Q&A for community and developers

[Nils Rückmann]

Hi,

i know we have a couple of portals or other info sites like wiki, irc, mailing-list, forum, ux-forum, idea-pool and so on.
But especially the forum seems to be overwhelmed and (if i can say) "outdated". I really don't want to know how many duplicated entries are on that forum.

So why not using a modern Q&A tool ? There were a few attempts to create a Joomla-StackExchange site, but it never comes to an usable state.

So what do you think ? Could a Q&A tool be the right thing for joomla and his huge community ? And if it is, should we go the "short" way using StackExchange, or are
there other imaginable solutions ?

In my opinion, a Q&A is the best way to support the community and AskUbuntu shows that StackExchange can be awesome.

[elin]

I've been spending a lot of time on StackOverflow looking at how they use tags (almost 40,000 tags) and it does really seem great and flexibly the way it works. To me it seems like it would be a great kind of thing to have for Joomla.

Elin

[Donald Gilbert]

Let's dogfood the new Framework and make one. :)

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[Nils Rückmann]

Just in case we want to use StackExchange:

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34294/joomla/52209

[brian teeman]

One thing that really frustrates me about the current forum is the number of really bad answers given by people with lots of posts (perceived expertise). It would be great to have any system that allowed people to rank/validate an answer

[Matt Thomas]

I personally find that StackExchange has a nice model of effectively providing help with the ability for peer review of answers.

Best,

Matt Thomas

Founder betweenbrain™

Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework

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[David Hurley]

Elin,

Are you saying in place of the forums? Something for the community to use?

Or rather as a feature for a future Joomla release?

Thanks,
David Hurley

[Nils Rückmann]

Push!

We need more volunteers. Just ask a quetsion, or rate questions!!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34294/joomla

[Swapnil Shah]

That awesome +1! 

Regards, 

Neil

Sent from my iPhone

[Valentin Despa]

NO NO NO, do it organised! Vote for questions who have under 10 votes. 

At this point we need 2 more questions with a score of 10 or more to get to the next stage!

Stackexhange is great, we need such a comunnity for Joomla! 

When I have a problem I hate reading tons offorum posts without knowing which answer is good or if there even is an answer to my problem.

@Elin I saw and upvoted you a lot on Stackoverflow, thanks for your contribution there.

Kind regards,

Valentin Despa

[El KuKu]

+1 for a Q&A solution.

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[Nils Rückmann]

Thanks Valentin, i thought everbody should be clever enough to vote the last 2 questions which only needs a few votes ;)

[Allon Moritz]

+1 for a q&a solution @ joomla.org. why driving traffic away from joomla.org? I think it would make more sense to replace the joomla forum with a decent q&a extension if the forum doesn't fit the requirements nowadays....just a thought.

On 19 Mar 2013 21:17, "Nils Rückmann" <syb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Valentin, i thought everbody should be clever enough to vote the last 2 questions which only needs a few votes ;)

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[Nils Rückmann]

I would love to see all joomla stuff (code.joomla.org, ask.joomla.org, docs.joomla.org, etc.) in one place to get one portal. Even a Joomla-ID or other crossover authentifications would be great. But we have to be realistic. It takes years to get all the things happend, so we not using the probably best Q&A solution in the meanwhile. Drupal, Wordpress, Ubuntu, and a lot of other applications show taht StackExchange works.

[Valentin Despa]

The proposal reached now the next step!

200 committers are needed  for this for beta to begin.

Commit to Joomla!

Kind regards,

Valentin Despa

[Niels Braczek]

Am 19.03.2013 23:41, schrieb Valentin Despa:

> *Commit to Joomla!*<http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34294/joomla?commit=1>

Done.

Regards,
Niels

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[Dmitry Rekun]

Done :)

Dmitry

[Dmitry Rekun]

As far as I understand we need not only 200 commiters, but also "100 committers with 200+ rep on any other site". That's mean I should be active on any of this http://stackexchange.com/sites ?

