Best Practices, Articles and Formatting

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Paul Bybee

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Sep 17, 2009, 10:59:42 AM9/17/09
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Okay,

I'll admit it, I'm a newbie with Joomla but I'm having a blast!

We are about to go live with our site http://www.hudsonvillebands.org/hhsbands

Anyhow.

I found the editors in Joomla are not very robust. So, I have been
trying to format my text with MS Frontpage and copy / paste in to
Articles, this does not seem to work very well either.

How do you guys create some better formatting in Articles?

What are some best practices?

Dave Van

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Sep 17, 2009, 5:11:44 PM9/17/09
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RE: Joomla Editors

In response to Paul's questions, I recommend JCE (Joomla Content
Editor) - it is a robust editor that also handles images nicely. JCE
is a free extension that comes in two parts. But in fact, I really
have no quarrel with TinyMCE - the default Joomla Editor. It does the
job it was designed to do.

I never import any content from a Microsoft product like Word or
FrontPage. Microsoft products do not play nice with open source
content management systems like Joomla. If I have text in Word or
FrontPage, I copy it and paste it into notepad to remove all the
Microsoft formatting, and then copy and paste again into the Joomla
editor. Some Joomla editors have a box to click when importing text
from Microsoft Word, but I prefer to take the extra step of making
sure there are no Microsoft footpints when the text goes into Joomla.

Jesper is an expert on formatting Joomla - we should get him to talk
about editing content at the next Joomla User Group meeting.

Have a great day!

Dave Van Antwerp


On Sep 17, 10:59 am, Paul Bybee <paul_by...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Okay,
>
> I'll admit it, I'm a newbie with Joomla but I'm having a blast!
>
> We are about to go live with our sitehttp://www.hudsonvillebands.org/hhsbands

Paul Bybee

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Sep 17, 2009, 9:39:53 PM9/17/09
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I took the suggestion and installed JCE; either I did something wrong
or it's not a very good extension.

Probably the former.

It seems to fail at even simple tasks for me, I started with a blank
slate and created an article with sample text. I centered some of the
text, and I also used the ident tool to indent some text. I saved
the article, it saved without problem.

But when I open the article back up all of the text is left justified,
not centered, not indented.

What am I doing wrong?
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Jesper Dinesen

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Sep 17, 2009, 9:48:21 PM9/17/09
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Paul,

May I suggest you come to my office tomorrow so I can investigate what is going on with your JCE - what you describe is not expected behavior.

Jesper

 Jesper Dinesen
 Founder/CEO
 MMJ Technology LLC

 jes...@mmjtech.com

 616.378.0480

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Paul Bybee

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Sep 21, 2009, 8:54:47 PM9/21/09
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I forgot to follow up, sorry about that. This seems to be working
fine now, I must have had some hidden remnants in the page from my
attempts to move data from MS frontpage.

I'm now taking data sent to me to Notepad first, this seems to be
working well. Although it's a huge waste for someone to go through
the effort of formatting in Word, them for me to do it again in
Joomla.

Oh well. Is that how the rest of you do it?

On Sep 17, 9:48 pm, Jesper Dinesen <jes...@mmjtech.com> wrote:
> Paul,
> May I suggest you come to my office tomorrow so I can investigate what is going on with your JCE - what you describe is not expected behavior.
> Jesper Jesper Dinesen
>  Founder/CEO
>  MMJ Technology LLC
>  jes...@mmjtech.com 616.378.0480
> Paul Bybee wrote:I took the suggestion and installed JCE; either I did something wrong or it's not a very good extension. Probably the former. It seems to fail at even simple tasks for me, I started with a blank slate and created an article with sample text. I centered some of the text, and I also used the ident tool to indent some text. I saved the article, it saved without problem. But when I open the article back up all of the text is left justified, not centered, not indented. What am I doing wrong? On Sep 17, 5:11 pm, Dave Van<D...@CreativePartnersInc.com>wrote:RE: Joomla Editors In response to Paul's questions, I recommend JCE (Joomla Content Editor) - it is a robust editor that also handles images nicely. JCE is a free extension that comes in two parts. But in fact, I really have no quarrel with TinyMCE - the default Joomla Editor. It does the job it was designed to do. I never import any content from a Microsoft product like Word or FrontPage. Microsoft products do not play nice with open source content management systems like Joomla. If I have text in Word or FrontPage, I copy it and paste it into notepad to remove all the Microsoft formatting, and then copy and paste again into the Joomla editor. Some Joomla editors have a box to click when importing text from Microsoft Word, but I prefer to take the extra step of making sure there are no Microsoft footpints when the text goes into Joomla. Jesper is an expert on formatting Joomla - we should get him to talk about editing content at the next Joomla User Group meeting. Have a great day! Dave Van Antwerp On Sep 17, 10:59 am, Paul Bybee<paul_by...@hotmail.com>wrote:Okay,I'll admit it, I'm a newbie with Joomla but I'm having a blast!We are about to go live with our sitehttp://www.hudsonvillebands.org/hhsbandsAnyhow.I found the editors in Joomla are not very robust.  So, I have been trying to format my text with MS Frontpage and copy / paste in to Articles, this does not seem to work very well either.How do you guys create some better formatting in Articles?What are some best practices?- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Daniel Proczko

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Oct 2, 2009, 11:15:40 AM10/2/09
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I let CSS do the formatting! I only use the text editor to make
certain font bold, italic, or a list. I don't change sizes,
indentations, fonts, or anything else that would be easier completed
with CSS.
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