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MACSWAG  
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From: MACSWAG <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:30:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:30 pm
Subject: REVO
Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
ridge
on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,

MAC.


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Tim Krause  
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From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:50:46 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Hi Mac,

Can you take photos and show the problem?  Are you starting from a round
piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit.  Which
router bit are you using, and how many starts?

-Tim


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Tim Krause  
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From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:56:21 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
One more thing,

There's a pretty good tutorial on Legacy's site:
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=2

Notice the diameter = pitch = width of cutter.

Lil Twisted is a real know it all on this topic.  Hopefully he will chime
in.

-Tim


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MACSWAG  
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From: MACSWAG <davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:05:42 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Hi TIM,looks like you have solved it for me without going out to the
shed,I will do this t/mrrow.this forum is invaluable,MAC.

On Nov 3, 11:56 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:


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LiLtwisted  
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From: LiLtwisted <legacym...@iglide.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:22:04 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: REVO

Chiiiiime

Thanks Tim

OK It's a math thing yeeeeaaaah

Pitch =  The distance the router travels when the stock revolves one
full revolution.
Bit =  the full swing measurement of the bit of choice.
Start= the number of time you are traveling down the rail

Pitch = Bit X Starts
Bit =  Pitch divided by Starts
Starts = Pitch divided by Bit

and so on
If things don't work on paper, they will either leave you a gap or will
be crowded.  All the way around.

The key though to your situation is the fact that you are getting
different results on opposite sides of the stock.  This would only mean
that you have an out of round piece.  Chuck it in, round it off and then
mill it.  if you still are getting a ridge, make sure your router is
straight up and down.  if it is set in crooked along the X , it will
leave a tapered cut.  This will be most visible with a bottom plane bit
used for rounding off stock.  Just set it in the machine and cut with it
on a 1-1/2" pitch.  Look at the cut to make sure it is cutting level.  
Let us know what you find out.

Mike


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Bill Bulkeley  
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From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:20:05 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 5:20 am
Subject: Re: REVO
Im not sure what you mean without a pic but just out of curiosity is your
cross slide on centre?
I had trouble with a spiral one time and my cross slide had moved the revo
can do this it isn't held by a leadscrew like the other models
Bill


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curt george  
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From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:51:32 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Hay Bill
dose the REVO have bushings or bearings?
My 1000ex use to have bushings, and when the bushings got worn, I would get
some weird errors with in my work. Like your flats.but it was not constant.
Just a friendly note.  ;-)

C.A.G.


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Bill Bulkeley  
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 More options Nov 4, 8:29 pm
From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:29:30 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Thank you, it has bushings but they are no were near worn out and when they
do Ill make my self new ones I have a steel turning lathe at home and im a
machinist by trade so im not worried about that but thanks for the heads up
Im always open to any suggestion or info from any one as you know we never
stop learning till we die

Bill


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Tim Krause  
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 More options Nov 4, 8:42 pm
From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:42:05 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Hi Mac and Bill,

The carriage moving off of center is a good tip too.  From the pictures I
can see the revo has a knob that tightens the carriage from moving. I also
know it has stops that are screwed in the side to prevent travel. If I owned
a Revo, I would lock the knob down AND set the stops against the carriage
before making your spiral cut.  Actually, I would probably add a lock like
the one on the left side to the right side of the carriage as well.

I'm real curious to see what the final answer is on this one.

-Tim

<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>


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Bill Bulkeley  
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From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:10 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
locking the knob does work to a point but if you don't keep an eye on it
with vibration after a while it can work loose and the cross slide moves its
not a great problem if you know to keep an eye on it and yes you could use
the stops but I usually have one side set so you cant hit the rails with the
cutter (when I move off to the side doing some cuts). which you also can
easy do if your not watching there only 3 inches from centre to the rail so
if your machining around a 2 inch diameter job say there not a lot of room.
the other side I set on center to machine into.
but like I said all of this is not a problem if you know to watch for it its
only happened the once through ignorance now I check the locked before every
cut and it has never happened since

Bill


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Tim Krause  
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 More options Nov 4, 9:35 pm
From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:35:39 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: REVO
Point taken that it's good to be aware of the issue but...It's those things
kinds of things that need to be eliminated so simple errors don't happen.
Those are the little tiny things that ruin projects quickly.

I've been victim of my locking knob which is the same design as the revo
getting loose, that's why I added using the shaft collars and locking the
split nut on my machine when it really counts. The revo does not have all of
those options.  Like I said, I would for sure add an extra lock knob. At
least some stop blocks that could act as shaft collars.

-Tim


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