[Nils Rückmann]

Hi Dmitry, as far as i know we need a total of 200 commitments, but 100 commitments should have a 200+ rep.

[Dmitry Rekun]

Ok, thanks for the info. This still does mean that we should try to be those 200+ rep committers to make it happen.

Dmitry

[Nils Rückmann]

We are on a good way. 30% in one day isn't that bad.

[Valentin Despa]

"The commitment score is the minimum of three scores:

200 committers in total

100 committers with 200+ rep on any other site

commitment score, based on committers' activity on all other sites and how old the commitment is"

So we need to score good in each category.

Valentin Despa

[chivitli]

I just made a commitment, but even though I have 2.5k reputation of stackoverflow, it the list I am shown with 151 reputation (default I got after logging to area51). Any idea why they didn't count me in the 200+ users, since I saw they should add rep accros stacks?

[Valentin Despa]

It really depends how you login. If you have a stackoverflow account or if you login with a 3rd party website.

I suggest trying to relogin with the account that has 2,5k.

Good luck,

Valentin Despa

[chivitli]

It's ok now, it just took about 12 hours for it to add the rep

[Nils Rückmann]

Nowhere, we must reach the beta phase first ;)

[Nils Rückmann]

Just holding this topic up ;) We still need more people to commit: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34294/joomla

[pe7er]

Hi, 

I like StackOverflow.com (I use it to find Debian Linux related solutions ;-)), 

but I see a couple of issues with using external sites / solution-voting-systems systems: 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla-dev-cms/d2awo5jFL20/apHdYyVHAzgJ

> "But especially the forum seems to be overwhelmed and (if i can say) "outdated". I really don't want to know how many duplicated entries are on that forum."

I see duplicate questions at http://stackoverflow.com/ too! ;-)  I don't think that any system can prevent duplicate posting....

Some people just don't seem to search before posting, other people don't know what to search for (and end up posting similar topics)

I suppose that in the future topics at StackExchanges might get "outdated" too (imagine Joomla 1.5 / 2.5 questions when J3.5 is stable)

Greetings,

Peter

[Amy Stephen]

Folks - this is almost getting to be one of those questions you wish someone hadn't asked.

I think it's great when any group of Joomla people get together and try to make something happen that's good for other Joomla people, regardless of where it happens. IMO, it's fine if it's in a boat, with a goat, or in a car driving to a bar, it's all good.

The thought that any good idea should be crowned officially before proving itself is absurd. Prove your idea, first. "Code in hand." But beyond that, I really hate the "have tool, need problem" approach to doing anything. What problem we are trying to solve?

These are facts:

• The Joomla project derives some income from ads for traffic on it's site. If you don't believe that's important, dig deep: http://opensourcematters.org/support-joomla.html
• The Joomla project is best able to maintain some quality of support and information on property.
• The Joomla project will never be able to direct all Joomla questions to it's forums.

It would be much more productive to define who the Joomla forums are intended to support (sorry, "everyone" isn't very useful), who the external resources are intended to support, and how the community can "split up" as it were and put bodies in places where those users are supported.

There was a comment made that the project shouldn't be dependent on external resources. (A comment made in a Google list. Chuckle goes here.) I used to agree with that, but I believe that open source is maturing to the point that vertical services, like CLI testing and, yes, user support, is an option worth considering in the overall portfolio of resources a project should adopt in support of operations.

Personally, I think the developer lists are fine, except there are too many non-developers participating and not enough developers. Developers are not likely going to participate in a group that is not focused on developer topics, so, there is absolutely is good value in clarifying what resources are available for what user profiles and then doing what we can to focus activity towards that goal.

Since there are a number of people interested in the topic of improving overall support, might I recommend a working group team form that is guided by the CLT?

The topic is important but I believe it needs to be more focused and less intent on proving if "this tool" is better than "that tool." It should be about who the project intends to support and how those people will be assisted. It's a strategic question, not a question about tools.

