Well, it's time... 1.6 is coming together... Momentum and buzz is starting to build... That's why I'm calling for a dev wg meeting. PLEASE try to make it. If not, I'll post a summary to the group...
Unfortunately I will be traveling on Thursday so will be unable to attend. Please post a summary if possible and I will give my input (if any) as soon as I get online again (should be Friday).
> Unfortunately I will be traveling on Thursday so will be unable to > attend. Please post a summary if possible and I will give my input (if > any) as soon as I get online again (should be Friday).
> I won't be able to be there, all input will be shared upfront.
> Regards, Wilco
> On 10/14/08, Charl van Niekerk <char...@charlvn.za.net> wrote:
> > Hi Anthony,
> > Unfortunately I will be traveling on Thursday so will be unable to
> > attend. Please post a summary if possible and I will give my input (if
> > any) as soon as I get online again (should be Friday).
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ray (mihu) <rayt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's 6 AM here. I am barely wake up and have to get ready for work. > I guess I can't make it too.
> On Oct 14, 7:10 am, "Wilco Jansen" <jansen.wi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I won't be able to be there, all input will be shared upfront.
> > Regards, Wilco
> > On 10/14/08, Charl van Niekerk <char...@charlvn.za.net> wrote:
> > > Hi Anthony,
> > > Unfortunately I will be traveling on Thursday so will be unable to > > > attend. Please post a summary if possible and I will give my input (if > > > any) as soon as I get online again (should be Friday).
> Well, it's time... 1.6 is coming together... Momentum and buzz is starting > to build... That's why I'm calling for a dev wg meeting. PLEASE try to > make it. If not, I'll post a summary to the group...
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jinx <jjanss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where will this meeting take place ?
> Johan
> On Oct 15, 5:30 pm, "Rob Schley" <rob.sch...@community.joomla.org> > wrote: > > I will do my best. That is earlier than I am normally capable of getting > up > > but we will see. > > Rob
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Ian MacLennan <ianlen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I should be there also.
> > > Ian
> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Toby Patterson < > toby.patter...@gmail.com > > > > wrote:
> > >> Ditto.
> > >> On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:46 AM, Andrew Eddie wrote:
> Skype chat. I didn't realize you wern't in yet. I'll add you in now...
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jinx <jjanss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Where will this meeting take place ?
>> Johan
>> On Oct 15, 5:30 pm, "Rob Schley" <rob.sch...@community.joomla.org> >> wrote: >> > I will do my best. That is earlier than I am normally capable of getting >> up >> > but we will see. >> > Rob
>> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Ian MacLennan <ianlen...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > I should be there also.
>> > > Ian
>> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Toby Patterson < >> toby.patter...@gmail.com >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> Ditto.
>> > >> On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:46 AM, Andrew Eddie wrote:
> Skype chat. I didn't realize you wern't in yet. I'll add you in now...
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jinx <jjanss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Where will this meeting take place ?
>> Johan
>> On Oct 15, 5:30 pm, "Rob Schley" <rob.sch...@community.joomla.org> >> wrote: >> > I will do my best. That is earlier than I am normally capable of getting >> up >> > but we will see. >> > Rob
>> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Ian MacLennan <ianlen...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > I should be there also.
>> > > Ian
>> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Toby Patterson < >> toby.patter...@gmail.com >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> Ditto.
>> > >> On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:46 AM, Andrew Eddie wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Ercan Özkaya <ozkayaer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll also be there. Can you please add me too?
> Ercan
> 2008/10/15 Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com>
> Skype chat. I didn't realize you wern't in yet. I'll add you in now...
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jinx <jjanss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Where will this meeting take place ?
>>> Johan
>>> On Oct 15, 5:30 pm, "Rob Schley" <rob.sch...@community.joomla.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I will do my best. That is earlier than I am normally capable of
>>> getting up
>>> > but we will see.
>>> > Rob
>>> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Ian MacLennan <ianlen...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > I should be there also.
>>> > > Ian
>>> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Toby Patterson <
>>> toby.patter...@gmail.com
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > >> Ditto.
>>> > >> On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:46 AM, Andrew Eddie wrote:
Quick Summary:
1.5: After 1.5.8, We're slowly going to start to slow down the maintance
procedures (move all priority 4 + 5 to 1.6, be selective about what priority
3 get fixed..
1.6:
Refactoring branch being merged to trunk
Cache, Media, Translation and Update branches being merged to trunk
Feature freeze on 1.6.
Rolling 2 week stabalization cycle. Once reasonablly stable, we push 1.6
alpha.
4 week feature cycle, where new features can be added prior to beta
After 4 weeks, stabalization cycle, and 1.6 beta
Then JBS takes over stabalizing for RC and Stable...
