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  <updated>2009-11-07T01:14:59Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Brunhera</name>
  <email>jcbrunh...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T01:14:59Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  I totally agree with you guys. The first step is understand the ISO &lt;br&gt; format &lt;br&gt; for both 2 banks. If they indicate field 32 as a bank ID, the problem &lt;br&gt; is solved. &lt;br&gt; If not, the only way is making some header information.
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  <author>
  <name>Chhil</name>
  <email>chil...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T08:35:03Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  As we all know the thousands of variations between various 8583 &lt;br&gt; implementations. To make it scalable you should probably look into &lt;br&gt; look into getting some sort of custom header prepended by the &lt;br&gt; middleman that is forwarding the messages to you after acquiring &lt;br&gt; transactions from the banks. &lt;br&gt; Or look into getting a connection per bank message.
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  <name>Mark Salter</name>
  <email>marksal...@talktalk.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T08:07:04Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Can I ask you start quoting ISO8583 source and versions and variants &lt;br&gt; please? &lt;br&gt; Field 2 - often used for PAN - is also usually variable length. So your &lt;br&gt; statement is wrong I&#39;m afraid. &lt;br&gt; As David indicates this is not a universal approach - many things will &lt;br&gt; stop it working. Having said that, it might work for your vendor&#39;s
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  <name>Mark Salter</name>
  <email>marksal...@talktalk.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T08:00:01Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  All interfaces and message structures vary in format and content, often &lt;br&gt; there are similarities; they are rarely the same, especially at the &lt;br&gt; interface level. &lt;br&gt; Why not check both your banks message specification to test this? &lt;br&gt; At this stage I &#39;hear&#39; you do believe that ISO8583 defines the field &lt;br&gt; content and field use. I would humbly suggest ISO8583 defines the
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  <author>
  <name>David Bergert</name>
  <email>dbergert...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T02:47:40Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  ISO8583 is not a fixed length format it is bitmapped - that bitmap &lt;br&gt; indicated what fields are or are not present -- then individual fields &lt;br&gt; can hold different lengths of values -- look at DE 2 or Field 2 for &lt;br&gt; PAN -- this typically indicates the length of the pan and then then &lt;br&gt; pan - up to 19 digits -- then there are the different methods of using
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  <name>kelvin</name>
  <email>kelvinwork...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T02:37:28Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Hi Alan, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;According to ISO8583 standard, field 1 to field 31 are all fixed &lt;br&gt; length fields, so I think we may get the content of field 32 only by &lt;br&gt; just skipping the first 31 fields&#39; total byte length of the iso &lt;br&gt; message.(Of course, the premise is that all banks would use field 32) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Kelvin
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  <name>kelvin</name>
  <email>kelvinwork...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-06T02:22:54Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Hi all, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks you all! &lt;br&gt; Mark&#39;s reply is what I am concerning: whether ALL banks would use &lt;br&gt; field 32? &lt;br&gt; If anybody who had seen a bank that did not use field 32, please tell &lt;br&gt; us. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Kelvin
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  <author>
  <name>Mark Salter</name>
  <email>marksal...@talktalk.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T18:27:04Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  &#39;We&#39; may find both kelvin&#39;s banks don&#39;t use field 32 either. &lt;br&gt; 8)
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  <author>
  <name>Alan Honczar</name>
  <email>ahonc...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T18:02:23Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  In order to discover the bit 32, you have to unpack the message. &lt;br&gt; Different banks MAY have different packagers... &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2009/11/5 Brunhera &amp;lt;jcbrunh...@gmail.com&amp;gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Brunhera</name>
  <email>jcbrunh...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T14:55:06Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  According to the ISO8583 standard, bit 32 must be the bank ID
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  <name>Alan Honczar</name>
  <email>ahonc...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T12:21:01Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  I had the same situation once and I&#39;ve had to rely on the TPDU. &lt;br&gt; The NII information told me whose message it was. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2009/11/5 Mark Salter &amp;lt;marksal...@talktalk.net&amp;gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Mark Salter</name>
  <email>marksal...@talktalk.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T08:13:08Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  So the markers position (field?) and other details should be easily &lt;br&gt; changed, place them in a configuration file. It seems you are assuming &lt;br&gt; that another &#39;vendor&#39; would pass you messages in the same exact format &lt;br&gt; as your current vendor? This is quite possibly *not* the case. &lt;br&gt; The fields within your ISO8583 structured messages can vary from bank to
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  <name>kelvin</name>
  <email>kelvinwork...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T02:45:29Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Hi chhil, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks for your reply! My reply to Mark&#39;s message can also answer &lt;br&gt; your question. Please help to give your opinion again. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Kelvin
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  <name>kelvin</name>
  <email>kelvinwork...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-05T02:39:29Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Mark, thanks for your reply~! &lt;br&gt; I know that your solution is the simplest way to solve my problem. &lt;br&gt; However, our company&#39;s system is not directly connected to different &lt;br&gt; banks. We get the different banks&#39; iso8583 messages from a third party &lt;br&gt; vendor through a single persistent connection(i.e all messages come
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  <author>
  <name>chhil</name>
  <email>chil...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-04T12:53:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [jpos-users] Re: Problem identifying the source of iso8583</title>
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  Is this a single connection persistent or multiple (per bank) connections &lt;br&gt; to your server or a connection is received per request (connect disconnect &lt;br&gt; model)? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Based on your model if each bank connection or you may be able to &lt;br&gt; differentiate the messages based on the local port where the connection
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