My 2 cents.

[Amy Stephen]

Surveys would be nice.

Also, might I ask that people please stop cross posting?

[Nils Rückmann]

The actual discussion is on the dev list, so you're kind of corssposting Amy ;)
But yes, we want to avoid crossposting.

[Nils Rückmann]

Sorry, i've meant cms dev list.

[Amy Stephen]

Nils - I responded to a post. Give me a break.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Nils Rückmann <syb...@gmail.com> wrote:

The actual discussion is on the dev list, so you're kind of corssposting Amy ;)
But yes, we want to avoid crossposting.

[Nils Rückmann]

No problem, I just wanted to say that the discussion is moved to the cms list on any reason. :)

[Dmitry Rekun]

So, we are close :) We need less than 40 commitments. But more importantly, we need more 200+ rep committers. Those who are already made a commitment, but do not have 200+ reputation on any other Stack Exchange site - please read how to get 200+ rep:
http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/7644/how-to-get-the-last-few-people-with-200-rep-needed

Thank you for your efforts to enlarge Joomla! Community.

Dmitry

[Dmitry Rekun]

We are getting closer and closer. Do not forget to stay active to get 200+ rep!

[Dmitry Rekun]

 184/200. 59/100. We need more 200+ rep ppl :) Cmon guys, we can do it!

[Valentin Despa]

Check the list of users  with rep. <200, see who has an account at Stackoverflow & Co. and start up-voting good answers (or questions).

Best,

Valentin Despa

[Dmitry Rekun]

Good point :)

[Bakual]

We've got the 200 commiters now - cheers :-)

Now we need 29 more people with 200+ rep.

[Dmitry Rekun]

Let's start voting for Q/A of <200 rep commiters :)

Dmitry

понедельник, 27 мая 2013 г., 17:17:53 UTC+3 пользователь Bakual написал:

[Nick Savov]

Congrats guys! You're almost there! :)

Cheers,
Nick

> We've got the 200 commiters now - cheers :-)
> Now we need 29 more people with 200+ rep.
>

> Am Donnerstag, 7. M�rz 2013 00:24:28 UTC+1 schrieb Nils R�ckmann:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i know we have a couple of portals or other info sites like wiki, irc,
>> mailing-list, forum, ux-forum, idea-pool and so on.
>> But especially the forum seems to be overwhelmed and (if i can say)
>> "outdated". I really don't want to know how many duplicated entries are
>> on
>> that forum.
>>
>> So why not using a modern Q&A tool ? There were a few attempts to create
>> a
>> Joomla-StackExchange site, but it never comes to an usable state.
>>
>> So what do you think ? Could a Q&A tool be the right thing for joomla
>> and
>> his huge community ? And if it is, should we go the "short" way using
>> StackExchange, or are
>> there other imaginable solutions ?
>>
>> In my opinion, a Q&A is the best way to support the community and
>> AskUbuntu shows that StackExchange can be awesome.
>>
>>
>

[Valentin Despa]

RT "Let's start voting for Q/A of <200 rep commiters :)"

Unfortunately most of them don't have any other accounts at Stackexchange network. 

But let's find them and vote the good answers / questions!

Valentin Despa

[Eater]

I'd love to see a Stackexchange network for Joomla! Unfortunately the proposal took too long to get started (over 2 years). As a result it has been reset and the proposal moved to http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/joomla
If you supported the first proposal please show your resupport by visiting the above link, writing sample questions and voting on example questions. Let's get it up and running quickly!

[Valentin Despa]

Thanks for posting this. Unforunatelly there is no direct way of contacting the old supporters.

