Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the 20,000+ people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be done.
I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees will get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up with a training room and network connections. All I need is an interested group of people.
I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to go if interested.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an attitude
> of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an excellent and
> interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from the unveiling at
> Google IO.
> It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out the Google
> Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There is
> also adeveloper's guide.
> Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the 20,000+
> people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be done.
> I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees will
> get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up with a
> training room and network connections. All I need is an interested group of
> people.
> I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to go
> if interested.
> Please see this page if
> interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ > ---
> Matthew Taylor
> http://dangertree.net
> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for me.
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
> attitude
> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an excellent
> and
> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
> the unveiling at
> > Google IO.
> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out the Google
> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There
> is
> > also adeveloper's guide.
> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the 20,000+
> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
> done.
> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees
> will
> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
> with a
> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested group
> of
> > people.
> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to
> go
> > if interested.
> > Please see this page if
> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ > > ---
> > Matthew Taylor
> > http://dangertree.net
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Count me in.
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
>> me.
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
>> > attitude
>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an excellent
>> > and
>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
>> > the unveiling at
>> > Google IO.
>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out the Google
>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There
>> > is
>> > also adeveloper's guide.
>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the 20,000+
>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
>> > done.
>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees
>> > will
>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
>> > with a
>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
>> > group of
>> > people.
>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to
>> > go
>> > if interested.
>> > Please see this page if
>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ >> > ---
>> > Matthew Taylor
>> > http://dangertree.net
That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
Matt
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell
<david.mitch...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Count me in.
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <
> david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
> >> me.
> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
> >> > attitude
> >> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
> excellent
> >> > and
> >> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
> >> > the unveiling at
> >> > Google IO.
> >> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out
> the Google
> >> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account.
> There
> >> > is
> >> > also adeveloper's guide.
> >> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
> 20,000+
> >> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
> >> > done.
> >> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all
> attendees
> >> > will
> >> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
> >> > with a
> >> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
> >> > group of
> >> > people.
> >> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance
> to
> >> > go
> >> > if interested.
> >> > Please see this page if
> >> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ > >> > ---
> >> > Matthew Taylor
> >> > http://dangertree.net
I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is small.
I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
Roger
_____
From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Matthew Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
Matt
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Scott (and others)
I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Count me in.
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
>> me.
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
>> > attitude
>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
excellent
>> > and
>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
>> > the unveiling at
>> > Google IO.
>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out the
Google
>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There
>> > is
>> > also adeveloper's guide.
>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
20,000+
>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
>> > done.
>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees
>> > will
>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
>> > with a
>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
>> > group of
>> > people.
>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to
>> > go
>> > if interested.
>> > Please see this page if
>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ >> > ---
>> > Matthew Taylor
>> > http://dangertree.net
> I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
> be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is small.
> I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
> Roger
> ------------------------------
> *From:* KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Matthew Taylor
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
> *To:* KCJava@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
> sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
> served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
> Matt
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell <
> david.mitch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scott (and others)
> I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Count me in.
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <
> david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
> >> me.
> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
> >> > attitude
> >> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
> excellent
> >> > and
> >> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
> >> > the unveiling at
> >> > Google IO.
> >> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out
> the Google
> >> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account.
> There
> >> > is
> >> > also adeveloper's guide.
> >> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
> 20,000+
> >> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
> >> > done.
> >> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all
> attendees
> >> > will
> >> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
> >> > with a
> >> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
> >> > group of
> >> > people.
> >> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance
> to
> >> > go
> >> > if interested.
> >> > Please see this page if
> >> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ > >> > ---
> >> > Matthew Taylor
> >> > http://dangertree.net
I wasn't sure if we were going to stay in St louis overnight or what. I
actually live in Lincoln, Mo which is about 15miles south of Sedalia. I
assumed the event it self was free, but if we were all going to group
together or rooms or something.
Roger
_____
From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Matthew Taylor
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:38 PM
To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Roger O'Dell <roger.odell...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is small.
I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
Roger
_____
From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Matthew Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
Matt
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Scott (and others)
I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Count me in.
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
>> me.
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
>> > attitude
>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
excellent
>> > and
>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
>> > the unveiling at
>> > Google IO.
>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out the
Google
>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There
>> > is
>> > also adeveloper's guide.
>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
20,000+
>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
>> > done.
>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees
>> > will
>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
>> > with a
>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
>> > group of
>> > people.
>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to
>> > go
>> > if interested.
>> > Please see this page if
>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ >> > ---
>> > Matthew Taylor
>> > http://dangertree.net
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Roger O'Dell<roger.odell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wasn’t sure if we were going to stay in St louis overnight or what. I
> actually live in Lincoln, Mo which is about 15miles south of Sedalia. I
> assumed the event it self was free, but if we were all going to group
> together or rooms or something.
> Roger
> ________________________________
> From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Matthew Taylor
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:38 PM
> To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Roger O'Dell <roger.odell...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
> be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is small.
