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Digital Biographer  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 30 2008, 6:02 am
From: Digital Biographer <david.pether...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2008 6:02 am
Subject: Duplicate Content now flagged on Knol
I NOTICED TWO interesting phenomena yesterday - the first was that on
one of my Google Knols, a link under the heading “Duplicate Content on
the Web” appreared (see ) which highlighted the fact that an article I
had added to Google Knol was “75% similar” to content inside a PDF
file on one of my web sites that I had allowed Google’s earch engine
to spider.

So Knol does have the ability to spot duplicate content, and flag it
up. If you look at a Digg article in Knol
[ http://knol.google.com/k/derek-slenk/diggcom/16cvuo23yi32x/4# ]
which is a straight lift from Wikipedia, you can see the following to
the right:

Similar Content on the Web
medlibrary.org 100%
wikipedia.org 100%
w2n.net 99%

Whether Google's going to penalise such plagiarism or theft by
demoting search results, I can't say - but at least it shows the issue
of recognising duplication and textual analysis is built in from the
start.

--

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Regards, David
David Petherick | Word Chef | Knol Roll
http://knolroll.com | The (free) network for Google Knol Authors to
collaborate, learn, and share...


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wisiwig  
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 More options Aug 2 2008, 2:39 pm
From: wisiwig <tia...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate Content now flagged on Knol
Thats interesting and a little dissapointing, I had thought we were
able to republish articles or part of them on Knol if relevant and
warranted, as long as we both wrote and owned the original work? There
should be a system in place of course to stop people stealing
material, however the original author should be able to re-use all or
part of their own works, surely?

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WebRanger  
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 More options Aug 2 2008, 3:55 pm
From: WebRanger <david.blomst...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:55:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate Content now flagged on Knol
I asked that very question (about using the same article on Knol and a
personal website) and was told it's OK. It would be nice if they
developed a system that allowed authors to identify duplicate material
they own. I don't think I'd mind if Google cited my original article
as identical as long as they don't penalize me for it.

Just to make the situation clear, I might even insert a note in my
knol advising readers that I own a particular article listed as
identical.

What I REALLY want to see Google do is crack down on these clowns who
are copying and pasting articles from Wikipedia. I wrote an article
about Wikipedia, only to find two or three or more articles with the
same title that were simply lifted from Wikipedia. I don't appreciate
competition from hackers.

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Bennett Haselton  
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 More options Aug 2 2008, 7:14 pm
From: Bennett Haselton <benn...@peacefire.org>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate Content now flagged on Knol
By the way, how do you find the articles by those "clowns who are
copying and pasting articles from Wikipedia"?  I saw the Derek Tseng
article on digg.com for example:
http://knol.google.com/k/derek-slenk/diggcom/16cvuo23yi32x/4
but how did anybody discover that that knol existed -- just by
searching for "digg" and seeing what results were listed?

I looked through the knols listed at
http://knol.google.com/k/knol/directory-000
but it didn't include the digg.com one, or any other article I could
see which appeared to be lifted from Wikipedia.

-Bennett

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WebRanger  
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 More options Aug 2 2008, 7:50 pm
From: WebRanger <david.blomst...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate Content now flagged on Knol
On Aug 2, 4:14 pm, Bennett Haselton <benn...@peacefire.org> wrote:

> By the way, how do you find the articles by those "clowns who are
> copying and pasting articles from Wikipedia"?

Just type "Wikipedia" into Knol's search box. On the right side of the
page it says something like "Duplicate content on the web." I think
the first article ranked about 81% with Wikipedia.

My article (David Blomstrom) doesn't list any duplicate content,
though I did use the Wikipedia article as my primary reference. I just
reworded it and threw in some of my own ideas. In fact, I want to add
more references when I upgrade my article.

It might be nice if Google gave authors a gold star if they manage to
create a knol with unique content. Otherwise, it's going to be a
losing battle competing with Wikipedia. :)


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