Kind regards,

Valentin Despa

[Allon Moritz]

Added one http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/joomla/61867#61867 and could not vote anymore up others as my credits are already used....hope we can do it this time.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Dmitry Rekun <bzz...@gmail.com> wrote:

We need 15 more questions with a score of 10 or more to move to the next phase SE Q&A site proposal: Joomla http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/

Dmitry
воскресенье, 8 сентября 2013 г., 13:51:46 UTC+3 пользователь Valentin Despa написал:

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[Dmitry Rekun]

Yeah my votes also there so I can not vote anymore. Let's hope that others can and will do that.

Dmitry

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[Donald Gilbert]

If you've already used up all your votes, you should still go back and double check. Sometimes questions get over 10 votes. If one of the questions you voted for has over 10 votes, you can click the upvote icon again, and get that vote back, and apply it to another one that doesn't yet have 10. I did this myself yesterday to take a 12 vote question down to 11 votes, and then push a 9 vote up to a 10. 

[Ole Ottosen (ot2sen)]

Was able to "free" a 12 vote too, and could add it to a 9.

 

So there is now 14 with 10 votes to go :)

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Donald Gilbert <dilber...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you've already used up all your votes, you should still go back and double check. Sometimes questions get over 10 votes. If one of the questions you voted for has over 10 votes, you can click the upvote icon again, and get that vote back, and apply it to another one that doesn't yet have 10. I did this myself yesterday to take a 12 vote question down to 11 votes, and then push a 9 vote up to a 10. 

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[Bakual]

12 now ;)

Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 18:00:45 UTC+1 schrieb Ole Ottosen:

Was able to "free" a 12 vote too, and could add it to a 9.

 

So there is now 14 with 10 votes to go :)

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Donald Gilbert <dilber...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you've already used up all your votes, you should still go back and double check. Sometimes questions get over 10 votes. If one of the questions you voted for has over 10 votes, you can click the upvote icon again, and get that vote back, and apply it to another one that doesn't yet have 10. I did this myself yesterday to take a 12 vote question down to 11 votes, and then push a 9 vote up to a 10. 

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[Dmitry Rekun]

11 now :P And there are 3 questions that have more then 10 votes!

Dmitry

[Sergio Manzi]

OK, I did what I could...

What can happen if one suffer of "double personality"? :-)

smz

On 2013-11-10 12:45, Dmitry Rekun wrote:

[Sergio Manzi]

BTW, dmitry,

Are you ware that your post (quoted here below) and all answers to it are flagged as "Possible scam" by Thunderbird because the text "http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/" actually contains a link to the "http://t.co/faS5wR6aGX" shortened the URL  (which indeed brings there...) and this is not well accepted by TB?

Cheers!

smz

[Dmitry Rekun]

Oh, sry! Deleted this post - it ws from Twitter ;)

Dmitry

[Webity]

Just adjusted one of my votes to get this down to 10 questions left. Would love to see this actually come through!

David

[Dmitry Rekun]

So we are in the commitment stage currently :) Well done! 

Now we need:

200 committers in totat, but more importantly we need 100 committers with a 200+ rep . Those who are already made a commitment, but do not have 200+ reputation on any other Stack Exchange site - please read how to get 200+ rep:

http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/7644/how-to-get-the-last-few-people-with-200-rep-needed

For those who are new to this - here is the landing page:

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/joomla

Dmitry
среда, 20 ноября 2013 г., 12:03:57 UTC+2 пользователь Webity написал:

[Dmitry Rekun]

Current status:

38%

76/200 committers in total

39%

39/100 committers with 200+ rep on any other site

Please commit! Thanks ;)

Dmitry

[Nils Rückmann]

FYI: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/joomla-dev-cms/d2awo5jFL20/discussion

[Dmitry Rekun]

Sad, but the last commit was on December 16th :( Make it active plz :)

среда, 18 декабря 2013 г., 12:23:21 UTC+2 пользователь Nils Rückmann написал:

FYI: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/joomla-dev-cms/d2awo5jFL20/discussion

[Dmitry Rekun]

Oops, sry, my fault! The list was sorted by reputation :) Everything is looking good so far ;)

[Dmitry Rekun]

We've got 200 commitments! 

