A new Garden

[eckoit]

Hi all, I am cross posting this from the CouchDB users mailing list as it is relavent here. Basically we have now an easy way to distribute kanso apps.

Checkout http://garden20.com

The idea is really to provide an open platform for both developers and end users, all firmly rooted in couchdb.

For users, it could not be simpler to install an app anywhere. With a few steps a user could be running your app in the cloud with no installation headaches. They will be able to choose downloads for most platforms, as well as the option of a private couch provided by IrisCouch. It is all hopefully very frictionless.

For developers it solves many distribution problems. Its very easy to make new apps using the existing couch tool-chains. You can even retrofit existing couchapps quickly an put them in the market. Also, the garden provides a very good way to push and manage updates. Another wall hit by developers is
the private data scenario. You could even have them install the app, work with private data locally (or in a private cloud) and setup a sync back to a central place.

I hope the community will pitch in and create or retrofit some amazing apps. Here are some ideas:

- Apps that make it easy to quickly get a public site going. Forum apps, issue trackers, etc
- Collaboration apps that will work together.
- Personal apps that can sync to a private hosted space, and between a users devices.

Thanks, and please provide me with any feedback, ideas, bugs or whatever!

[Ged Wed]

looks really fantastic.

i am wondering if kanso is making use of pouchdb to allow offline apps to function . do you know ?

g

[Ryan Ramage]

Ged,

Kanso is not directly integrated with pouch, although there is a pouch
package available:

http://kan.so/packages/details/pouch

We can offer some guidance about using pouch with kanso. If needed.

Ryan

[Matt J. Sorenson]

I vaguely recall trying garden awhile back and it hung when I tried to register. Tried it again (successfully) last week... and this seems like a really powerful concept! I've not had the good fortune to be able to work on couchapps full-time -- just a small bit of moonlighting & hobbyist stuff -- but it is probably the most intriguing appdev I've tinkered with in the past couple years. This new garden and some of the sample apps inspire me to want to do more!

good work Ryan, et.al :)

[Ryan Ramage]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Matt J. Sorenson <ma...@sorensonbros.net> wrote:
> I vaguely recall trying garden awhile back and it hung when I tried to
> register. Tried it again (successfully) last week... and this seems like a

Yes, the whole thing is a couchapp, except there is one small node
process to handle web signups. It had a few glitches but I think they
are all ironed out. Glad you persisted and tried again.

> really powerful concept! I've not had the good fortune to be able to work on
> couchapps full-time -- just a small bit of moonlighting & hobbyist stuff --
> but it is probably the most intriguing appdev I've tinkered with in the past
> couple years. This new garden and some of the sample apps inspire me to want
> to do more!

It's hard to find a place to do couchapps fulltime :) But yes, I
think we can turn this couchapp ship around. It has been a lot of work
to try and piece a cohesive picture of the garden, but I think we are
getting there. I really wanted to get to a point to start to spread
the vision of what they can become. I think it also will help drive a
bit of couchdb (and dare say refuge) development to support even more
powerful apps. But for now any time you can spare making some apps to
put into the garden would be fantastic.

>
> good work Ryan, et.al :)
>

Thanks for your kind words. The et.al is so true...this is all build
on so many peoples efforts.

[Gabriel Mancini]

i can't create a new account user in http://garden20.com/account

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[Ryan Ramage]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gabriel Mancini
<gabriel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i can't create a new account user in http://garden20.com/account
>
>

Is there a place where you got that link from? There is only this:

http://garden20.com/get

That is where you can get a new garden created.

[Matt J. Sorenson]

One of the many ideas/thoughtsparks that flashed across my mind - is: garden as a distributed app marketplace platform for boot2gecko/firefoxOS. I don't know if that's even close to the vision, or what it would take for that to become a reality... but it appealed to me as a synergistic marriage of two opensource technologies that currently have high potential, low uptake.

[Matt J. Sorenson]

I wasn't even aware of refuge - wow, looks powerful. it's building on my system as I type this...

I think it also will help drive a bit of couchdb (and dare say refuge) development to support even more
powerful apps. 
>

> good work Ry

[Gabriel Mancini]

the link to http://garden20.com/account is here https://github.com/garden20/baseline-garden-app

[Ryan Ramage]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Gabriel Mancini
<gabriel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the link to http://garden20.com/account is here
> https://github.com/garden20/baseline-garden-app
>

Ahh, ok, thanks. I forget about that. Its on my todo...create
developer accounts. Sorry about the dead link.

If you want to create an account to push an app, for now just use
futon to signup here:

https://garden20.iriscouch.com/_utils/

[Ryan Ramage]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Matt J. Sorenson
<ma...@sorensonbros.net> wrote:
> One of the many ideas/thoughtsparks that flashed across my mind - is: garden
> as a distributed app marketplace platform for boot2gecko/firefoxOS. I don't
> know if that's even close to the vision, or what it would take for that to
> become a reality... but it appealed to me as a synergistic marriage of two
> opensource technologies that currently have high potential, low uptake.
>

I will cc Dale Harvey on this. I am aware of boot2gecko and would love
to somehow work together, but I have no idea how that would work.

Dale, any opinion?