Here's the chatlog of the meeting:
[9:02:53 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Ok, so on the agenda are the following
[9:03:24 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: 1.5 Status
1.6 Status/Gameplan
Status on Branches
Some other little things...
[9:04:02 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: with reguards to 1.5, we (coordinators)
had decided last night, that after 1.5.8, we start to curtail maintaince
efforts on it
[9:04:23 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: that doesn't mean abandon, but start
moving the lower priority stuff over to 1.6
[9:04:32 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: any objections?
[9:04:53 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Going once
[9:05:04 AM] Samuel Moffatt says: i object!
[9:05:08 AM] Samuel Moffatt says: no wait, i don't :P
[9:05:13 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: lol
[9:05:17 AM] Ian MacLennan says: err...
[9:05:18 AM] Ian MacLennan says: I think that is fine
[9:05:21 AM] Rob Schley says: what does that realistically mean
[9:05:25 AM] Rob Schley says: ?
[9:05:26 AM] Ian MacLennan says: Ithink that has naturally happened already
[9:05:36 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Well, all priority 4 and 5 get pushed to
1.6 off the bat
[9:05:54 AM] Ian MacLennan says: can we say
[9:05:56 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: priority 3's get looked at a little
deepr, to see if it's really needed in 1.5...
[9:06:04 AM] Ian MacLennan says: that all open or confirmed 4 and 5
[9:06:09 AM] Ian MacLennan says: and leave the pendings?
[9:06:13 AM] Samuel Moffatt says: so instead of handling things in 1.5, we
evaluate if they still apply to 1.6 and then shift them to 1.6
[9:06:15 AM] Ian MacLennan says: for a couple of weeks
[9:06:17 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: well, that's what 1.5.8 is for (Ian)
[9:06:23 AM] Ian MacLennan says: okay
[9:06:34 AM] Rob Schley says: ok
[9:06:36 AM] Rob Schley says: fine with me
[9:06:43 AM] Samuel Moffatt says: anything thats sitting in the line at the
moment, or we can get out of the way pretty easily we can then put into
1.5.8
[9:07:15 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: so 1.5.8 will be the last of the full
maintaince mode releases...
[9:07:29 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: As far as 1.6
[9:07:32 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: when is 1.5.8 due?
[9:07:48 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: @Hannes, we were thinking of like a 2
week timeframe from here
[9:08:21 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: because I think it would be good to make
it possible to release another maintenance release in the next half year
[9:08:39 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Hannes, we're not stopping maintaining
1.5
[9:08:45 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: yes, I know
[9:08:51 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: just cutting back a little to make room
for what needs to get done in 1.6
[9:09:12 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Ok anything else on 1.5?
[9:09:19 AM] Ian MacLennan says: so...
[9:09:27 AM] Ian MacLennan says: will that mean only security fixes really
for 1.5?
[9:09:30 AM] Ian MacLennan says: is that the idea?
[9:09:32 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: nooo...
[9:09:33 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: not yet
[9:09:46 AM] Rob Schley says: priority 1-3 bugs it would seem
[9:09:50 AM] Ian MacLennan says: security fixes and big issues?
[9:09:51 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: I'm just looking at this and I think,
realistically, maintenance would come to a full stop for 1.5 when we say we
are going into a different mode here and focus more on 1.6
[9:09:55 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: all priority 1 & 2 will go into 1.5 for
sure... Priority 3 will go in with disgression
[9:10:00 AM] Ian MacLennan says: I would imagine
[9:10:01 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: ok
[9:10:04 AM] Andrew Eddie says: security, big bugs, and pain relief
[9:10:06 AM] Ian MacLennan says: we won't get too many prio 1 or 2s...
[9:10:07 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: basically don't be afraid to say known
issue for a 3, and put to 1.6
[9:10:12 AM] Ian MacLennan says: right okay
[9:10:14 AM] Ian MacLennan says: fair enough
[9:10:22 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: ok, so 1.5 is done. ;)
[9:10:35 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: not quite, but we're making room for the
next beast
[9:10:42 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: the topic. ;)
[9:10:46 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Oh ok
[9:10:50 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: lol
[9:10:54 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: So, as far as 1.6
[9:11:14 AM] Rob Schley says: dang Anthony, you are quick on the edits :P
[9:11:15 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: the gameplan we've come up with
(completely open for discussion) is as follows:
[9:11:17 AM] Samuel Moffatt thinks anthony is thinking further forward than
we realise
[9:11:22 AM] Samuel Moffatt says: yes, really quick
[9:11:40 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: (I'm fast where it counts, but not where
it hurts)
[9:11:42 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: :P
[9:11:48 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: :)
[9:12:04 AM] Ian MacLennan says: ah I didn't get to read the unedited
version
[9:12:09 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Since there's really nothing of value in
Trunk
[9:12:19 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: we propose to move refactoring branch to
trunk
[9:12:29 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: ok
[9:12:40 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: then, merge in the work done in a few
other branches (Cache, MediaManager, Updates, Translations)
[9:12:58 AM] Rob Schley says: why not move 1.5 release down to trunk?
