No April sightings for me

[Colin Adams]

For the first year since I started looking in 2006, I've not seen any Large Red Damselflies in April.

I suppose it was to be expected.

[Phil Smith]

Colin,

         Same on the Sefton Coast; very few insects about and certainly no Odonata.

 

Phil.

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[Allen Holmes]

On July 13th,Mark Breaks counted 9 Golden Ringed Dragonflies inc 1 female ovipositing at Cross of Greet,Bowland.

 On July 17th,Graham Gavaghan recorded 2 male Black Tailed Skimmers at Lower Towneley Scrape,Burnley. This is a scarce species in East Lancs.

             Allen Holmes.

[Allen Holmes]

On July 13th,Mark Breaks counted 9 Golden Ringed Dragonflies inc 1 female ovipositing at Cross of Greet,Bowland.

 On July 17th,Graham Gavaghan recorded 2 male Black Tailed Skimmers at Lower Towneley Scrape,Burnley. This is a scarce species in East Lancs.

             Allen Holmes.

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[Allen Holmes]

On July 27th,2013 1 male Common Hawker at Cant Clough res,Burnley SD897308 and on July 30.2013,  1 male Common Hawker at Shedden Clough,Burnley.SD893307.

                      Allen Holmes.

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[Allen Holmes]

A male Keeled Skimmer was photographed today.8/8/13. at Grindleton pond nr Clitheroe.SD749476.

            The identification has been confirmed by several Lancashire observers.

               A first record for East Lancs and possibly a first for Lancs but awaiting conformation!

             Allen Holmes.

 

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[Steve White]

Allen,

 

No previous Lancashire records. But I think it occurs in both Cheshire and Cumbria.

 

Excellent record.

 

Steve.

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[Colin Adams]

It certainly occurs in Cumbria on the moors. I hope to see some myself tomorrow in Eskdale.

It seems very odd that it isn't widespread in East Lancashire. But we seem to be a hole in the distribution of many species.

[Allen Holmes]

I saw a possible briefly at Langden Valley many years ago at one of the GRD sites but,despite searching over many years,I didn`t manage to confirm it.

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It certainly occurs in Cumbria on the moors. I hope to see some myself tomorrow in Eskdale.

It seems very odd that it isn't widespread in East Lancashire. But we seem to be a hole in the distribution of many species.

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Allen,

 

No previous Lancashire records. But I think it occurs in both Cheshire and Cumbria.

 

Excellent record.

 

Steve.

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[Steve White]

Allen,

 

This brings the total number of species confirmed in Lancashire & North Merseyside to 24. Knock one off (Red-eyed Damselfly) for Lancashire alone.

 

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[Colin Adams]

Does that include the Vagrant Emperor mentioned in the BDS journal the other year? I was never clear if it was a definite sighting or a possibility?

[Steve White]

Colin et al,

 

What I regard as the confirmed list is copied below.

 

Doesn't include Vagrant Emperor. (Colin, can you remind me of the details of this - it ought to be recorded even if not confirmed).

 

Let me know if  the list doesn't look correct/complete.

 

Other species that have been claimed include Hairy Hawker and Variable Damselfly but neither has been confirmed.

 

All the best,

 

Steve.

 

Azure Damselfly

Banded Demoiselle

Beautiful Demoiselle

Black Darter

Black-Tailed Skimmer

Blue-Tailed Damselfly

Broad-Bodied Chaser

Brown Hawker

Common Blue Damselfly

Common Darter

Common Hawker

Emerald Damselfly

Emperor Dragonfly

Four-spotted Chaser

Golden-ringed Dragonfly

Keeled Skimmer

Large Red Damselfly

Lesser Emperor

Migrant Hawker

Red-eyed Damselfly

Red-veined Darter

Ruddy Darter

Southern Hawker

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[Colin Adams]

JBDS volume 28 Number 2 October 2012 lists it as a `possible`. From memory, it was in May near Bolton.

[Allen Holmes]

A Keeled Skimmer in May in the north sounds highly improbable Perhaps it was a Broad Bodied Chaser..I think I will stick with mine being the first!

          AH.

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Does that include the Vagrant Emperor mentioned in the BDS journal the other year? I was never clear if it was a definite sighting or a possibility?

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Allen,

 

This brings the total number of species confirmed in Lancashire & North Merseyside to 24. Knock one off (Red-eyed Damselfly) for Lancashire alone.

 

Steve.

 

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[Colin Adams]

We were talking about a vagrant emperor.

