Americans agree with President Obama--not Rush Limbaugh--when it comes to gay marriage
Kyle Curtis
Seriously, STFU fatty....
http://mediamatters.org/research/201205090023
Americans Disagree With Rush Limbaugh On Marriage Equality
Obama: "I Think Same Sex Couples Should Be Able To Get Married"
On ABC, Obama Voiced Support For Marriage Equality. In an interview with ABC News correspondent Robin Roberts, Obama stated: "[A]t a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that same sex couples should be able to get married":
"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married," Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC's "Good Morning America" Thursday. [ABC News, 5/9/12]
Limbaugh: Obama Is "Waging" A "War" On Marriage, Catholic Church
Limbaugh: Obama "Is Going To Lead A War On Traditional Marriage." Limbaugh repeatedly accused Obama of "waging" or "leading" a "war" on "traditional marriage" on his radio show today:
LIMBAUGH: We've arrived at a point where the president of the United States is going to lead a war on traditional marriage. You want to call that winning? Your side is winning when the president has to lead a war on traditional marriage?
[...]
LIMBAUGH: Obama and people like [caller] are trying to turn traditional institutions on their head. And people like me who are minding their own business all of a sudden have to stand up and defend these traditions and institutions from people like you, and now the president who's waging a war on traditional America.
[...]
LIMBAUGH: Marriage is a word. It has a specific meaning. And all of a sudden, some people came along and said 'well, we want to change the definition.' No, you don't want to change the definition. You want to corrupt the institution is what you want to do. 'How dare you say that? We don't want to - we want in on the institution.' Well then, marry a woman. Or marry a man. That's what marriage is.
LIMBAUGH: There's no other way to characterize it, Barack Obama is leading a war on gay marriage, just like he's leading a war on the Catholic Church, the war on stay-at-home moms.
[...]
LIMBAUGH: It's official. Obama supports gay marriage after talks with his wife and daughters, gay service members, and others. Pink smoke coming from the White House chimney. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 5/9/12 via Media Matters]
Most Americans Support Marriage Equality
Gallup: More Americans Support Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage. From a May 2012 Gallup poll:
[Gallup, 5/8/12]
Pew Research Center President: "Acceptance Of Gay Marriage Has Grown Steadily Over The Past Eight Years." Pew Research Center president Andrew Kohut recently wrote:
Acceptance of gay marriage has grown steadily over the past eight years. By 2008, support for gay marriage had risen to 39 percent, while opposition had slipped to 52 percent. And in recent years, support has markedly increased as opposition has ebbed. Today, the latest Pew Research Center survey finds a 47 to 43 percent plurality favoring gay marriage, with as many Americans saying they strongly favor (22 percent) as saying they strongly oppose (22 percent).
Much of the growing support for gay marriage is generational. Majorities of the millennial generation, who were a very small share of the electorate in 2004 when the gay marriage issue rallied the conservative base, have grown in number and have consistently favored. But also, many older Americans have changed their minds. Since 2004, support for gay marriage has increased from 30 percent to 40 percent among baby boomers, and even among seniors (from 18 percent to 32 percent). (On balance, though, most members of this generation remain opposed, at 56 percent.)
A good deal of increased support for gay marriage reflects growing public acceptance of homosexuality. In 1994, when the Pew Research Center first began asking the public about societal acceptance, Americans were evenly divided as to whether homosexuality should be accepted or discouraged. However, views changed markedly over the next 17 years. By 2011, 58 percent of the public said it favored acceptance while just a third (33 percent) continued to favor discouragement.
While there remains a huge partisan gap on acceptance of homosexuality in general and gay marriage specifically, the political prospects for the issue are far different than they were two election cycles ago. It has become a lower priority issue for voters, and the partisan intensity gap is not as overwhelmingly one sided as it once was. Today there are almost as many strong supporters of gay marriage among Democrats (34 percent) as there are strong opponents among Republicans (40 percent). [The New York Times, 4/16/12]
Public Support For Gay Marriage "Has Accelerated Dramatically In The Last 2 Years." A July 2011 poll from the Benenson Strategy Group and Voter Consumer Research found that support for marriage equality "has increased over the years and that the rate of increase has accelerated dramatically in the last 2 years."