Now we need 24 commiters with 200+ rep. Those who are already made a commitment, but do not have 200+ reputation on any other Stack Exchange site - please read how to get 200+ rep:

http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/7644/how-to-get-the-last-few-people-with-200-rep-needed

Thank you!

Dmitry

понедельник, 6 января 2014 г., 12:14:07 UTC+2 пользователь Dmitry Rekun написал:

[Niv Froehlich]

Committed and shared on our Joomla! User Group Toronto Facebook page.

Would love to see this happen.  Now to work on the 200+ rep.

Thanks for the links and taking the initiative!

Niv

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[Dmitry Rekun]

We are getting closer :) 81/100 committers with 200+ rep
Good job guys! Only 19 left and we are on the Beta stage.

Dmitry

On Monday, March 31, 2014 2:42:56 AM UTC+3, Niv Froehlich wrote:

Committed and shared on our Joomla! User Group Toronto Facebook page.

Would love to see this happen.  Now to work on the 200+ rep.

Thanks for the links and taking the initiative!

Niv

On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Dmitry Rekun <bzz...@gmail.com> wrote:

We've got 200 commitments! 

Now we need 24 commiters with 200+ rep. Those who are already made a commitment, but do not have 200+ reputation on any other Stack Exchange site - please read how to get 200+ rep:

http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/7644/how-to-get-the-last-few-people-with-200-rep-needed

Thank you!

Dmitry

понедельник, 6 января 2014 г., 12:14:07 UTC+2 пользователь Dmitry Rekun написал:

Oops, sry, my fault! The list was sorted by reputation :) Everything is looking good so far ;)

On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:11:13 PM UTC+2, Dmitry Rekun wrote:

Sad, but the last commit was on December 16th :( Make it active plz :)

среда, 18 декабря 2013 г., 12:23:21 UTC+2 пользователь Nils Rückmann написал:

FYI: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/joomla-dev-cms/d2awo5jFL20/discussion

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[Niv Froehlich]

If you are getting close to 200+ rep, please email me links to your questions/answers - I'd like to see them and perhaps vote them up.  (nivs...@gmail.com)

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[David Fritsch]

Hi Niv

If you get any responses to that please forward to me and I will do the same.

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[Niv Froehlich]

whoa! what's up? - http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34294/joomla/52209

am i using the wrong link?  did i miss something?

This proposal has been deleted.
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[Michael Babker]

Ya, that's the old one.  http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/joomla is the current one.

[Niv Froehlich]

whew! thanks - that was 'mini heart attack' for the day :P

[Niv Froehlich]

My Proposal for getting the last 19 over 200 reputation:

STEP 1: Let's focus on 'one' site:

From http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/7644/how-to-get-the-last-few-people-with-200-rep-needed

Try to get the 200+ Rep on one of those sites for yourself. It's not too hard. Go to a site that interests you. Answer a few questions, or ask a few. Each upvote to your answer is 10 points, to a question is 5 points. An accepted answer is 15 points. It doesn't take long. The experience will help you once we get to Beta.

Since many Joomla-ist are Freelancers, I'm proposing http://freelancing.stackexchange.com/

STEP 2: 

Answer some questions on http://freelancing.stackexchange.com/

STEP 3:

Let's get a running list of usernames (StackExchange on the Freelancing site) that are Joomla! committers and need to reach the 200 reputation milestones

Mine is NivF007 and I have a couple of answers there you can vote up.

STEP 4:

Peruse http://freelancing.stackexchange.com/ and vote up the answers for the appropriate usernames.

STEP 5:

Don't forget to link your accounts

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Okay, I hope I have a correct understanding of how all this works (If not - somebody please clarify) - if so, let's get it done :)!!!

N

[Dmitry Rekun]

Awesome Niv! Thanks for this!

Current status is 86/100 committers with 200+ rep on any other site. Let's make it till JAB14!

