NewMediaJournalism

[Maurreen Skowran]

I found this site today, via an old link at Adrian Holovaty's blog:
http://www.nemejo.com/

The type of thinking is very fresh but somewhat fuzzy to me.

Here's the ledes from the home page.

Compilations & Compositions
Lets flip the narrative on its head.
What if the daily news were treated as a composition that included
the days news, while articles were treated a compilation of
interviews, opinions, and archived information?

Fan Fiction
What if a newspaper allowed readers to seize control of events and
public figures within a traditional news story?

We Need Better Article Tools
Any feature currently being used by 75% of the top information
sites should be abstracted into to the browser.

If They Had A Baby
Associated Press and Google Base
The AP is an anachronism. Structured data is what digital
journalism feasts upon. Lets stop moving the same story from point a
to point b.

It is a little annoying to me that the site doesn't say who is behind
it.

[Tracy Record, WSB Editor]

fascinating, it's someone here in Seattle:
http://g.nemejo.com/resume/

TR


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Maurreen Skowran <maurree...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Maurreen Skowran]

OK, I feel dumb. How did you find his resume? --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Tracy Record, WSB Editor <westsea...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Tracy Record, WSB Editor]

did "who is" on the domain
many of course are privately registered but in his case, it was registered to gary love ... had noticed a post on the site attributed to "g"

so I googled
"gary love" nemejo (whoever it was who taught me about the boolean quotes many years ago, I owe them a large sum of cash)

and voila.

[Tish Grier]

I took a look at the site this a.m.--the essay titled "fan fiction" is wildly insulting and ignorant. Why should "the people" want to create fiction out of a real news story? That's like an exercise from a high-school creative writing class.

Is that what this guy thinks of newspaper readership? he needs a wake-up call....

And why do so many in the journalism field believe it's up to "the people" to save newspapers--usually by doing the work of journalists for free? It's not the people's problem that newspapers are leveraged to the hilt. That's ownership's problem. And it's up to ownership to either do something about it, or sell the paper to someone, or some group, that's willing to take on the debit and do some innovation.

the people can't save newspapers. only businesspeople (because it might not be business *men*) with money, who have a concern for democracy, can save newspapers. who those businesspeople are is, right now, unknown.


Gary Love needs to be brought into the real discussions that are going on His ideas are pretty creaky and insulting.

Tish

> I took a look at the site this a.m.--the essay titled "fan fiction" is wildly insulting and ignorant. Why should "the people" want to create fiction out of a real news story? That's like an exercise from a high-school creative writing class.

Is that what this guy thinks of newspaper readership? he needs a wake-up call....

And why do so many in the journalism field believe it's up to "the people" to save newspapers--usually by doing the work of journalists for free? It's not the people's problem that newspapers are leveraged to the hilt. That's ownership's problem. And it's up to ownership to either do something about it, or sell the paper to someone, or some group, that's willing to take on the debit and do some innovation.

the people can't save newspapers. only businesspeople (because it might not be business *men*) with money, who have a concern for democracy, can save newspapers. who those businesspeople are is, right now, unknown.


Gary Love needs to be brought into the real discussions that are going on His ideas are pretty creaky and insulting.

Tish

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[Persephone]

Tish!
Businesspeople are only going to save businesses, never democracy!
It's a historical accident that America entrusted such a vast share of
the fundamental functions of media in a democracy to commercial
companies. Now, the combination of professional journalism culture and
the world's highest per capita advertising market that made it
(mostly) work is gone. Forever. It's not that people need to do the
journalism they need to support real public media. In my opinion,
of course.
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[Tish Grier]

Problem is that newspapers *aren't* public media. they're owned by groups that want to make profits--and that's part of why they got so bloody leveraged. If they were public media, then the public might willing to make contributions.

But, that's not the case. and that's also a model that may not work well in our capitalist society.

Still, that whole bit of the people turning a news article into fiction really bugs me. it's also ignorant of the crowdsourced novel writing projects that have already happened.. criminey.

Tish




--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Persephone <perseph...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Maurreen Skowran]

About the fan fiction, which doesn't wholly encompass the site, I
think a bigger problem might be the potential to be confused with the
real things.
- Maurreen

[Persephone]

I never meant to imply that they are. My point is I see no reason at
all to "save newspapers." I want to save (and improve) a very specific
subset of what newspapers do and I am convinced that existing
newspaper publishers (not the joutnalists or editors) are mostly a
hindrance to doing that.
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