[Freedom to Marry, 7/27/11]
Pew: "Broad Declines In Opposition To Gay Marriage." From a 2012 Pew Research Center study showing large declines in opposition to same-sex marriage, including among Catholics:
[Pew Research Center, 4/25/12]
Limbaugh Has A History Of Engaging In Bigoted Attacks Against LGBT Community
Limbaugh: Marriage Equality Is "Ripp[ing]" Marriage "To Shreds." During the February 24, 2012, edition of his show, Limbaugh commented on a judge ruling the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional:
LIMBAUGH: Just took it upon himself to say that a piece of legislation is unconstitutional. Defending traditional values is not modern? It's off topic? Attacking them is modern and good politics? That's what we're to believe here? All we're doing is defending traditional values. All we're doing is defending the institutions and the traditions that have made this country great, and apparently that's what you're not supposed to do? "No, no, don't do that! Mr. Limbaugh, you're just gonna make people nervous. Women aren't going to understand." You wouldn't believe the emails. "Rush, women's brains can't compute this way. You're making a big mistake here by just bringing this up." Oh, so we can't defend all these great traditions, but the left can attack them? The left can attack them and rip them apart and tear them down, and that's good politics? Is that what we're to believe? We're supposed to sit by while great traditions and institutions like marriage are ripped to shreds. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 2/24/12]
Limbaugh Denigrated Slain LGBTQ Teen For Exploring His Sexuality. On the November 22, 2011, edition of his show, Limbaugh claimed that Larry King, a 15-year-old openly gay student who was killed by a reportedly homophobic classmate, was exploring whether he needed a "chop-a-dick-offa'-me operation," stating:
LIMBAUGH: He was showing up in school dressed as a woman -- was wearing dresses. He was bothering the other boys. His mother called the school. She was worried about her son's behavior. She asked the school to keep a sharp eye out for him, that she was worried that his behavior was going to cause something unfortunate to happen to him. We're talking 14-, and 15-, 16-year-olds here. Her son dresses up as a woman, goes to school, and starts lavishing attention on other boys.
When she told school officials about this, she says, again, that school officials told her that there was nothing they could do. That her son had a civil right to explore his sexual identity, meaning he had a right to come to school dressed as a girl. He had a right to come to school dressed in female attire -- he was wearing dresses. He had a right to explore whether or not he was a woman in a boy's body. He had the right to explore whether at some point he was going to need a chop-a-dick-offa'-me operation. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 11/22/11]
Limbaugh Ridiculed Gender Reassignment Surgery. On the January 19, 2011, edition of his show, Limbaugh called gender reassignment surgery an "add-a-dick-to-me" procedure, saying:
LIMBAUGH: Let me put this in perspective for you, folks. The Democrats and the media put forth this challenge -- oh, what are you gonna cut? You're saying you're going to cut spending -- what are you gonna cut? What are you gonna cut? And then we hear that the city of Berkeley is going to start paying for chop -- add-a-dick-to-me's. Sex change operations. And they -- what do we want to cut? Well, I ask you. [Premiere Radio Networks,The Rush Limbaugh Show, 1/19/11]
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Number of traditional marriages destroyed personally by Rush Limbaugh: 3
Number of traditional marriages destroyed by Barack Obama’s support of same sex marriage: 0
Drew
Genesis 16
And Sarai
Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had
dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her
husband Abram to be his wife.
Stupid facts and their liberal bias!
--
Buaidh no bas
Brent Wolters
Alex Romero
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/10/bristol-palin-too-much-glee-in-obama-decision/comment-page-26/
She has never been married and isn't gay, and she took after momma and had pre-marital sex without protection and got knocked up....seems like Lil Miss Seagram's needs to shut the fuck up.
Daniel Curtis
If hay zoos of Nazareth truly were the father of Christianity you'd think Christians might do a better job living their lives according to his teaching.