[9:13:04 AM] Rob Schley says: then merge refactoring into that?
[9:13:09 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: LOTS of work
[9:13:20 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Toby, if I'm not mistaken, has already
merged 1.5 into refactoring
[9:13:43 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: the differences in terms of bugs fixed
between 1.5 and refactoring are minor
[9:13:45 AM] Rob Schley says: ah, well, if that is true... fine with me
[9:13:51 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Cool,
[9:13:56 AM] Ian MacLennan says: when did rob merge it?
[9:14:08 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Ian, you mean Toby?
[9:14:10 AM] Ian MacLennan says: toby
[9:14:12 AM] Ian MacLennan says: yeah
[9:14:19 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: last week if I'm not mistaken
[9:14:20 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: a months ago?
[9:14:23 AM] Ian MacLennan says: ah okay
[9:14:24 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: oh, okay
[9:14:24 AM] Ian MacLennan says: very good
[9:14:30 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: we can still check...
[9:14:33 AM] Ian MacLennan says: I was thinking in terms of page titles
[9:14:36 AM] Ian MacLennan says: and some other
[9:14:44 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Ahhh...
[9:14:44 AM] Ian MacLennan says: consistency efforts that we made
[9:14:48 AM] Ian MacLennan says: not just in terms of losing the effort
[9:14:49 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: that stuff is not in I don't think
[9:14:52 AM] Ian MacLennan says: but in terms of
[9:14:58 AM] Ian MacLennan says: switching behaviour again
[9:15:00 AM] Ian MacLennan says: and people not being happy
[9:15:14 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Well, that's something we need to
address...
[9:15:21 AM] Ian MacLennan says: okay...
[9:15:22 AM] Ian MacLennan says: well...
[9:15:24 AM] Rob Schley says: well, that was sort of my thought
[9:15:25 AM] Ian MacLennan says: we have specs for that
[9:15:29 AM] Ian MacLennan says: so...
[9:15:36 AM] Rob Schley says: if trunk is not up to date, rebranch 1.5
release
[9:15:36 AM] Rob Schley says: :P
[9:15:37 AM] Ian MacLennan says: hopefully we can make sure our specs are
still right
[9:15:39 AM] Andrew Eddie says: I'm probably not as worried about that
aspect, because the extension spec's we talked about will help address that
[9:15:50 AM] Ian MacLennan says: yes Andrew
[9:16:00 AM] Ian MacLennan says: we have page title specs we'll carry
through
[9:16:14 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Well, would it be worth while to merge
1.5 back to refactoring, or should we go the other way around?
[9:16:34 AM] Ian MacLennan says: well...
[9:16:39 AM] Ian MacLennan says: what has been done to refactoring
[9:16:42 AM] Ian MacLennan says: in terms of frontend components?
[9:16:48 AM] Rob Schley says: if refactoring is being merged to trunk it
wouldn't really matter either way
[9:16:48 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: not much
[9:16:55 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: Ok...
[9:16:57 AM] Ian MacLennan says: so...
[9:17:08 AM] Andrew Eddie says: frontend components should be really easy to
merge
[9:17:10 AM] Ian MacLennan says: maybe merge frontend components from 1.5
over...
[9:17:17 AM] Ian MacLennan says: yeah
[9:17:20 AM] Ian MacLennan says: that was my thought
[9:17:24 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: So, why don't we move to trunk, then
people can pick off components one at a time, and merge across...
[9:17:32 AM] Andrew Eddie says: fine with me
[9:17:34 AM] Ian MacLennan says: sounds good to me
[9:17:38 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: rather than trying to do the whole thing
at once
[9:17:40 AM] Rob Schley says: (y)
[9:17:43 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: cool...
[9:17:43 AM] Ian MacLennan says: fair enough
[9:17:44 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: all in favour? all oppose? ;)
[9:17:50 AM] Ian MacLennan says: +1
[9:18:00 AM] Ian MacLennan says: motion carried
[9:18:13 AM] Hannes Papenberg calls "NEXT"
[9:18:16 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: ;)
[9:18:18 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: So, as it stands, we're going to
1. Move refactoring to trunk
2. Merge other 4 branches to trunk
3. Merge 1.5 -> trunk
[9:18:22 AM] Anthony Ferrara says: correct?
[9:18:30 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: switch 2. and 3.
[9:18:36 AM] Hannes Papenberg says: otherwise: Cool
[9:18:38 AM] Rob Schley says: btw, in case there was confusion, javascript
branch is not trunk
...