> I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
> Roger
> ________________________________
> From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Matthew Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
> To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
> sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
> served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
> Matt
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Scott (and others)
> I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Count me in.
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <david.mitch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
>>> me.
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
>>> > attitude
>>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
>>> > excellent
>>> > and
>>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
>>> > the unveiling at
>>> > Google IO.
>>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out
>>> > the Google
>>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account. There
>>> > is
>>> > also adeveloper's guide.
>>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
>>> > 20,000+
>>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
>>> > done.
>>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all attendees
>>> > will
>>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
>>> > with a
>>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
>>> > group of
>>> > people.
>>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance to
>>> > go
>>> > if interested.
>>> > Please see this page if
>>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ >>> > ---
>>> > Matthew Taylor
>>> > http://dangertree.net
As much as I would love to attend, I will have to pass. I have a job in the
works and our money is just too tight for an overnight stay. Please let me
know how the event went.
-----Original Message-----
From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
David Mitchell
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:27 PM
To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
I'm in KC, so I was planning to drive down Tue afternoon and get a
hotel overnight. Then drive back Weds. morning.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Roger O'Dell<roger.odell...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I wasn’t sure if we were going to stay in St louis overnight or what. I
> actually live in Lincoln, Mo which is about 15miles south of Sedalia. I
> assumed the event it self was free, but if we were all going to group
> together or rooms or something.
> Roger
> ________________________________
> From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Matthew Taylor
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:38 PM
> To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Roger O'Dell <roger.odell...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
> be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is
small.
> I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
> Roger
> ________________________________
> From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Matthew Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
> To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
> sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
> served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
> Matt
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell
<david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Scott (and others)
> I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Count me in.
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell
<david.mitch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
>>> me.
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
>>> > attitude
>>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
>>> > excellent
>>> > and
>>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
>>> > the unveiling at
>>> > Google IO.
>>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out
>>> > the Google
>>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account.
There
>>> > is
>>> > also adeveloper's guide.
>>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
>>> > 20,000+
>>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
>>> > done.
>>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all
attendees
>>> > will
>>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
>>> > with a
>>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
>>> > group of
>>> > people.
>>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance
to
>>> > go
>>> > if interested.
>>> > Please see this page if
>>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ >>> > ---
>>> > Matthew Taylor
>>> > http://dangertree.net
> I'm in KC, so I was planning to drive down Tue afternoon and get a
> hotel overnight. Then drive back Weds. morning.
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Roger O'Dell<roger.odell...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I wasn’t sure if we were going to stay in St louis overnight or what. I
> > actually live in Lincoln, Mo which is about 15miles south of Sedalia. I
> > assumed the event it self was free, but if we were all going to group
> > together or rooms or something.
> > Roger
> > ________________________________
> > From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Matthew Taylor
> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:38 PM
> > To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Roger O'Dell <roger.odell...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > I have a few questions. How many days will we be there? What days will it
> > be? How much will it cost? I am currently not working so my income is
> small.
> > I am interested in going if certain arrangements can be made.
> > Roger
> > ________________________________
> > From: KCJava@googlegroups.com [mailto:KCJava@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Matthew Taylor
> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 PM
> > To: KCJava@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [kcjava] Re: St. Louis Google Wave Hackfest
> > That makes 24 people signed up to go in 3 days! :) I have as many wave
> > sandbox accounts as it takes, and we can fit 50 people. First come first
> > served... I'm about to announce it to the Gateway JUG, too ;).
> > Matt
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Mitchell <
> david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Scott (and others)
> > I've got a minivan if we want to get a carpool going.
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, scott tran<scott.t...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Count me in.
> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM, David Mitchell <
> david.mitch...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> That would be worth taking a couple of half-days off for a roadtrip for
> >>> me.
> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Taylor<rhyoli...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Google Wave is a nascent communication tool being developed with an
> >>> > attitude
> >>> > of "if email were invented today, what would it be?" For an
> >>> > excellent
> >>> > and
> >>> > interesting demo of Google Wave, see this presentation from
> >>> > the unveiling at
> >>> > Google IO.
> >>> > It looks very cool, perhaps even "game-changing". To try out
> >>> > the Google
> >>> > Wave API, you need to sign up for a sandbox developer's account.
> There
> >>> > is
> >>> > also adeveloper's guide.
> >>> > Although Google has promised to give out sandbox accounts to the
> >>> > 20,000+
> >>> > people waiting to get one, it is not clear just how fast this will be
> >>> > done.
> >>> > I have assurance that if we can organize a Wave Hackfest, all
> attendees
> >>> > will
> >>> > get sandbox developer accounts. I've already got a location lined up
> >>> > with a
> >>> > training room and network connections. All I need is an interested
> >>> > group of
> >>> > people.
> >>> > I know KC is a few hours away, but I wanted to let you have a chance
> to
> >>> > go
> >>> > if interested.
> >>> > Please see this page if
> >>> > interested: http://weblog.dangertree.net/stl-google-wave-hackfest/ > >>> > ---
> >>> > Matthew Taylor
> >>> > http://dangertree.net