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Ian MacLennan  
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 More options Dec 10 2009, 11:38 am
From: Ian MacLennan <ian.maclen...@joomla.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:38:50 -0500
Local: Thurs, Dec 10 2009 11:38 am
Subject: Mootools discussion
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@Chris and Ole

So, leading up to the past weekend I had a couple of discussions with some
of you about the way forward regarding the mootools issue.  In the past
weeks I have had discussions with a guy from the mootools development team
and have been connecting with them on their development list.

As we have been discussing the mootools issue, the premise of our
discussions has always been based on the assumption that the compatibility
layer is not an option.  This has been based on our and various other's
experience with the current compatibility layer that doesn't cover a large
portion of cases.

In the past couple of weeks there has been discussion on their list directed
towards reworking the compatibility layer and building a version that would
fit a large majority of cases with the goal being to make 1.1 scripts work
on Mootools 1.2 with the compatibility layer.  I have been in contact with
Darren Waddell from the Mootools development team and he is committed to
getting the compatibility layer ready for production.  Aaron Newton
suggested that coverage would be somewhere between 95% and 98%.

So, I brought this up to the members of the PWGL that were in New York and
we had a discussion as to the way forward.

In light of these recent developments, in seemed that the obvious way
forward was to aim for a solution in Joomla 1.5.16 (or later if nec.) based
on Mootools 1.2 with the newly developed compatibility layer.  This gets us
a lot in terms of allowing developers to work with MT1.2 while greatly
reducing the chances of breaking existing sites using MT1.1 scripts.

The plan proposed was to make a final evaluation when a beta version of the
compatibility layer was available.  Then we would aim for a release with the
new Mootools compatibility layer about 2 months following.  In order to get
feedback/wider testing we would select a couple of developers from the
community who are making use of MT1.1 in their scripts to test out changes.
In addition, we plan to developer a plugin that site administrators can
install to test as well.  This plugin when enabled would use MT1.2 for
behaviors and would load the compatibility layer when needed.

To determine when the compat layer is needed, we would introduce a new
method into JHTMLBehavior called framework.  This is the new name for the
method in 1.6.  If only behavior.framework is called, Mootools 1.2 would be
loaded without the compatibility layer.  If something calls
behavior.mootools, then the compatibility layer will also be loaded.

We decided that this was indeed the best approach and the best way forward.
Since you two were not able to be present with us, I wanted to give you the
opportunity to ask questions or to raise any objections that you might have.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
Ian


 
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Ole Ottosen  
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 More options Dec 10 2009, 3:43 pm
From: Ole Ottosen <ole.otto...@joomla.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:43:08 +0100
Local: Thurs, Dec 10 2009 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: [joomla-wg-production] Mootools discussion
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Thanks for sharing Ian. Great news!

Sounds like we with this extra option match more of the preferred options
available from our recent discussion thread on the subject and get a result
that meet most concerns we had. Nice.

A 1.5.16 (or later) supporting 1.2 with compatibility for 1.1, and with a
touch of 1.6 preparing people for the future, and still keeping old scripts
safe in most cases, and all within óne release to support and distribute
officially and internationally - Yes, its great for sure.

Good work guys, and a big thumb up for the Mootools people :)

Ole

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Ian MacLennan <ian.maclen...@joomla.org>wrote:


 
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Chris Davenport  
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 More options Dec 11 2009, 3:36 pm
From: Chris Davenport <chris.davenp...@joomla.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:36:30 +0000
Local: Fri, Dec 11 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [joomla-wg-production] Mootools discussion
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That's really good news Ian.  If the compat layer really does work as
advertised then I think that is the best way forwards.

Chris.

2009/12/10 Ole Ottosen <ole.otto...@joomla.org>


 
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