[Allen Holmes]

Sorry Colin,your heading said Keeled Skimmer.

[Allen Holmes]

As an update to this record, a male Keeled Skimmer was recorded at Spurn Bird  Observatory on 16/7/13 which was a first record for the reserve and only the second for VC61 so,presumably,some kind of movement of what is regarded as a sedentary species.

       Allen Holmes.

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Does that include the Vagrant Emperor mentioned in the BDS journal the other year? I was never clear if it was a definite sighting or a possibility?

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Allen,

 

This brings the total number of species confirmed in Lancashire & North Merseyside to 24. Knock one off (Red-eyed Damselfly) for Lancashire alone.

 

Steve.

 

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[Steve White]

Allen,

 

Just been speaking with Pete Marsh who records that area for moths.

 

He says that Cross of Greet straddles the boundary of VCs60 & 64 - just to make things even more complicated.

 

One more reason as far as I'm concerned simply to record by grid reference and political boundary.

 

All the best,

 

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[Colin Adams]

The cross itself probably does. But the dragonfly site is clearly in VC64.

Not that that makes any difference to your point.

[Allen Holmes]

Thanks Steve,I agree with you.

      Incidentally,Grindleton pond has been superb for dragonflies recently.Min 6 Common Hawkers and excellent photographic opportunities of this species.Possibly 100 Emerald damselflies and same number of Black Darters.

                   Allen.

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Allen,

 

Just been speaking with Pete Marsh who records that area for moths.

 

He says that Cross of Greet straddles the boundary of VCs60 & 64 - just to make things even more complicated.

 

One more reason as far as I'm concerned simply to record by grid reference and political boundary.

 

All the best,

 

Steve.

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[Phil Smith]

Allen,

         Where is Grindleton Pond? I can't find it on an OS map.

[Colin Adams]

I assume Allen is talking about Levi Well, which is actually in Grindleton Forest, rather than Grindleton itself. This is grid reference SD744475.

[Allen Holmes]

Phil,

 It  is  not shown on the map as a pond.It is sometimes known as Levi Well.

   It is on the edge of Grindleton forest on the south side.It is a series of 5 ponds going into the forest but becoming more bog and sphagnum moss and runnels as it goes into the forest.

SD749476.

                 If anyone wants to go,I can give directions.

                           Allen.

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[Allen Holmes]

ApologiesMy map shows the forest as it was before they felled a lot of the trees so it is SD746476.

      Allen.

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[Allen Holmes]

Phil,

 It  is  not shown on the map as a pond.It is sometimes known as Levi Well.

   It is on the edge of Grindleton forest on the south side.It is a series of 5 ponds going into the forest but becoming more bog and sphagnum moss and runnels as it goes into the forest.

SD749476.

                 If anyone wants to go,I can give directions.

                           Allen.

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[Phil Smith]

Allen,

          Thanks; I can see it on Google Earth.  Are there any access restrictions?

[Allen Holmes]

Phil,

     No none at all.Just park at the barrier and walk down the track.The land is owned by UU.

                 Wellingtons recommended.

                            Allen.

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[Phil Smith]

Allen,

         Sorry to be a nuisance.  Where is the barrier? How far is the walk?

[Allen Holmes]

Phil,

             The barrier is at the edge of the forest.It doesn`t block you but the track down is very rough and may damage your car.The walkis only 50-100 yds and the site is obvious when you get there.

When you drive up through Grindleton be sure to take straight track at the very sharp right hand bend about a mile above the pubs and the rest is straightforward.

[Phil Smith]

Allen,

          Many thanks.

[Allen Holmes]

I had a reliable report today of a Golden Ringed Dragonfly in June this year at Twiston moor near Pendle Hill. It was on private property. I don`t know of any other records outside Bowland.

            Perhaps Steve can help with that.

                  It seems to have been an excellent year for Common Hawker.I have seen them at a few new sites.

           Allen Holmes.

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Does that include the Vagrant Emperor mentioned in the BDS journal the other year? I was never clear if it was a definite sighting or a possibility?

On 8 August 2013 21:42, Steve White <stevew...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Allen,

 

This brings the total number of species confirmed in Lancashire & North Merseyside to 24. Knock one off (Red-eyed Damselfly) for Lancashire alone.

 

Steve.

 

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[Steve White]

Allen,

 

There are a handful of records outside of Bowland.

 

I have 6 records in SD47 and one site in SD57 in north Lancashire (possibly within the Bowland AONB but outside the SSSI) but none more recent than 1990.

