but I usually have one side set so you cant hit the rails with the cutter (when I move off to the side doing some cuts). which you also can easy do if your not watching there only 3 inches from centre to the rail so if your machining around a 2 inch diameter job say there not a lot of room. the other side I set on center to machine into.
but like I said all of this is not a problem if you know to watch for it its only happened the once through ignorance now I check the locked before every cut and it has never happened since
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: REVO
> Hi Mac and Bill,
> The carriage moving off of center is a good tip too. From the pictures I
> can see the revo has a knob that tightens the carriage from moving. I also
> know it has stops that are screwed in the side to prevent travel. If I > owned
> a Revo, I would lock the knob down AND set the stops against the carriage
> before making your spiral cut. Actually, I would probably add a lock like
> the one on the left side to the right side of the carriage as well.
> I'm real curious to see what the final answer is on this one.
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: REVO
>> Thank you, it has bushings but they are no were near worn out and when
> they
>> do Ill make my self new ones I have a steel turning lathe at home and im >> a
>> machinist by trade so im not worried about that but thanks for the heads
> up
>> Im always open to any suggestion or info from any one as you know we >> never
>> stop learning till we die
>> Bill
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
>> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: REVO
>> > Hay Bill
>> > dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
>> > My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I would
>> > get
>> > some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not
>> > constant.
>> > Just a friendly note. ;-)
>> > C.A.G.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
>> > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:20 AM
>> > Subject: Re: REVO
>> >> Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is
> your
>> >> cross slide on centre?
>> >> I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the
>> >> revo
>> >> can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
>> >> Bill
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
>> >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
>> >> Subject: REVO
>> >>> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
>> >>> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
>> >>> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
>> >>> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
>> >>> ridge
>> >>> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
>> >>> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
Point taken that it's good to be aware of the issue but...It's those things
kinds of things that need to be eliminated so simple errors don't happen.
Those are the little tiny things that ruin projects quickly.
I've been victim of my locking knob which is the same design as the revo
getting loose, that's why I added using the shaft collars and locking the
split nut on my machine when it really counts. The revo does not have all of
those options. Like I said, I would for sure add an extra lock knob. At
least some stop blocks that could act as shaft collars.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: REVO
> locking the knob does work to a point but if you don't keep an eye on it
> with vibration after a while it can work loose and the cross slide moves
its
> not a great problem if you know to keep an eye on it and yes you could use
> the stops but I usually have one side set so you cant hit the rails with
the
> cutter (when I move off to the side doing some cuts). which you also can
> easy do if your not watching there only 3 inches from centre to the rail
so
> if your machining around a 2 inch diameter job say there not a lot of
room.
> the other side I set on center to machine into.
> but like I said all of this is not a problem if you know to watch for it
its
> only happened the once through ignorance now I check the locked before
every
> cut and it has never happened since
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: REVO
> > Hi Mac and Bill,
> > The carriage moving off of center is a good tip too. From the pictures
I
> > can see the revo has a knob that tightens the carriage from moving. I
also
> > know it has stops that are screwed in the side to prevent travel. If I
> > owned
> > a Revo, I would lock the knob down AND set the stops against the
carriage
> > before making your spiral cut. Actually, I would probably add a lock
like
> > the one on the left side to the right side of the carriage as well.
> > I'm real curious to see what the final answer is on this one.
> > -Tim
> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: REVO
> >> Thank you, it has bushings but they are no were near worn out and when
> > they
> >> do Ill make my self new ones I have a steel turning lathe at home and
im
> >> a
> >> machinist by trade so im not worried about that but thanks for the
heads
> > up
> >> Im always open to any suggestion or info from any one as you know we
> >> never
> >> stop learning till we die
> >> Bill
> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
> >> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM
> >> Subject: Re: REVO
> >> > Hay Bill
> >> > dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
> >> > My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I
would
> >> > get
> >> > some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not
> >> > constant.
> >> > Just a friendly note. ;-)
> >> > C.A.G.
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> >> > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:20 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: REVO
> >> >> Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is
> > your
> >> >> cross slide on centre?
> >> >> I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved
the
> >> >> revo
> >> >> can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
> >> >> Bill
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "MACSWAG" <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
> >> >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30 AM
> >> >> Subject: REVO
> >> >>> Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> >> >>> some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I
seem
> >> >>> to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> >> >>> the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a
cut
> >> >>> ridge
> >> >>> on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of
the
> >> >>> curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,