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Alex Figueiredo  
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 More options Apr 13 2012, 8:19 am
From: Alex Figueiredo <alexxfsi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:19:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 13 2012 8:19 am
Subject: Visual Studio 2008

How can I use JuiceUI with Visual Studio 2008?


 
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Andrew Powell (appendTo)  
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 More options Apr 13 2012, 9:07 am
From: "Andrew Powell (appendTo)" <apow...@appendto.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:07:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 13 2012 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2008

At the moment, JuiceUI is built on .NET 4.0. Unfortunately VS2008 doesn't
support .NET 4.0.

Visual Studio 2008 is over four years old now. If possible, I'd highly
recommend upgrading, asking for an upgrade from your employer or using one
of the Express development tools that are free to download from Microsoft.
You'll still be able to maintain .NET 2, 3, and 3.5 projects with the newer
version of VS.


 
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John Kattenhorn  
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 More options Apr 17 2012, 8:40 am
From: John Kattenhorn <john.kattenh...@miltonbridge.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 05:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 17 2012 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2008

Hi,

I have a web application which is no allowed to be upgraded from .Net 3.5
SP1 to .Net 4.0; so I use VS2010 but I'd like to second that it would be
great to have a 3.5 version of Juice.

Thanks

John


 
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Andrew Powell (appendTo)  
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 More options Apr 17 2012, 9:03 am
From: "Andrew Powell (appendTo)" <apow...@appendto.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 17 2012 9:03 am
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2008

Many changes to the code would be necessary to support 3.5. What we'd end
up having to do is maintaining two separate versions of the project and
releasing two separate versions every time we did a release. Unfortunately
this is not something we can support at this time.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to help you through building your own copy to
support 3.5. You'll have to fork the project at github and maintain the 3.5
copy in your own fork. The first step once you have your own fork of
JuiceUI would be to change the target .NET version in the project
properties and attempt a build. You'll get a lot of build errors. If you
post these errors, I can tell you how to resolve them. It'll be a process,
but you'll end up with your own functioning version for 3.5.


 
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John Kattenhorn  
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 More options Apr 17 2012, 9:17 am
From: John Kattenhorn <john.kattenh...@miltonbridge.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 17 2012 9:17 am
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2008

Hi,

I've already done this and started to investigate the compiler errors; it's
not too bad I hope; here is the output :

Error 1 The type or namespace name 'Concurrent' does not exist in the
namespace 'System.Collections' (are you missing an assembly reference?)
C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\Framework\JuiceWidgetState.cs 2 26
JuiceUI
Error 2 The type or namespace name 'PreApplicationStartMethodAttribute'
does not exist in the namespace 'System.Web' (are you missing an assembly
reference?) C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\JuiceApp.cs 8 23 JuiceUI
Error 3 The type or namespace name 'PreApplicationStartMethod' does not
exist in the namespace 'System.Web' (are you missing an assembly reference?)
C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\JuiceApp.cs 8 23 JuiceUI
Error 4 The type or namespace name 'ScriptResourceDefinition' could not be
found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\Framework\CssResourceDefinition.cs 8
39 JuiceUI
Error 5 The type or namespace name 'ScriptResourceMapping' could not be
found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\Framework\CssResourceMapping.cs 9 36
JuiceUI
Error 6 The type or namespace name 'ConcurrentDictionary' could not be
found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
C:\Development\Projects\JuiceUI\Juice\Framework\JuiceWidgetState.cs 21 27
JuiceUI

This mostly seems to be related to new functionality in the ScriptManager
in .Net 4.0. I was considering defining an interface which allow me to wrap
functionality from the ScriptManager and then build a 3.5 implementation of
the interface.

Unfortunately the ScriptManager in 3.5 the update panel and having to
support both JQuery and AjaxToolkit controls at the same time was the
reason I came searching for JuiceUI in the first place! And just to make it
even harder all of these controls are rendered dynamically in code!

Any pointers you could give me would be much appreciated as I'm under some
time pressure (aren't we all) :-)

Thanks


 
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Andrew Powell (appendTo)  
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 More options Apr 17 2012, 9:41 am
From: "Andrew Powell (appendTo)" <apow...@appendto.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 17 2012 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2008

When we analyzed what it would take to do this internally, we settled on
the practice of 'extending' the missing methods and such as the best route
to take. It would allow for the least amount of friction as new versions of
JuiceUI are released. You're basically filling the holes in 3.5. (What the
javascript community calls a "polyfill")

I'll try to itemize these for you:

Concurrent Collections - Basically a thread-safe collection.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.collections.concurrent... best bet is to take something like this thread-safe dictionary
implementation
http://www.grumpydev.com/2010/02/25/thread-safe-dictionarytkeytvalue/ and
re-work the naming and any method/property names to match the Concurrent
implementation in .NEt 4.0.

PreApplicationStartMethod - This defines what should run even before
App_Start is executed. This one will be a little trickier to implement and
may involve forcing users to add code to their Global.asax(.cs) file. I
don't have a solid suggestion for you on this one other than recommending
than to leave the current code in place and create classes to compensate
for the missing ones, and just use that code in whatever your final
solution is.

ScriptResourceMapping & ScriptResourceDefinition - This is where the big
differences come into play. Again, the best route is to extend
ScriptManager to handle these methods. These classes are relatively small
and can be pulled verbatim from .NET 4 through a tool like Reflector
(though I try not to recommend that tool after RedGate took it over). The
trick is wiring up the other methods to tie into the correct methods in
.NET 3.5.


 
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