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Elin  
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 More options Aug 21 2012, 6:28 pm
From: Elin <elin.war...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 21 2012 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Some router problem?

UCM will likely be the basis of content management in Joomla CMS 4 in 2014
yes.  And the new routing that is in the platform already will be used
along with MVC.

Elin

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:52:01 PM UTC-4, ddevile wrote:

> Thank Sam & Elin for your answers

> Elin you are right about sef urls that saves the day, but (the router) is
> not very versatile as in wp and drupal where you can do many things on the
> created url. I follow the joomla project for few years and I'm still
> waiting for this change because i really don't like sh404 or any other 3dp
> plugin.
> There was a pull from hannes for a new router before 2.5 was released, is
> that gonna happen in 3.0?
> If not the UCM is due for 4.0 in 2013?

> Thanx again for your time

> Τη Κυριακή, 19 Αυγούστου 2012 5:59:50 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Elin έγραψε:

>> Any time you display a page on your site you should get all of the
>> modules set to show on all pages. If you aren't that's a problem and you
>> should report it to the tracker.

>> One thing to keep in mind i that the content of a page is NOT just the
>> content of the article. Search engines see your whole page--exactly what is
>> shown when you look at page source.  When a search engine looks at a page
>> with different modules  even though the body is the same it may be seeing a
>> very very different page -- precisely what you described i.e. one page with
>> no modules at all and another page with a give set of modules. We all know
>> too that on some pages modules are the dominant feature while on others
>> they have a minimal role in terms of the content of a page. Thus the two
>> pages you describe are different pages in content and will not be treated
>> as duplicate content in terms of penalty (and Google has explained over the
>> years that the penalty is not that severe unless they think you are
>> deliberately trying to trick people--they are smart people over there and
>> they actually do know that pages that are dynamically generated sometimes
>> have different ways of making the same request).

>> What's more important than duplicate content in the scenario you describe
>> is the risk to page rank if you have other sites linking to what from your
>> point of view is the same content but with different urls. For that you
>> need to really have some discipline and make sure you have the menu links
>> you need for the router to always find the sef right url.

>> By the way what were the sef urls for those two pages?

>> Until we go to unified content (unique ids for all items) we are really
>> not going to be able to solve the deep down problems of routing in the
>> application even though the platform is giving us better tools.

>> Elin

>> On Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:25:55 PM UTC-4, ddevile wrote:

>>> I am setting up a site and I just figure out a strange behavior of
>>> joomla 2.5.6.

>>> lets say we have an article id=2

>>> which belongs to a category id=2

>>> the url is

>>> http://localhost/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&catid...

>>> but if you enter
>>> http://localhost/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2

>>> you see the article on an empty (no modules or whatever was set up in
>>> the category) template.

>>> This is a bug (for me at least) since the same content can be presented
>>> in more ways than the specified one. Duplicated content is no good for
>>> search engines as well.

>>> Maybe the routing should need a refurbishment?


 
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