--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com> > Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu > To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:56 PM > Ok so anyone who can pull out "I > helped capture the enigma" will win the oldest computer > contest, and more than likely the oldest person on this list > contest ;-p
Or "I helped build the original Difference Engine", though in that case it would more likely be "my granddad helped...".
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:08, Leo Mauler <webgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
> > To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:56 PM
> > Ok so anyone who can pull out "I
> > helped capture the enigma" will win the oldest computer
> > contest, and more than likely the oldest person on this list
> > contest ;-p
> Or "I helped build the original Difference Engine", though in that case it
> would more likely be "my granddad helped...".
I think you objected too much in 'Nam-Shub of Niggurath Considered Harmful' and 'Antipodean Mineral Gasses Set To Replce Alkaloids' around the release of RFC -16484. Maybe you can help fill in the gaps in the history around 1330, about which I have some questions.... Also looking for actionable knowledge about environmental CO2 and conditions before 10 Million BC.
RF> On my last trip to B.C.E. times, I fabricated the Antikythera device ;P
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:08, Leo > Mauler <webgi...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > From: Daniel Matthis <daniel.matt...@gmail.com> > > Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu > > To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com > > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:56 PM
> > Ok so anyone who can pull out "I > > helped capture the enigma" will win the oldest > computer > > contest, and more than likely the oldest person on > this list > > contest ;-p
> Or "I helped build the original Difference > Engine", though in that case it would more likely be > "my granddad helped...".
Have to jump in to share a completely obvious realization that is core
to the human condition...
The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits' -- I love words.
Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
I would wager, though not a betting man, that a hypothesis that the 10
number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the fact that we have ten
fingers... Stupid, I know. So insanely obvious but still, how many
people are completely oblivious to the connection between the two?
5138008
turn that upside down... >;-P>
l8r,
Chris
On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com> wrote:
> Have to jump in to share a completely obvious realization that is core
> to the human condition...
> The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits' -- I love words.
> Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> I would wager, though not a betting man, that a hypothesis that the 10
> number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the fact that we have ten
> fingers... Stupid, I know. So insanely obvious but still, how many
> people are completely oblivious to the connection between the two?
> 5138008
> turn that upside down... >;-P>
> l8r,
> Chris
> On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com> wrote:
> > Leo Mauler wrote:
> > > While you certainly score points, is a non-programmable calculator really anything more than a frilly abacus?
> > If you turn it upside-down, you can type hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> > your schmancy-pants abacus.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM, johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have to jump in to share a completely obvious realization that is core
> to the human condition...
> The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits' -- I love words.
> Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> I would wager, though not a betting man, that a hypothesis that the 10
> number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the fact that we have ten
> fingers... Stupid, I know. So insanely obvious but still, how many
> people are completely oblivious to the connection between the two?
> 5138008
> turn that upside down... >;-P>
> l8r,
> Chris
> On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com> wrote:
>> Leo Mauler wrote:
>> > While you certainly score points, is a non-programmable calculator really anything more than a frilly abacus?
>> If you turn it upside-down, you can type hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
>> your schmancy-pants abacus.
There is some evidence for the base 10 numerics derives from 10 fingers
hypothesis, as the Mayans had 6 fingers as a very common mutation, and used
a base 12 system.
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 06:55, Kendric Beachey <kendric.beac...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Not sure I ever saw this one broadcast as a kid, but it's on the DVD
> that my kids have watched a thousand times. :-)
> Kendric Beachey
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM, johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Have to jump in to share a completely obvious realization that is core
> > to the human condition...
> > The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> > 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits' -- I love words.
> > Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> > I would wager, though not a betting man, that a hypothesis that the 10
> > number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the fact that we have ten
> > fingers... Stupid, I know. So insanely obvious but still, how many
> > people are completely oblivious to the connection between the two?
> > 5138008
> > turn that upside down... >;-P>
> > l8r,
> > Chris
> > On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com> wrote:
> >> Leo Mauler wrote:
> >> > While you certainly score points, is a non-programmable calculator
> really anything more than a frilly abacus?
> >> If you turn it upside-down, you can type hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> >> your schmancy-pants abacus.
It is interesting to note that, while there is an obvious connection
between ten fingers and the base ten number system, some ancients would
disagree. That is, it is only an historical accident that we ended up
with a base ten system based on ten fingers. For example, ancient
Babylonians counted on a base twelve system, since there are twelve
bones in the four fingers of one hand. This is why there are twenty
four hours in a day. Since base 60 was also used (Note sure why) we
have sixty minutes in an hour, etc.
> Not sure I ever saw this one broadcast as a kid, but it's on the DVD
> that my kids have watched a thousand times. :-)
> Kendric Beachey
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM, johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Have to jump in to share a completely obvious realization that is core
> > to the human condition...
> > The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> > 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits' -- I love words.
> > Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> > I would wager, though not a betting man, that a hypothesis that the 10
> > number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the fact that we have ten
> > fingers... Stupid, I know. So insanely obvious but still, how many
> > people are completely oblivious to the connection between the two?
> > 5138008
> > turn that upside down... >;-P>
> > l8r,
> > Chris
> > On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com> wrote:
> >> Leo Mauler wrote:
> >> > While you certainly score points, is a non-programmable calculator really anything more than a frilly abacus?
> >> If you turn it upside-down, you can type hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> >> your schmancy-pants abacus.
GPS signals and antennas, sodium I-lines, MEMS oscillators, trigonometry, figure composition and constructive geometry; if only they fit in the first-grade curiculum, much better schedule design. Nontrivial mappings (where arabesques are trivial in most cases) with canniness for the age-5 set are perhaps an open problem? As long as the game doesn't have stats and modifiers for artificial light spectrum, specific cross-sections (or mapwise proximity to) government...number of Dwarves taken by a Fey Mood, etc.
This fits awesomely of course with the agricultural epicyclical awareness implicit in (attribution anon. I think): Babies are born with a spot-on sensibility for garden landscaping, but lose it within the first few months.
The most likely progression was that the first numeral system was base-10, because we all have ten fingers. When mathematicians came up with the concept of base-12, and discovered it was easier to "do math" in base-12 (it is, actually), they quickly adopted base-12.
The reason why this was the logical progression is that base-60 comes about when you merge base-10 and base-12. With both number systems in use, eventually some mathematician is going to try and combine the two during his coffee break.
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com>
> Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
> To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:09 AM
> It is interesting to note that, while there is an obvious
> connection
> between ten fingers and the base ten number system, some
> ancients would
> disagree. That is, it is only an historical accident
> that we ended up
> with a base ten system based on ten fingers. For
> example, ancient
> Babylonians counted on a base twelve system, since there
> are twelve
> bones in the four fingers of one hand. This is why
> there are twenty
> four hours in a day. Since base 60 was also used
> (Note sure why) we
> have sixty minutes in an hour, etc.
> > Not sure I ever saw this one broadcast as a kid, but
> it's on the DVD
> > that my kids have watched a thousand times. :-)
> > Kendric Beachey
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM, johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Have to jump in to share a completely obvious
> realization that is core
> > > to the human condition...
> > > The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> > > 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits'
> -- I love words.
> > > Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> > > I would wager, though not a betting man, that a
> hypothesis that the 10
> > > number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the
> fact that we have ten
> > > fingers... Stupid, I know. So
> insanely obvious but still, how many
> > > people are completely oblivious to the connection
> between the two?
> > > 5138008
> > > turn that upside down... >;-P>
> > > l8r,
> > > Chris
> > > On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Leo Mauler wrote:
> > >> > While you certainly score points, is a
> non-programmable calculator really anything more than a
> frilly abacus?
> > >> If you turn it upside-down, you can type
> hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> > >> your schmancy-pants abacus.
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Leo Mauler <webgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Leo Mauler <webgi...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:20 PM
The most likely progression was that the first numeral system was base-10, because we all have ten fingers. When mathematicians came up with the concept of base-12, and discovered it was easier to "do math" in base-12 (it is, actually), they quickly adopted base-12.
The reason why this was the logical progression is that base-60 comes about when you merge base-10 and base-12. With both number systems in use, eventually some mathematician is going to try and combine the two during his coffee break.
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com>
> Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
> To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:09 AM
> It is interesting to note that, while there is an obvious
> connection
> between ten fingers and the base ten number system, some
> ancients would
> disagree. That is, it is only an historical accident
> that we ended up
> with a base ten system based on ten fingers. For
> example, ancient
> Babylonians counted on a base twelve system, since there
> are twelve
> bones in the four fingers of one hand. This is why
> there are twenty
> four hours in a day. Since base 60 was also used
> (Note sure why) we
> have sixty minutes in an hour, etc.
> > Not sure I ever saw this one broadcast as a kid, but
> it's on the DVD
> > that my kids have watched a thousand times. :-)
> > Kendric Beachey
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM, johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Have to jump in to share a completely obvious
> realization that is core
> > > to the human condition...
> > > The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> > > 'Our' mathematics is based on 10 numeric 'digits'
> -- I love words.
> > > Very big on etymology and semantics and such...
> > > I would wager, though not a betting man, that a
> hypothesis that the 10
> > > number (0-9) system is directly drawn from the
> fact that we have ten
> > > fingers... Stupid, I know. So
> insanely obvious but still, how many
> > > people are completely oblivious to the connection
> between the two?
> > > 5138008
> > > turn that upside down... >;-P>
> > > l8r,
> > > Chris
> > > On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Leo Mauler wrote:
> > >> > While you certainly score points, is a
> non-programmable calculator really anything more than a
> frilly abacus?
> > >> If you turn it upside-down, you can type
> hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> > >> your schmancy-pants abacus.
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Leo Mauler
> <webgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Leo Mauler <webgi...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
> To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:20 PM
> The most likely progression was that the first numeral
> system was base-10, because we all have ten fingers.
> When mathematicians came up with the concept of base-12, and
> discovered it was easier to "do math" in base-12
> (it is, actually), they quickly adopted base-12.
> The
> reason why this was the logical progression is that
> base-60 comes about when you merge base-10 and
> base-12. With both number systems in use, eventually
> some mathematician is going to try and combine the two
> during his coffee break.
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com> wrote:
> > From: Bill Baldwin <li...@baldwincs.com>
> > Subject: [KULUA] Re: Lovin' Ubuntu
> > To: kulua-l@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:09 AM
> > It is interesting to note that, while there is an
> obvious
> > connection
> > between ten fingers and the base ten number system,
> some
> > ancients would
> disagree. That is, it is only an historical
> accident
> > that we ended up
> > with a base ten system based on ten fingers.
> For
> > example, ancient
> > Babylonians counted on a base twelve system, since
> there
> > are twelve
> > bones in the four fingers of one hand. This is
> why
> > there are twenty
> > four hours in a day. Since base 60 was also
> used
> > (Note sure why) we
> > have sixty minutes in an hour, etc.
> > > Not sure I ever saw this one broadcast as a kid,
> but
> > it's on the DVD
> > > that my kids have watched a thousand times.
> :-)
> > > Kendric Beachey
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:09 AM,
> johnnyorion<spektrumcreati...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Have to jump in to share a completely
> obvious
> > realization that is core
> > > > to the human condition...
> > > > The abacus thing kicked off this thought...
> > > > 'Our' mathematics is based on 10
> numeric 'digits'
> > -- I love words.
> > > > Very big on etymology and semantics and
> such...
> > > > I would wager, though not a betting man,
> that a
> > hypothesis that the 10
> > > > number (0-9) system is directly drawn from
> the
> > fact that we have ten
> > > > fingers... Stupid, I know. So
> > insanely obvious but still, how
> many
> > > > people are completely oblivious to the
> connection
> > between the two?
> > > > 5138008
> > > > turn that upside down... >;-P>
> > > > l8r,
> > > > Chris
> > > > On Jun 23, 11:25 pm, Aaron Brown <aa...@thebrownproject.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> Leo Mauler wrote:
> > > >> > While you certainly score points,
> is a
> > non-programmable calculator really anything more than
> a
> > frilly abacus?
> > > >> If you turn it upside-down, you can
> type
> > hELL0 on it. Try *that* with
> > > >> your schmancy-pants abacus.
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