[juglugano] Bad feelings about closures in Java 7

[Mario Fusco]

I am copying and past below the last Neal Gafter's email posted on the
lambda-dev mailing list. I am sorry to notice that my worst forecasts
about having closures in Java 7 (or about the process through which
they are going to be defined) weren't so far from reality. Continuing
the discussion of yesterday evening, I don't know if this is a good
enough reason to look for something different than java, but I must
admit that my feelings about the future of the language are not so
good. And now I also have one more clue about why Gosling left Oracle
so suddenly.

What do you think about it? Do you consider this email relevant or
just a bit more than a curiosity?

Bye
Mario
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Given the lack of progress on project lambda evidenced over this
mailing
list in the past couple of months, the previously published schedule
appears
unlikely. I am skeptical of Oracle's continued commitment to this
project.
Either (a) progress has been rapid but kept internal to Oracle, in
contradiction with the previously stated goal to develop the
specification
in the open, or (b) there has been no progress, in contradiction with
the
previous promise to devote a sufficient number of skilled language
designers
and implementers to complete the work within the published schedule.

I understand that priorities can change, especially in the wake of a
corporate merger, but rather than pretending that the previous
commitments
don't exist, it would be very nice to be told which is the current
state of
affairs.

Cheers,
Neal


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[Indrit Selimi]

I think that the relevant part is that is impossible, as Neal says, to have some information about "current state of affairs".
All this story has some mysterious facets, I'm continuing to google-probe periodically the argument and I haven't yet understand what is going on. I don't know if this is a sufficient reason to abandon the language but I'm 'slowly' recognizing that nowadays the most relevant innovations aren't coming from java. I'm starting to believe that Java is becoming the new C...

Indrit

PS: I want to share a nice(at least for me) article by Misko (http://misko.hevery.com/2010/04/07/move-over-java-i-have-fallen-in-love-with-javascript/) related to the 'language' argument