At this point in history its clear the true fathers of Christianity were the good folks at the council of nicaea, whatever Roman emporer it was that decided to accept Christianity (constatine?), and anyone else who has played a part in twisting the teachings of a good man to get their people to fall in line.
mydoglogan
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Drew,You make a good case for polygamy but an extremely compelling case AGAINST gay marriage: If you read Genesis 16 you'll discover that Abram's wife, Sarai was childless and as a result, she insisted that Abram reproduce with her slave Hagai.One of the key components of marriage is and always will be the (potential) ability to reproduce naturally.Was Canaan the birthplace of Christianity? Um, No. That would be BethlehamWas Abraham the father of Christianity? Um, No. That would be the Jesus of Nazareth.
The biggest lie of this whole dialog is the revisionist nuvo-Christian claim that for all (8K, or is it 10K years since The Creation - Oh, sorry, Tony Perkins just told me on TV that its 5K years) of recorded history, marriage has been between one man and one woman. These idiots apparently don't even read their own holy book. The bible is full of good men of God with multiple concurrent wives. Abraham, the father of Christianity (and, arguably Judaism and Islam), was married to both Sarai and Hagar at the same time.
Genesis 16
And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
The list goes on. Because for most of human history, especially in the birthplace of Christianity, marriage often between a man married to many women (as Mitt's great grandfather practiced). And numerous matriarchal cultures practiced polyandry - one woman, multiple husbands.
Stupid facts and their liberal bias!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Juneau Smog <junea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Limbaugh: "People like me, who are minding their own business, all of a sudden have to stand up and defend these traditions and instutions from people like...the president, who's waging a war on traditional America."Bwahahahahahaha! OMG! It's true! Rush Limbaugh truly is an entertainer. That is some hilarious shit! Mr. I've-Been-Married-Three-Times has to now defend traditional marriage!? omg, LOLOLOL!Number of traditional marriages destroyed personally by Rush Limbaugh: 3
Number of traditional marriages destroyed by Barack Obama’s support of same sex marriage: 0
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Juneau Smog <junea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the most important chart on the consequences of gay marriage!
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Alex Romero
Alex Romero
You can take all that and stick it straight up your ass....i don't care if you didn't bring it up first.
Alex Romero
Juneau Smog
Juneau Smog
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Alex Romero
Sarah was menopausal if she wasn't much younger than 100 years old genius!...sweet lord what a tool...look, just shut up already Tubbs, you can't prove anything with your archaic book.
Juneau Smog
Alex Romero
"Sorry Honey, i don't feel fertile tonight."
"Orgasm? you can conceive without those frivolous things, back to the kitchen woman!"
With a hubby like Brent she is porbably frigid anyway. Just pretend she is a slave and hook her up with a real man, Brent...bet she would like some sex from a real man.
Juneau Smog
Alex Romero
Sex is an expression of LOVE, and more than an act to over populate the planet.
Kyle Curtis
That was the Christian thing to do, correct? Oh, wait, Leviticus is in the Old Testament, so it has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ. Oh my, I may have stoned to death my neighbor for no good reason?
Drew
So you claim its all about procreation. But, as other have already stated, many married folk never procreate. Many unmarried folks do. In large numbers in both categories. Your argument is demonstrably false. As is your argument that marriage has been defined as between one man and one woman for all time.
The fact is, the bible very clearly shows that the God of Abraham was just fine with men with multiple wives. If you can't even get the facts straight on your own theology, what makes you think you can shove your re-written, faux-Christian theology down the throats of Americans who don't share your misguided faith? What makes you thing we'll let that happen any longer?
And, yes, I brought up the bible because its what you base your entire way of life on, and what you and your ilk intend to impose on the rest of America - government driven by a religious ideology not actually based on your own scriptures, but one you warp to match your bigoted, homophobic, misogonystic belief system.
As has been said many times by many people this week, you are on the wrong side of history, But you already know that. That's why the rabid dogs of conservatism have so forcefully imposed their anti-choice, anti-labor, anti-immigrant, anti-gay agenda - instead of working on jobs bills as promised - since the last election. They know that whites in general, and white men in particular, will soon be a minority in this country, with the brown folk outnumbering whitey in a few short years. They know that acceptance of gays\lesbians and same sex marriage has grown by leaps and bounds over the past 4-5 years, and is now supported by the majority. You know the young overwhelmingly accept the idea of same sex marriage. You know that your way of life is dying because of its own failings, not because of any outside influence from the liberal left.
