Invading Yorkshire

[Colin Adams]

I just discovered that the two sites we visited on Sunday are in Yorkshire Mid-west (VC64) according to the Watsonian vice-county boundaries shown in Living Record. So I don't get to verify my own records in this case. I have to send them abroad.

Anyway, I guess that answers the unasked question of the geographical scope of this group - it must be new Lancashire rather than old Lancashire. Furness is covered by VC69 (with Westmorland). 

[allen holmes]

Colin,          I use the East Lancs club boundaries because I have always put my records on their forum.I think the boundary is the top of the hill northwards where it becomes Lancaster and district area.See ELOC website for map.I can understand the Cross of Greet site being contentious as moth records seem to be in Yorks but I am sure that Clitheroe and Grindleton have always been in Lancs!       After 40 yrs of writing grid refs,it is the first time I have got them the wrong way round.It is a bit concerning at my age as I always wonder if it is the start of something!                Allen.    PS I think Steve  White put my Cross of Greet records in report for Lancs but perhaps he does not know the area and just assumed they were in Lancs. --- On Tue, 17/7/12, Colin Adams <colinpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Colin Adams]

The map shows Clitheroe and Chatburn as just inside Lancashire South VC59, But Waddington, Grindleton and Sawley as just across the border.

Likewise Barnoldswick is shown as being in Yorkshire, and that was certainly the case prior to the reorganization, so I suspect it is correct generally.

Anyway, we have them now.

[Steve White]

Allen/Colin et al,

 

Hmmm boundaries!

 

As far as the BDS is concerned I am the notional recorder for VC59 and VC60. In practice that means I have been collating records from some areas of Greater Manchester and passing them on to the BDS.

 

However, in reality the area we have been concerned with for the purposes of the 'Lancashire' atlas is the current 'political' Lancashire plus North Merseyside, which does include a small area of VC64, all (I think) of VC60 and some of VC59.

 

This fits with the bird recording area of the Lancashire & Cheshire Fauna Society - not entirely sure which boundaries Butterfly Conservation uses.

 

I would favour sticking to those LCFS boundaries. This would fit with the ELOC recording area in the east - although part of that is in the West Yorkshire BTO area!

 

I certainly don't think the group should be too concerned about covering whole vice-counties - that would drag in too much of Greater Manchester in my view.

 

Colin - I will get the promised postings re the atlas and recording issues out asap but am still very busy.

 

Cheers,

 

Steve White.

 

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