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[kc-fabricators] Re: Is One of Our Open Source Heroes Going Closed Source? by Rob Giseburt
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:01:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Open Manufacturing] Re: [kc-fabricators] Re: Is One of Our Open
Source Heroes Going Closed Source? by Rob Giseburt
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The .thing file format is really just a zip file. Inside it are the .stl
and .obj files that are to be printed.
-justin
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Luis E. Rodriguez <lrodriguezm...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> I did not initiate it.
>
> Luis E. Rodriguez
> Are you a Maker? <http://www.makerfairekc.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Jordan Miller <jrdn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bryan-- are you gonna make a thingiverse to git repo converter soon?
>>
>> Luis-- did your thingiverse cloning script run finish? how big was the
>> repo?
>>
>> jordan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Andrew Back <and...@carrierdetect.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 20 September 2012 06:06, Jordan Miller <jrdn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I don't even know if it's legal for them to go closed source now.
>> >> isn't the replicator v1 GPL v3??
>> >
>> > If they own all the copyrights I suspect they can do as they please,
>> > e.g. as with licensing changes with new revisions of open source
>> > software and dual (proprietary and open source) licensed software.
>> >
>> > It would be interesting to see if there's anything that could be
>> > considered derivative of RepRap, since they don't get to do as they
>> > please with that IP. But I imagine if there were any RepRap IP they
>> > will have been careful to remove it (in hardware this may just just
>> > involve re-drawing something), and even if there were a case against
>> > them they have much deeper pockets now...
>> >
>> > Of course, IANAL.
>> >
>> > I see a worrying theme in open source hardware: open source until it
>> > doesn't suit me. But ultimately "bait and switch" and "open source
>> > until I send you a take down" strategies are very short-sighted, as
>> > open source software folks have recognised for quite some time.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andrew Back
>> > http://carrierdetect.com
>> >
>> > --
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The .thing file format is really just a zip file. Inside it are the .stl an=
d .obj files that are to be printed.<div>-justin<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Luis E. Rodriguez <span dir=3D"ltr=
"><<a href=3D"mailto:lrodriguezm...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lrodrig=
uezm...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I did not=A0initiate=A0it.<div><div class=3D=
"im"><br clear=3D"all">Luis E. Rodriguez<div><a href=3D"http://www.makerfai=
rekc.com/" target=3D"_blank">Are you a Maker?</a><br>
<div><br></div></div><br>
<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep=
20, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Jordan Miller <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:jrdn...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jrdn...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Bryan-- are you gonna make a thingiverse to git repo converter soon?<br>
<br>
Luis-- did your thingiverse cloning script run finish? how big was the repo=
?<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
jordan<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Andrew Back <<a href=3D"mailto:andrew@carri=
erdetect.com" target=3D"_blank">and...@carrierdetect.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On 20 September 2012 06:06, Jordan Miller <<a href=3D"mailto:jrdnml=
r...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jrdn...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I don't even know if it's legal for them to go closed sour=
ce now.<br>
>> isn't the replicator v1 GPL v3??<br>
><br>
> If they own all the copyrights I suspect they can do as they please,<b=
r>
> e.g. as with licensing changes with new revisions of open source<br>
> software and dual (proprietary and open source) licensed software.<br>
><br>
> It would be interesting to see if there's anything that could be<b=
r>
> considered derivative of RepRap, since they don't get to do as the=
y<br>
> please with that IP. But I imagine if there were any RepRap IP they<br=
>
> will have been careful to remove it (in hardware this may just just<br=
>
> involve re-drawing something), and even if there were a case against<b=
r>
> them they have much deeper pockets now...<br>
><br>
> Of course, IANAL.<br>
><br>
> I see a worrying theme in open source hardware: open source until it<b=
r>
> doesn't suit me. But ultimately "bait and switch" and &q=
uot;open source<br>
> until I send you a take down" strategies are very short-sighted, =
as<br>
> open source software folks have recognised for quite some time.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Andrew Back<br>
> <a href=3D"http://carrierdetect.com" target=3D"_blank">http://carrierd=
etect.com</a><br>
><br>
> --<br>
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