You were lead to believe that Christian White Men would rule this country, and through the use of our military power, the world, until the time of Christ's return. And you're starting to realize that was a lie. And you and your friends in the Aryan nation are freaking out and lashing out in one last attempt to save your grip on power. Well, Jesus aint coming back, and the People of The Sun are coming back around again - slowly reclaiming the land taken from the by force a few centuries ago.
I for one welcome our future gay brown skinned overlords. Diversity is the key to evolution. Its time for the America of the Christian White Male to die so that humanity can evolve. We're coming for you Brent.
sent from my phone
One of the key components of marriage is and always will be the (potential) ability to reproduce naturally. Go read Genesis 17. Even Sarah eventually produced a child, Isaac.
In other words, sterile or barren hetero marriages are an abomination.
The stupid. It hurts.
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brent Wolters <brenton...@comcast.net> wrote:
Drew,You make a good case for polygamy but an extremely compelling case AGAINST gay marriage: If you read Genesis 16 you'll discover that Abram's wife, Sarai was childless and as a result, she insisted that Abram reproduce with her slave Hagai.One of the key components of marriage is and always will be the (potential) ability to reproduce naturally.Was Canaan the birthplace of Christianity? Um, No. That would be BethlehamWas Abraham the father of Christianity? Um, No. That would be the Jesus of Nazareth.
The biggest lie of this whole dialog is the revisionist nuvo-Christian claim that for all (8K, or is it 10K years since The Creation - Oh, sorry, Tony Perkins just told me on TV that its 5K years) of recorded history, marriage has been between one man and one woman. These idiots apparently don't even read their own holy book. The bible is full of good men of God with multiple concurrent wives. Abraham, the father of Christianity (and, arguably Judaism and Islam), was married to both Sarai and Hagar at the same time.
Genesis 16
And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
The list goes on. Because for most of human history, especially in the birthplace of Christianity, marriage often between a man married to many women (as Mitt's great grandfather practiced). And numerous matriarchal cultures practiced polyandry - one woman, multiple husbands.
Stupid facts and their liberal bias!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Juneau Smog <junea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Limbaugh: "People like me, who are minding their own business, all of a sudden have to stand up and defend these traditions and instutions from people like...the president, who's waging a war on traditional America."Bwahahahahahaha! OMG! It's true! Rush Limbaugh truly is an entertainer. That is some hilarious shit! Mr. I've-Been-Married-Three-Times has to now defend traditional marriage!? omg, LOLOLOL!Number of traditional marriages destroyed personally by Rush Limbaugh: 3
Number of traditional marriages destroyed by Barack Obama’s support of same sex marriage: 0
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Juneau Smog <junea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the most important chart on the consequences of gay marriage!
<gaymarriage.jpg>
Drew
twisted
Buaidh no bas
brenton...@comcast.net
If Obama had another son, he would look a hell of a lot like George Zimmerman. LOL.
The NBC affiliate in Florida is reporting that the medical director who performed the autopsy on Trayvon Martin found only two injuries on his body: the gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles. Welcome to the Duke lacrosse case all over again. Everything Zimmerman said about what happened to him turns out to be true after the media trying to cast him along with the civil rights coalitions of this country, the race-baiters, as abject lies. (interruption) What do you mean, not rush to judgment? It's been two months. I'm not speculating. I'm telling you what the doctor said. There's no speculation going on. The doctor is not speculating. The doctor did the exam the day after the incident happened. It's all been suppressed. Nobody's reported it. That's the point. And there wasn't even any media curiosity about it.
Now, I'm not a forensic scientist, and I don't guess on matters like this. I don't have to guess; the facts are here. It's kind of hard not to connect the dots. Now, all of this information is coming out. You know why it's coming out? Because we're in the discovery phase of the Zimmerman trial, where each side has to show the other side what evidence they have. But you really have to wonder here, folks, why none of this came out before in the prosecutor's charging affidavit. Can we go back to that? The charging affidavit, which, remember Dershowitz at Harvard said it was an embarrassment that wouldn't survive the first inspection by a judge, but it did. But he said it was pathetic, it was unprofessional.
