Outline missing
mamamadre
else that I have to do? Or maybe didn't do? http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Karen6095
Thanks,
Karen
Patricia Schlicht
Thanks for your note. Have a look on your user page
Warm regards,
Patricia
Gita
See what I tried on your page & I think I have found the solution to
your problem.
Gita Mathur
mamamadre
starting that Outlline block for me. I just couldn't figure it out. I
looked at your user page and it is absolutely brilliant! I really
enjoyed the visual effect as well as reading about everything that you
do. Thank you so much for being my wiki helper.
Best regards,
Karen
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Gita
It is a pleasure to interact and help each other. By doing so we learn
more. I am grateful to you for visiting my page and liking the efforts
I have put in. Keep interacting....that is what WikiEducator is all
about. Gradually we will get to developing more content. With your
experience and keen nature we will be befitted.
Best Regards
Gita Mathur
Patricia Schlicht
I would like to say thanks to Gita and Karen for setting an example of how collaboration could look like. Even though this is a first step, others may follow that lead to new content developments.
I encourage others to look for a "Wiki Buddy" in the true sense, to pair up with, to support and assist each other, if not in this workshop, certainly after the workshop. We will be here as well to help you with whatever question you might have but as with all good things, the workshop is soon coming to an end.
Have you signed up for the Wiki Mailing list already? http://www.wikieducator.org (see at the top)
This will enable you to stay in touch with the new developments of the project and also will provide you with access to a wonderful supportive group of like-minded people who help each other and in the process others in the development community.
NELLIE DEUTSCH
I would like to bring up a discussion question on helping vs. doing things for someone else and the value of both for learning. In addition, I would be interested in your thoughts on the following:
1. Is there a fine line to collaboration and interference?
2. How free or at liberty are we to make changes on others' pages?
3. Should there be some kind of agreement/s on the process of collaborating on WE?
4. What would work for you?
Thank you.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C15
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller
Hallam Hope
Hi Nellie,I am grateful for changes made by Patricia and would prefer if the assigned instructors be the ones to do so. I am a bit sensitive when it comes to aesthetics and correct use of language.However this does not mean that I would not collaborate with an individual and work closely on code with them to help them develop their pages. There should be an understanding between anyone making changes, but this would not apply to the assigned instructors Nellie and Patricia.Hallam
Hallam Hope
Hallam here.Is there a space limit for the amount of material that can go into the sandbox?Or maybe my browser is playing repeated tricks on me.Hallam
Patricia Schlicht
Dear Hallam,
There is no space limit on any of the pages on WikiEducator. I would however recommend that if you are developing materials, to either link your user page to the Wiki Content page under the relevant subject matter, if it exists or create a new link and page under a new subject area you assign on the Content page.
For instance: http://www.wikieducator.org/Chemistry. Have a look at content page and you will know what I mean http://www.wikieducator.org/Content If you still have questions, please do not hesitate to write.
Warm regards,
Patricia
Patricia Schlicht
Dear Hallam,
Being new to the Open Source Software movement as you are, I appreciate your comments. Please note however that the ability to make changes, add/delete or enhance also your contribution, and not only done by the instructors, is exactly what we do. This is the wiki way. It is a transparent open process for anyone to see or add to, which under the best circumstances will make your end product even better. We work collaboratively and anyone can make changes to any page. Good intentions are taken for granted as most people go into documents to perform an enhancement task. You will always have the option to revert the changes, if you don’t agree or compare previous and current versions under the history tab. You also have the option to put your content on your own watchlist, which will alert you to any changes made on your page(s).
You as a member of the community will be able to do the same on other pages. I know it will take some getting used to because this way of thinking/concept is new and because we are are used to or are still working in closed environments but working in the wiki way is exactly the beauty of an open content development for a better outcome.
Warm regards,
Patricia
Hallam Hope
Thanks to all comments. Will review.Hallam
NELLIE DEUTSCH
Thank you for your feedback.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C15
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller
Jenni
Hi Nellie
I couldn’t see a discussion on the Groups page…so I assume I just respond to this email?
See me comments below
Cheers jennip
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[mailto:learning4cont...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of NELLIE DEUTSCH
Sent: Wednesday, 3 December 2008
10:17 PM
To: learning4cont...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [eL4C15] Re: Outline
missing
Hi Everyone,
I would like to bring up a discussion question on helping vs. doing things for
someone else and the value of both for learning. In addition, I would be
interested in your thoughts on the following:
1. Is there a fine line to collaboration and interference? Yes because our perception of something will be
different to another person’s perception of the same thing. That is what
makes the world and interacting with others so interesting!