 

Also 3 from the West Pennine Moors (SD61), most recently in 2006 but with little evidence that there is a regular population there - certainly Steve Martin has not seen any since 1987.

 

Plus two records in Rossendale (SD82), most recently in 1993 but I believe they're still found on the Yorkshire side of the South Pennines.

 

Could you let me have a grid reference and recorder's name for this Twiston record.

 

All the best,

 

Steve.

 

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Subject: [lancashire-dragonflies] Golden Ringed Dragonfly .East Lancs.

[Allen Holmes]

Steve,

   Many thanks for the Golden Ringed info.

          The recorders name is Steve Oyston and the grid ref is SD819434.

                 The only date I have is June 2013.

                         Allen Holmes.

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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [lancashire-dragonflies] Golden Ringed Dragonfly .East Lancs.

Allen,

 

There are a handful of records outside of Bowland.

 

I have 6 records in SD47 and one site in SD57 in north Lancashire (possibly within the Bowland AONB but outside the SSSI) but none more recent than 1990.

 

Also 3 from the West Pennine Moors (SD61), most recently in 2006 but with little evidence that there is a regular population there - certainly Steve Martin has not seen any since 1987.

 

Plus two records in Rossendale (SD82), most recently in 1993 but I believe they're still found on the Yorkshire side of the South Pennines.

 

Could you let me have a grid reference and recorder's name for this Twiston record.

 

All the best,

 

Steve.

 

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[Allen Holmes]

Steve,

          When I e mailed you this morning,I hadn`t heard back from Dave Oyston but he has since e mailed me and the date is June !9th.2013.The correct grid ref is SD825433.

                Allen.

[Allen Holmes]

On 26/9/13, I photographed 2 male Southern Hawkers at Hurstwood pond near Burnley.I saw them both together but when I looked at the images they both had marks on their antehumeral stripes making it possible to identify them individually.

                 I returned to the pond on 27/9/13 and again 2 males were present along with a female.When I observed the males at rest and photographed them,I saw that they were both different individuals than the previous day.

           If the first 2 had not had markings on their thorax,I would have assumed that they were the same 2.

          The second 2 had no such markings so I will be unable to tell if more males are involved.

                                         Allen Holmes. 27/9/13.

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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:35 PM

Subject: RE: [lancashire-dragonflies] Golden Ringed Dragonfly .East Lancs.

Allen,

 

There are a handful of records outside of Bowland.

 

I have 6 records in SD47 and one site in SD57 in north Lancashire (possibly within the Bowland AONB but outside the SSSI) but none more recent than 1990.

 

Also 3 from the West Pennine Moors (SD61), most recently in 2006 but with little evidence that there is a regular population there - certainly Steve Martin has not seen any since 1987.

 

Plus two records in Rossendale (SD82), most recently in 1993 but I believe they're still found on the Yorkshire side of the South Pennines.

 

Could you let me have a grid reference and recorder's name for this Twiston record.

 

All the best,

 

Steve.

 

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[Colin Adams]

Can we see the photos of the two with individual marks?

[Allen Holmes]

Colin,

               This group page won`t allow me to send them if it is over 8.0 so I will e mail you the pics privately.

   Allen.

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[Allen Holmes]

I have resized the photos so I will try again.

                     26/9/13.

                                   Allen.

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[Allen Holmes]

Another male Southern Hawker was with distinctive markings on the antehumeral stripes was photographed today at Hurstwood pond near Burnley.28/9/13.

          5 were present today.4 male,1 female and a pair in tandem.

                I think this photo shows that at least 5 males are present at the site.

                                           Allen Holmes. 28/9/13.

[Phil Smith]

Allen,

         Male Black Darter (Sympetrum danae) in the Birkdale frontal dunes (slack no. 47) this afternoon, the first I have seen on the coast since 2008.

 

Phil Smith (28/09/2013)

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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:50 PM

Subject: Re: [lancashire-dragonflies] Southern Hawkers.

[Allen Holmes]

After seeing 2 Lestes sponsa at Hurstwood pond on 27/9/13,which I thought were quite late,I saw 1 male at Grindleton pond near Clitheroe on 29/9/13.

            I thought this may be a late date for Lancashire.

    Also present;  2 male Common Hawker.

   20+ Black Darter inc several prs ovipositing.

         10+ Common Darter inc few prs ovipositing..

                          Allen Holmes.

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[Steve White]

The latest I have a record of was at Cowm Reservoir on 7/10/2007 but this is the second latest.

 

Steve White.

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Subject: [lancashire-dragonflies] Late Lestes sponsa.