I happened to report what Dershowitz said and my own affiliate in Jacksonville called the attorney's office, "What do you think about what Limbaugh said about your charging document?" None of this is in the charging document, or the affidavit. I thought that the state was obligated, or obliged, anyway, to provide all the relevant details in a case to the judge, but apparently I was mistaken. But, anyway, as I said, ladies and gentlemen, the news media seem to be ignoring these developments. I mean they're out there, touched on a little bit by ABC. But the news that I just gave you has barely been mentioned on the cable news channels. I don't watch it, but I'm told that MSNBC only got around to reporting this about an hour ago, and they ran a banner at the bottom of the screen that said, "Proof of self-defense? Trayvon Martin family lawyer calls medical report suspicious."
So the doctor puts out a report, Zimmerman's doctor, and now MSNBC is saying he might be a liar. And they have to because they gotta cover their own rear ends the way they reported this. (interruption) I don't know if Zimmerman's doctor is a white Hispanic, Mr. Snerdley. But you really have to wonder here when the news media began to lose interest in the Trayvon Martin story, 'cause you know they did. They lost interest. They were going 150 miles an hour on this story, and then all of a sudden they dropped it like a hot potato, and you have to wonder why they did that. Was it when they found out that George Zimmerman is actually Hispanic and a Democrat to boot? Was it when Trayvon Martin's gangsta-like tweets surfaced along with the more recent photos of him with his gold teeth? Maybe the news media is just afraid of whipping up racial... no, they do like to whip up racial strife. But they didn't even proceed under that rubric. They just dropped this case like a hot potato.
Another detail that has come out in the local reports. Zimmerman's grandfather was black. That's exactly right. That has also surfaced. I wonder how long all of this stuff has been known by our friends in the Drive-By Media? George Zimmerman has more black in him than Elizabeth Warren has Indian.
Alex Romero
And in bigger news, glad the stand your ground laws are being reviewed as they let murderers like Zimmerman off the hook without any trial.
I still say Zimmerman self inflicted himself. Knuckles can be scuffed when initially tackled and shot as well. But better leave it to the courts, like O.J.
Kyle Curtis
Let's not forget, if there was no cause to press charges, the DA wouldn't have taken up the case.
In other news, did you hear about the woman who was sentenced to 20 years for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband? "Stand your ground" my ass... just as long as you're not a woman fearing for your life from an abusive partner!
Alex Romero <axm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>thank goodness the courts are handling this, and not the police chief who
>quit.
>
>And in bigger news, glad the *stand your ground* laws are being reviewed as
>they let murderers like Zimmerman off the hook without any trial.
>
>I still say Zimmerman self inflicted himself. Knuckles can be scuffed when
>initially tackled and shot as well. But better leave it to the courts, like
>O.J.
>
>On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM, <brenton...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> * If Obama had another son, he would look a hell of a lot like George
>> Zimmerman. LOL.*
>>
>> **
>> Warren has Indian<http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/05/04/warren_s_campaign_goes_up_in_smoke>
brenton...@comcast.net
thank goodness that the liberal media isn't handling this or GZ would have been hung for committing the sin of being a 'white hispanic' who had the audacity to defended himself from a black thug.
Subject: Re: Why the Left Dropped the Trayvon Story
brenton...@comcast.net
Totally different case.
"She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her gun and went back into the house."
Alex Romero
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Kyle Curtis
Other than the fact that different people are involved so of course its a different case, what makes it different? Is it b/c in one case we have a dead black kid so its okay for the killer to be free, and in the other we have a black woman firing a WARNING SHOT so its okay for her to get 20 years?
Do you have any idea how much of a fucking moron you sound? Or, do you even care?
Alex Romero
Juneau Smog
brenton...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: Why the Left Dropped the Trayvon Story
Alex Romero
Kyle Curtis
I guess that lets him off the hook. IT was totally okay for Zimmerman to violate Trayvon's civil rights, profiling and killing him for no reason.... because his grandfather was black?
Makes sense. if you're a moron.