For a book contribution, I have been sent formatting instruction as MS
Word screenshots, which I am "translating" to Latex. Most parameters are
quite straigthforward, but the interline space isn't. I am supposed to use
11pt at single space. But what is single spacing in MS Word (in point or
big points, I mean)? I found an official Microsoft document which says
that, starting with MS Word 2007, single line has been increased to "1.15
lines" from the previous standard of "1.0 lines". But it does not define
what a "line" is (see text copied below), although the text implies it is
not the font's x-height.
I do have a camera ready sample pdf I was sent, but I do not have a
typographer's ruler, so I am proceeding by trial and error. I tried 1 line
= 12pt (as in the 11/12 rather common spacing), t/f single spacing =
12*1.15=13.8 pt. But it is too wide, whereas 11pt*1.15 is too narrow.
has anyone ever faced this issue?
Help appreciated.
Thanks,
Stefano
------------from the Microsft Word blog:
But, of course the line spacing in the new template *is* single spacing.
It's just that it's a little bit "more" than single spacing used to be:
1.15, instead of 1.0. But what is 1.0? You might think that if you're using
an 11-point font that line spacing of 1.0 would be 11 points. But if you
lay out paragraphs that way – depending on the font you're using – the
parts that stick below one line will crash into the parts that stick up
from the line below. You need to allow *some *extra space between lines. In
a former life when I set type on a Compugraphic phototypesetting machine,
the convention we used was about 20% extra space, so we'd set 10-point type
on a 12-point line. Larger fonts demanded more breathing room. This was at
a newspaper, so we spaced things a bit tighter than you'd expect to see in,
say, a report or a brochure (or, dare I say… a *professional looking *
document).
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As a point of departure, the following posts on TeX.SE might be of interest:
- Setting a document in MS Word-12pt (12bp) <http://goo.gl/55uJz>
- How can I convert from Microsoft Word to a LaTeX document<http://goo.gl/Itc1O>
- Making a LaTeX document appear as though it were typeset in MS
Word<http://goo.gl/ekR1i>
The first one suggests the difference in point size between (La)TeX and MS
Word.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:32 AM, stefano franchi <stefano.fran...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> For a book contribution, I have been sent formatting instruction as MS
> Word screenshots, which I am "translating" to Latex. Most parameters are
> quite straigthforward, but the interline space isn't. I am supposed to use
> 11pt at single space. But what is single spacing in MS Word (in point or
> big points, I mean)? I found an official Microsoft document which says
> that, starting with MS Word 2007, single line has been increased to "1.15
> lines" from the previous standard of "1.0 lines". But it does not define
> what a "line" is (see text copied below), although the text implies it is
> not the font's x-height.
> I do have a camera ready sample pdf I was sent, but I do not have a
> typographer's ruler, so I am proceeding by trial and error. I tried 1 line
> = 12pt (as in the 11/12 rather common spacing), t/f single spacing =
> 12*1.15=13.8 pt. But it is too wide, whereas 11pt*1.15 is too narrow.
> has anyone ever faced this issue?
> Help appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Stefano
> ------------from the Microsft Word blog:
> But, of course the line spacing in the new template *is* single spacing.
> It's just that it's a little bit "more" than single spacing used to be:
> 1.15, instead of 1.0. But what is 1.0? You might think that if you're using
> an 11-point font that line spacing of 1.0 would be 11 points. But if you
> lay out paragraphs that way – depending on the font you're using – the
> parts that stick below one line will crash into the parts that stick up
> from the line below. You need to allow *some *extra space between lines.
> In a former life when I set type on a Compugraphic phototypesetting
> machine, the convention we used was about 20% extra space, so we'd set
> 10-point type on a 12-point line. Larger fonts demanded more breathing
> room. This was at a newspaper, so we spaced things a bit tighter than you'd
> expect to see in, say, a report or a brochure (or, dare I say… a *professional
> looking *document).
> --
> __________________________________________________
> Stefano Franchi
> Associate Research Professor
> Department of Hispanic Studies Ph: +1 (979) 845-2125
> Texas A&M University Fax: +1 (979) 845-6421
> College Station, Texas, USA
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:32 PM, stefano franchi
<stefano.fran...@gmail.com>wrote:
> For a book contribution, I have been sent formatting instruction as MS
> Word screenshots, which I am "translating" to Latex. Most parameters are
> quite straigthforward, but the interline space isn't. I am supposed to use
> 11pt at single space.
What do they mean by "single space" anyway? It's not a meaningful term in
typography.
> But what is single spacing in MS Word (in point or big points, I mean)?
I assume, in the absence of any proper information, that they mean 11pt on
the baseline that Word uses, as you seem to have deduced:
> I found an official Microsoft document which says that, starting with MS
> Word 2007, single line has been increased to "1.15 lines" from the previous
> standard of "1.0 lines". But it does not define what a "line" is (see text
> copied below), although the text implies it is not the font's x-height.
In this case it means the point size, and that means 11bp. So their "single
space" means 12.65bp as the line-spacing, eg \fontsize{11.04}{12.7}
expressed in printers' points.
> I do have a camera ready sample pdf I was sent, but I do not have a
> typographer's ruler, so I am proceeding by trial and error. I tried 1 line
> = 12pt (as in the 11/12 rather common spacing), t/f single spacing =
> 12*1.15=13.8 pt. But it is too wide, whereas 11pt*1.15 is too narrow.
"A line" when referring to body copy always means "at the body font size",
so it means 11bp.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{mathptmx}
\begin{document}
\fontsize{11.04}{12.7}\selectfont
This would be their idea of 11bp Times ``single-spaced'', by which
they apparently mean ``on a 1.15 factor baseline''. This computes to
11.04pt/12.7pt in \TeX's terms.
\end{document}