2. How free or at liberty are we to make changes on others' pages? Wikis are all about collaboration and
my understanding is that everyone is at liberty to add or change any page. However,
having said this, our own user page may be a slightly different case, as it is
a personal expression of ourself. For example: if I wrote something about
myself such as “My name is Jenni Parker and I live in Perth, WA” and
someone amended the content to …”Perth, Western Australia” I
might be offended because the words I use to describe myself are my choice. However
I may also reflect on it and think to myself, “well, yes that is better
because maybe some people don’t know that “WA” is the
shortened term for “Western
Australia”. So on this page…maybe it is
better not to change but to recommend improvements ie: add suggestions
3. Should there be some kind of agreement/s on the process of collaborating on
WE? I think maybe there just
needs to be some clear guidelines for people new to wiki’s about what is
acceptable etiquette for collaborating (especially when you didn’t start
the page). I am new to wiki’s and I am very hestitant about editing others
pages. For example: I’ve added my name to the “ELearning_T4T”
project – which has a list of participants at the top of the page (which
I like, because I like to know who I am collaborating with), but now what do I
do from here? Should I contact the course creator? Do I just add what I
think appropriate? What is the accepted “norm” in this situation? Also
on the Contents page, there is a link to a course about HRM, this course
includes a section on Training & Development (which is my field of
knowledge). Not much has been added to this page and some of the information
(from my perspective – from Australia) is not correct. This
course has no participant list nor an invitation to join. If I wanted to collaborate
do I just edit this page…or should I contact the originator and discuss
it - what is the accepted etiquette?
4. What would work for you? Some
simple guidelines (suggestions) for collaborating – see above. Maybe they
already exist & I haven’t come across them yet.
NELLIE DEUTSCH
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C15
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller
mamamadre
I absolutely agree with you! You have said this the best possible way.
I think that if someone wants to make a change of any kind, there
should be some professional discourse first. At least contact the user
before going in. It is a little like me walking into your house and re-
arranging your kitchen because I think my way of organizing is better
- not! And I totally agree that it should be the instructors or
someone with instructor status that has at least been in contact.
Karen
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I would like to say thanks to Gita and Karen for setting an example of how collaboration could look like. Even though this is a first step, others may follow that lead to new content developments.
>
> I encourage others to look for a "Wiki Buddy" in the true sense, to pair up with, to support and assist each other, if not in this workshop, certainly after the workshop. We will be here as well to help you with whatever question you might have but as with all good things, the workshop is soon coming to an end.
>
Chris Babowal
> 2. How free or at liberty are we to make changes on others' pages? I have requested a change to a page a while ago. The history was incorrect. I wrote the author providing references and made suggested text. He was very happy to update his information and was glad to have the reference. He used my suggested text and gave me credit. I do not feel that someone should make changes without a reason and no one should just make changes without informing the author and providing references to show that the change is necessary.
> 3. Should there be some kind of agreement/s on the process of collaborating on WE? Yes. In teaching there are lots of methods and theories. One can disagree with the method/theory and the lesson can still be accurate. It might be nice to add additional methods and theories but that does not mean that the original lesson needed to be edited.
> 4. What would work for you? I think that it is reasonable for an author to be informed, provided resources or references to show that the changes being suggested are needed and valid. The changes then could be made by either party.
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From: mamamadre <kare...@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:47:04 AM
Simon S Maseko
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NELLIE DEUTSCH
Thank you for the update on the situation in your area. Technology is still not 100% all of the time, but hopefully it will get there. :) Of course you can go on with the course, return and do it again on your own. You also welcome to join future courses.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C15
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller
manuelse...@gmail.com
I updated my user's page: mserrano34 and I added a new network at wikieducator: the GASMS. I think, we can provide marketing for wikieducator from our plattform. I would ask to you your counseling to implement our project too and to learn more about wikieducator. Thanks a lot,
Manuel
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From: "NELLIE DEUTSCH"
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 04:44:26 -0700
NELLIE DEUTSCH
Your page looks fantastic. You are very creative. I like the menu you added to the page.
I will be very happy to collaborate with you on your project.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C15
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller