Creating a Global Finance System for the 21st Century: An Action Strategy

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Hi,

KM now works with finance - see http://networkingaction.net/resources/GFI+Final+Report.pdf
- a link from Value Networks.

How do you think - they are talking about real changes in global
finance or about changes without changes?

Nikolay

[Benoit]

Nikolay,

I think that you are equipped to present your case to the Value-
Networks group.

From the little that I can observe and understand, I agree that there
seems to be a well prepared scam going on by the few who are simply
repositioning themselves to carry on the same lopsided profit making
at the expense of all the rest.
It does not look like real solutions to me and it will end up causing
further damage to the "confidence" of the people.
Having forseen such possibility a couple years ago I wrote:

"...I hope to be the poison to kill such Value-Networks across the
planet, even if it means calling upon everyone to do like the Incas
did, who abandoned their leader, and who simply went back to the
jungle instead of going on sacrificing their children to a priesthood
of deceit and of the evil produced naturally by the human
unregenerated and unregenerating heart, because deceit and evil is the
proof demonstrated so far, by the lip service of "OPEN SOURCE,
offering itself a tool for improvement when in fact, all it is, is a
disguise to cover up indifference and ignorance above all things,
which is what drives on and on human "PROGRESS"...toward
Armageddon!!!???...

So the question here is: "Are the leaders of thecnology following
their apetite for power like Incas priesthood did or are they like the
people who got away from them such priesthood and who ended up to
become slaves of Europe's expansion?"

Where to from here?

Benoit

On Aug 29, 12:22 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Hi,
>

> KM now works with finance - seehttp://networkingaction.net/resources/GFI+Final+Report.pdf

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Benoit,

as far as I understand myself I did not give such an appreciation -
the scam. It's an intagible trick, I suppose, because information or
knowledge about thing is always between people and thing. One can
change information/knowledge about thing without changing that thing
(the Global Finance System). Is it scam? I do not know.

So, I would like to understand because do not have the case.

How Europe's expansion is connected with the Global Finance System?

Nikolay

[Benoit]

"How Europe's expansion is connected with the Global Finance System?"

Historically with colonisation and currently with the EU carrying over
the past toward the future.

The "scam" to me is to watch the capitalist nations being used into
socialist ways to economically recover(tax payers' money) while moving
on in the same profit-driven corporate agenda that caused the crisis.

Benoit

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[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Are you about colonisation of the future by EU? Do you think is it
really possible?

Consider: http://valuenetworks.com/public/item/238650

Science in management is in the past - 'Knowledge Worker' concept -
thinking about work time only, as if these Knowledge Workers switch
off their brains after work time. An example:

Innovation dynamics and organisational structures

http://www.knowledgeboard.com/item/3027

Interesting observation, but Knowlege Person is reality and, for
example, this group proves it.

Dave Snowden is probably correct if to convert his last stage 'sense-
making' into the Global Finance issue. But what is result of this
sense-making and what will be next? Ability to 'situate' a network is
too far from responsibility because 'ability' is not ACTION itself and
knowledge is about action. Is it NO FUTURE in management and finance
in the World?

Not seriously ... or very seriously?

Nikolay

[Benoit]

<Are you about colonisation of the future by EU? Do you think is it
really possible?>

I was refering to history, from which the present comes to most of the
planet's nations. The future cannot arrive by snapping away from the
present and the past, but it cannot go on without evolving and growing
in progress.

Knowledge People of network-thinking need to determine the boundaries
of sufficiency, meaning that the day is coming when a network is going
to be a network because it is an economic wheel that can survive with
the ability to associate with other network(s) or not to associate,
without having its people's survival compromised.

As we learn to act this way, global finance will follow suit.
Otherwise, we are bound to repeat history in a way that will go on
serving the very few at the expense of the many, many...which most
wont accept.


Benoit

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[Nikolay Kryachkov]

I think economic (bank interest) growth means 'serving the very few at
the expense of the many, many', but the very few can be substituted by
netocracy (about which I wrote 3 years ago)

http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2006/09/knowledge-persons-and-netocracy.html

which is designed in capitalist or socialist (can't recognise) Sweden.

Former Soviet global networked socialist system wrongly named
communism was originally designed by European marxists to help
capitalism to survive.

Look - socialists are not based in Moscow, they are in the home
country of modern capitalism:

SOCIALIST INTERNATIONAL, MARITIME HOUSE, OLD TOWN, CLAPHAM, LONDON SW4
0JW, UNITED KINGDOM
T: (44 20) 7627 4449 F: (44 20) 7720 4448 / 7498 1293

http://www.socialistinternational.org

What now?

Any ideas to determine the boundaries of Global Finace sufficiency?

Nikolay

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2009/9/3 Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru>

[Benoit]

"Any ideas to determine the boundaries of Global Finace sufficiency?"

I see these boundaries being determined by the quality or lack of, of
the intangibles.
As you point out regarding bank interest, the very few who get served
at the expense of the many, many must not cause imbalances by
neglecting the intangibles while imposing command and control.
The quality of intangibles begin with self-control and move to
community self-governnance.
The boudaries can then be defined and kept stable, as they are rooted
in personal and communal need leading to self-sifficiency, as opposed
to impersonal fabrications subjected to institutionalisation leading
to mindless consumerism and unsustainability.

Benoit

On Sep 3, 10:52 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> I think economic (bank interest) growth means 'serving the very few at
> the expense of the many, many', but the very few can be substituted by
> netocracy (about which I wrote 3 years ago)
>

> http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2006/09/knowledge-persons-and-net...

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

What do the intagibles you mentioned really reflect? Bank interest is
intangible.

Nikolay

[Benoit]

So then, maybe it is time to build a global media process from
bankers' turf to bankers' war amongst themselves, where all bankers
and financers who refuse to join Global Finance sufficiency and all of
the necessary-ideal intangibles get to eliminate each other while
their new replacements are being completed.

Then all governments work to convert all of the war tools into
agricultural tools and whatever else might be applicable to the
recovery of the planet.

The launch date of such a process could be Sep 21, 09 from Copenhagen
at the summit on climate change.

Ready to participate? See:
http://avaaz.org:80/en/sept21_host_pledge/?cl=305372860&v=3870

Half humous, half wishful thinking but most likely all kidding around!

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Still can't understand what novelty in finance you and/or open
democrats suggest except conflict? Can you explain?

Nikolay

[Benoit]

Conflict is supported by finance. What I suggest is to limit conflict
to those who support it, isolate them and while they get busy doing
their own dirty work, instead of leaving them to "divide and conquer"m
then the rest of the people who are looking for peaceful solutions can
then apply themselves to do it.

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Sweet Dreams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQHrspjw4aA

Consider:

Paul Hilder – Campaign Director (UK) of http://www.avaaz.org/en/about.php
is from http://www.opendemocracy.net/author/Paul_Hilder.jsp

Open democracy is supported by:

- The Ford Foundation, which supported the report from Value Networks
we are discussing http://networkingaction.net/resources/GFI+Final+Report.pdf
and which caused your "I hope to be the poison to kill such Value-
Networks ...";

- The Rockefeller Foundation. Rockefeller is the global banker and
you said about bankers: "So then, maybe it is time to build a global

media process from bankers' turf to bankers' war amongst themselves,
where all bankers and financers who refuse to join Global Finance
sufficiency and all of the necessary-ideal intangibles get to
eliminate each other while
their new replacements are being completed"

among others

http://www.opendemocracy.net/about/our_supporters

Do you want to eliminate one another? Who will create next generation
Global Finance in that case?

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

Are you saying then that with the Rocherfefeller Foundation and the
Ford Foundation, we are on track for what is needed for the Global
Finance sufficiency?
If not, what do you propose?

Benoit

On Sep 5, 12:52 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Sweet Dreams
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQHrspjw4aA
>
> Consider:
>
> Paul Hilder – Campaign Director (UK) ofhttp://www.avaaz.org/en/about.php

> is fromhttp://www.opendemocracy.net/author/Paul_Hilder.jsp

>
> Open democracy is supported by:
>
> - The Ford Foundation, which supported the report from Value Networks

> we are discussinghttp://networkingaction.net/resources/GFI+Final+Report.pdf

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[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Finance is management of money. Money is measure of value. Therefore
finance is not so important as values are. Are you sure in the values?

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

What you wrote above brings me back to a question I posted in 2005::

"At what point does the difference between national currencies' value
meet in the Open Spacial Consortium (OSC)and how does the
standartization get to be applied in such a way as to avoid the East
flooding the West, once the natural order of demography begins to
compound itself into the voting powers? Sooner or later, immigration
laws, labour nessecities and the sheer limits of the environments are
begging for the question to be asked: How does OSC accomodate the
original purpose and strength of standardization, to create
preconditions for the various cultural experiences of freedom of the
innovation's driving force, when currency is the standard by which
freedom is measured, but no currencies are of the same worth?
Could it be that it will only be when we experience freedom with a
universal standard that the forces of currencies shall be guided to go
from competing to completing in the peaceful river of opportunity to
bring on home from local to global. We need to insure that OSC never
becomes a pressure from above and always a tool to ease in the
personal and the communal health and happiness. From such experience
of freedom grows the efficiency of OSC. Thank you."

I was responding to an article that you can look at here:
http://www.directionsmag.com/article.php?article_id=934

I never got an answer then, but maybe will we come to some shared
vision on the matter amongst ourselves from St-Petersburg to Edmonton?

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

"when currency is the standard by which
freedom is measured"

Do you think freedom can be sold or bought?

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

Freedom can be invested in to develop and to maintain satisfaction and
contentment! Good health and hapiness are the reward of such
investment. Currencies and trading can then be measured accordingly.

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

As I can understand English "invest in" means "buy". So, is your
value to buy/sell satisfaction due to overproduction of freedom? Do
you really think freedom can be outside you or another person,
produced, invested/borrowed?

If all this is your understanding of freedom, you are not free, I
think. That means you will change everything except yourself even if
you are mistaken.

Am I correct?

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

<If all this is your understanding of freedom>

It is not a problem of understanding English well or not as you
wondered, it is a matter of speaking from the first nature that rules
human's current governance, versus the second nature, which
governance's is yet to come.

I speak from being-having-doing. Business economics speak from doing-
having-being.

When I speak of investing in freedom, I speak of th ewealth of
"becoming" from conception to the grave and from personal to communal,
you respond with the patterns of financial wealth acquisition.

Your's is worth nothing to mine and mine is worth nothing to your's,
but we are stuck, having to co-habit.

To me, being free, is to be free from the version of investment that
business economics speak from.
That is how I view our need to get on with the global finace
sufficiency in the currency from local to global, without neglecting
the care needed from micro to macro.

Also regarding your impression that I advocated "satisfaction due to
overproduction of freedom", it is against imbalances such as that,
that I wrote earlier about "mindless consumerism and
unsustainability", .

As an example to reply to that quote of "my satisfaction due to
overproduction of freedom", in Canada, people value the freedom of
expression. It is part of our Charter of Rights and Freedom.
Since about 1983, when the Charter took effect, in order to stay true
to the spirit of the Charter, the Supreme Court of Canada has to keep
the balance between the freedom of expression and, that which is not
writen, the expression of freedom.

As it goes now, the recovery being applied to the credit crisis seems
to indicate as you say: "I am not free". We are not moving toward
being-having-doing. Everything seems to be gearing up and reving up
for more over consumerism for the sake of financial gain.

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

> Your's is worth nothing to mine and mine is worth nothing to your's,
> but we are stuck, having to co-habit.

As I can see I am a burden to you :)

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

Not a burden but a welcome challenge at being gehuine in all I am-have-
do :)

Benoit

[Alexander Goldybin]

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[Raj Aphale]

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[Bojidar Alexandrov]

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[Rajendra Aphale]

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[Benoit]

It always has an effect in the deep of mine, when I am part of a
conversation that causes one to exit the group where it happens. I
had the same experience 2 weeks ago, although today, my reaction is
much milder.
It makes me feel like I must apologise to you, the owner of the
group. So fere it is Nikolay, I apologise to be part of the moment
that got Alexander to depart the group.
I pray and hope that it is for the best of all involved.

This experience leads me to the questions of network potentcy, such
as:

How do we create the climate for silence to be evoked by truth's
necessity. in an ongoing and growing dialogue or in any legal process?

Since network activity is based on actively relating, how could
Alexander have moved to find contentment and satisfaction and to
prevent exiting?

When is it wise or not to offer Alexander to give us his coaching,
even if he still leaves?

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

I do not see any problem if someone leaves this group. Some people are
not prepared to understand what we are talking about or have some
other reasons to leave, perhaps.

Only true Knowledge Persons will stay :)

Nikolay

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[Carlos Rodríguez Artacho]

If this is all addressed to me, do not worry I will leave the group

2009/9/8 Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru>

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

I do not worry, Carlos. As I have said before - Only true Knowledge
Persons will stay :) and suppose why some people leave the group.

You decide.

Nikolay

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[Carlos Rodríguez Artacho]

Everybody knows Consumers Spending is needed to boost the Economy, else it will sink deeper into a recession.

The question is:

Why human beings need to serve the Economy instead of the Economy that should serve human beings?

Aren't we been thought by parents to "spend wisely", "be thrifty", "spend only when necessary"...etc?

Human beings have become the slave and the Economy is the master?
(role reversal?)

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

And who said that the economy should serve human beings? I know only
the different level of poverty and dependence for most human beings in
the different economies.

I do not know why consumer spending is needed to boost the economy
because I can eat 2 dinners per day :) but I can't eat 10 dinners per
day and grow my consumption of dinners.

Economy is organized system. Do you know who, why ... organise(d) it
and how it really works? Things are represented that only ONE variant
can be, but note - economy is ORGANIZED system.

Think.

Nikolay

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[Nikolay Kryachkov]

International monetary reform to complement stricter financial
regulation
(Trade and Development Report 2009)
http://www.unctad.org/Templates/WebFlyer.asp?intItemID=5006&lang=1

"The crisis proves that free financial markets do not lead to optimal
social and macroeconomic outcomes. As a consequence, the balance
between private activity and state involvement in the financial sector
beyond the crisis needs to be revised fundamentally."

Do they think the value of freedom doesn't work? Maybe freedom is not
the value or incorrect value? Can intangible SDR represent freedom?

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

The way that it is writen, Special Drawing Rights (SDR) is a new set
of conditions and regulations to borrow-lend, so as to prevent any
further credit crisis.

In English, there is "freedom" and there is "liberty". In French, we
only have liberty. Freedom is the personal choice of movements and
activities, whereas liberty is the collective state being mantained to
allow people to govern themselves.

Business depends on enterpreneurship, which comes from people who
freely invest themselves into commitments. Once invested and
commited, freedom gives way to service. Service grows and operates
within an organized system known as you wrote, the economy.

SDR must be of service to satisfy need-responsibility of the freedom-
liberty framework of the economy. It all becomes simple. The
complications come from the parasite elements that survive out of
confusing the simplicity of liberty.

Benoit

On Sep 10, 3:35 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> International monetary reform to complement stricter financial
> regulation

> (Trade and Development Report 2009)http://www.unctad.org/Templates/WebFlyer.asp?intItemID=5006&lang=1

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Freedom - liberty framework means liberation from what? In Russain
langiage there is an analog of "freedom/liberty" - svoboda (свобода),
but I think it comes from outside:

1. Liberation from slavery;
2. Making choice if liberation took place.

Therefore liberartion/freedom is valuable for those who makes
liberation (revolution ...) and over time this value is being
separated from its natural basis and becomes pure intangible and
inflated. Something like that - they dance revolution:

T-Rex - Chidren of The Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgcxd9wtXUE

In Russian language there is the word volya (воля) authentic even in
Russian folklore - analog of "will", which is always inside you, if
you have it. It's always your. "Will" can't be separated from you. So,
you can't be slave in principle and "will" can't inflate even if it is
in culture:

Kipelov - Will and mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgaSgFDci6U

In other words: Somebody can take your "liberty/freedom". Nobody can
take away "Will". History teaches - you can liberate people but it
doesn't mean they have "Will".

Therefore. Why do you always reconstruct the value (freedom), which is
separated from people?

Specifically: Special Drawing Rights. What is the basis to define the
first instance to give loans and make interest, i.e. where this
supreme power comes from and why? Who liberated that first instance
and from what?

Nikolay

On Sep 10, 5:40 pm, Benoit <ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way that it is writen, Special Drawing Rights (SDR) is a new set
> of conditions and regulations to borrow-lend, so as to prevent any
> further credit crisis.
>
> In English, there is "freedom" and there is "liberty".  In French, we
> only have liberty.  Freedom is the personal choice of movements and
> activities, whereas liberty is the collective state being mantained to
> allow people to govern themselves.
>
> Business depends on enterpreneurship, which comes from people who
> freely invest themselves into commitments.  Once invested and
> commited, freedom gives way to service.  Service grows and operates
> within an organized system known as you wrote, the economy.
>
> SDR must be of service to satisfy need-responsibility of the freedom-
> liberty framework of the economy.  It all becomes simple.  The
> complications come from the parasite elements that survive out of
> confusing the simplicity of liberty.
>
> Benoit
>
> On Sep 10, 3:35 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
>
> > International monetary reform to complement stricter financial
> > regulation

> > (Trade and Development Report 2009)http://www.unctad.org/Templates/WebFlyer.asp?intItemID=5006〈=1

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[Benoit]

This morning, I received live news from a young man whom I mentored
with being-having-doing. After a very short time of mentoring him, we
went on to invest our free will to feed and to grow the communication
of liberty.

I use his news of this morning as a live example of why I write as I
do, which has nothing to do with your understanding of what I write
when you say above:

<Why do you always reconstruct the value (freedom), which is
separated from people?>

To me, freedom is not seperated from the people, it is the fuel that
drives well being, creativity and wisdom. I was born, raised and I
recently begun to live my senior years, where we invest our personal
freedom in the State of Liberty. This is the nature of Canada! This
is why we participated in the 2 "world wars" and this is why we are
currently in Afghanistan.

So from Canada, I am interjecting in our conversation some intimate,
recent news from Uganda:

- it was yesterday at 2pm when the news sarounded al over the capital
city in uganda that their Kingdom is in wrangle with the govt
and now cios started
several people have been killed,
there is no stable conditions up to now
however, the militaly have taken over the city and every where in
central uganda to cool down the mob justice and stop people from
rooting things

at least our staffs, properties have been destroyed and stolen
including the scaner, printer and monitor screen at place of work

there are also people who died not sure who is who

am safe home in my room
i look an escape from town center and run home and everything is on
stand still now

Fred-

Sounds familiar?

Inspiration is the starting point of connection between mentor and
mentoree. One of the "ingredients for inspiration" that I offered
Fred, is a song I wrote in 1996 titled Call to Canada and which opens
with:

"Could we reach the agreement
that it's the whole world who is need
to see a place like Canada,
to show that free will can be a good thing."

As you see, I am well aware that when we speak from Fred's Uganda
point of view and from your well experienced Russian point of view,
liberation is what is needed.
My point of view is to remain free and to devote my life to feed
liberty's vital growth of good health and prosperity.

The rest of the song goes:

In 1945 we were invited to join a deal.
Most of the nations had great hope to bring peace among humans.

After sixty some years, great challenges are facing us.
The deal has not provided what we forgot to look after.

We just cannot go on, building wealth for me, myself and I,
while our loving for each other remains hidden behind divisions.

We’ve got to grow from that bottom line that has been in use
and bring about that sense of belonging,
bonded beyond the business fences.

Maybe we haven’t understood that prosperity only comes to us
from who we are together and not from what we do to each other.

We have all it takes to become heaven on earth;
we have been blessed with wealth, now let’s lead wealth to prosperity.

Believe it or not, it is the whole world who is in need to see a place
like Canada to show that the Renewing Covenant is unity for the human
race…
Benoit Couture © Subsence Publishing and Promotion

Can inspiration remove the " r " out of revolution, so that the
intelligence of love and wisdom may get on with liberty's march of
freedom of justice, peace and joy of living?

Such is the Value-Network of Knowledge Persons I belong to!

Benoit

On Sep 10, 9:50 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Freedom - liberty framework means liberation from what? In Russain
> langiage there is an analog of "freedom/liberty" - svoboda (свобода),
> but I think it comes from outside:
>
> 1. Liberation from slavery;
> 2. Making choice if liberation took place.
>
> Therefore liberartion/freedom is valuable for those who makes
> liberation (revolution ...) and over time this value is being
> separated from its natural basis and becomes pure intangible and
> inflated. Something like that - they dance revolution:
>

> T-Rex - Chidren of The Revolutionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgcxd9wtXUE

>
> In Russian language there is the word volya (воля) authentic even in
> Russian folklore - analog of "will", which is always inside you, if
> you have it. It's always your. "Will" can't be separated from you. So,
> you can't be slave in principle and "will" can't inflate even if it is
> in culture:
>

> Kipelov - Will and mindhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgaSgFDci6U

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

United Russia did not participate in the WW2, United Russia won a
victory in the WW2 in despite of direct and indirect mentoring from
outside.

But you raised an important question about directions of will.

You refers to metnoring. Mentor directs.

I never had and do not have mentors. To me mentoring is a kind of
intervention into personality as if a personal will can't truly direct
the person. And mentor always can?

Going back to finance. Imagine a country which do not participate in
SDR and emits own currency backed with own economy. Will you go
liberate people of this country?

Nikolay
P.S. Africa will unite, cause they're moving right out of Babylon :)

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[Benoit]

If we understand united to be the contrary of divided, when has there
ever been such a thing as United Russia or United States or United
Europe throughout history?

Regarding the mentoring I receive, it is about relating with
relevancy. My children mentor me quire often. Feeding, growing,
learning with mutual reciprocity are the aims of good. In that sense,
life itself is a mentor.

Any country that can back their currency by their own economy are self-
sufficient. They dont need to trade in terms of currency but in terms
of goods and services from their surpluses to their trading partners'
surpluses.
The corporate agenda is allergic to self-sufficiency as it eliminates
their command and control position of middleling the globalisation
movements.

Benoit

Ps: I thought Babylon went down with Saddam :)

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

Someone said that Russia is not country, Russia is civilization with
many nations inside.

The corporate agenda is going from command and control to networks. We
started from this Value Network/corporate report

http://networkingaction.net/resources/GFI+Final+Report.pdf

SDR and the Central Banks System is a kind of corporate network.

http://www.unctad.org/Templates/WebFlyer.asp?intItemID=5006&lang=1

Let me repeat my question - is there reason to suppose that above
mentioned corporate networks have liberation mission regarding
economies beyond their networks? Another side of my question - is self-
sufficiency a core value of the corporate value networks?

I meant Babylon from reggae :)

"We refuse to be, what you wanted us to be
We are what we are
That's the way is goin' to be (if you don't know)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5EoiQX7u5k

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari_movement

Nikolay

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[Benoit]

From what I observe, the corporate agenda is to push the Rule of Law
for trade and business in such a direction as to draw all cultures,
nationalities and borders under its influence, by establishing the
market economy as the driving force of governance.
Is this a liberation mission, simply the evolution of human nature or
the nightmare of the very few who go on becomming fewer and fewer to
decibe for evereyone else?
At the moment, it all depends on where one lives I guess.

<Is self-suffeciency a core value of the corporate value-networks?>

The sense I get from the corporate value-networks' position is that
organised human intelligence operates naturally into networks
entities. To them, the emergence of a network is a natural happening
as part of a continuously moving, evolving and progressing human eco-
system.
By viewing the wolrd from such a position, self-sufficiency is an
innate part of the continious movement of progress and evolution,
which also includes birth and death and the jungle rule that only the
fittest survives.

> I meant Babylon from reggae :) >

Oups :)

I certainly hope that we'll never see the rise of organised violence
out of reggae nor any other such influence.

Benoit

[Nikolay Kryachkov]

You know that human nature is flexible and is being programmed.

What is market economy?

Market economy:
1. Someone took power of the first instance to give loans for
interest.
2. People compete one another to pay interest (jungle rule that only
the fittest survives, as you say).
3. (1) and (2) programme human behavior.

And you want to legitimize 2-3 to be the Rule of Law under the cover
of "human nature"? I think (1) and the values behind it need close
consideration before saying about the Rule of Law. If otherwise, it's
violence.

Reggae says about that war is a fact

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSXVc73zHM

Is exodus violence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvklaIE2Tg

Nikolay

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