Dmitry

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[Dmitry Rekun]

So I am making your life much easier now :)

I've spent some time on the list to select users who has connected accounts and some reputation on other SE sites. All you need is to vote for their answers/questions and help them to reach 200+ rep. Here is the list:

http://stackoverflow.com/users/457071/adam-rifat
http://stackoverflow.com/users/218312/beaverusiv
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2118595/ororuk
http://stackoverflow.com/users/979634/andrew-eddie
http://stackoverflow.com/users/720709/ashwin-date
http://superuser.com/users/217281/mrsonord
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2613166/narrim
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2586069/patrick-jackson
http://stackexchange.com/users/258425/rich-k?tab=accounts
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3077889/csbenjamin
http://stackoverflow.com/users/789611/hung-tran
http://stackoverflow.com/users/974395/j-d
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2050302/mihir-chhatre
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1771803/mehul-gohil
http://stackoverflow.com/users/471574/daniel-dimitrov
http://stackoverflow.com/users/421754/shishir
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3333532/harald-leithner
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1998792/peter-wiseman
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2339451/professional
http://stackexchange.com/users/4008506/gunar-bastos?tab=accounts
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2520390/demongyro
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3032574/yvbakker
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1143337/manoj-l
http://askubuntu.com/users/137696/vitaly-zdanevich
http://android.stackexchange.com/users/58279/2rgman
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1492876/khagan
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3094171/bobby
http://stackexchange.com/users/3805581/kyr?tab=accounts

Hope this helps to reach BETA stage faster!

Beta. Perhaps the most important phase. This is the actual, live site set up on a "probationary" basis to see if people use it. It is very important to participate early. The earliest questions set the tone and topic of the site for a long time. This is also the time to spread the word via Twitter, blogs, and email far and wide. If the site does not get used, it will be deleted. Each site has two parts, each with its own URL:

• topic-name.stackexchange.com: This is where you ask questions, answer questions, tag questions, edit questions, and vote. The beta site starts off with a temporary "sketchy" design; its final design is chosen when the beta period ends.
• meta.topic-name.stackexchange.com: We don't want to talk about the site on the site itself, so each site has a meta discussion area to talk about things like what questions are appropriate, what tags to use, etc. The meta site is also accessible through the 'meta' link at the top of each page on the main site. This is where you can help make decisions about the site itself.

I know we can do it :)
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/58842/joomla

Dmitry

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[Ole Ottosen (ot2sen)]

Thanks Dimitry, a helpful list in getting the last steps to beta.

Used my daily amount of votes to bring more people above the +200 reputation requirement. :)

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[Valentin Despa]

Thanks for the list Dmitry! Good job. People on top already have 200+, you is interested can start from the bottom and advance to the upper part.

Valentin Despa

[David Fritsch]

Great work! Also make sure that everyone commits if you haven't, because the site starts in a PRIVATE beta, so you have to commit!

David

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Thanks for the list Dmitry! Good job. People on top already have 200+, you is interested can start from the bottom and advance to the upper part.

Valentin Despa

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[Niv Froehlich]

+1 to all of the above - great to see the effort coming together!!!!

@David
Is there a specific link that mentions that the beta will be PRIVATE and for how long?  This is new information for me, but a great incentive to get people to commit.

Also, the 'bounty' (http://freelancing.stackexchange.com/help/bounty) is great incentive to begin actively building your rep. as soon as possible.  That way, if you need a solid answer to your specific question, you can use your rep points as a bounty - so this is going to be great site to get top quality answers to your specific  Joomla! questions, and to get them fast.

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[David Fritsch]

I think that I picked that up from seeing other proposals launch. Take this site that just launched: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/36296/earth-science

David

[Niv Froehlich]

Thanks David - here's what that link says (Earth Science SE Beta)

This site is in

Private Beta

Everyone who committed to the proposal can participate.

The site's Public Beta will begin soon.

Also from http://meta.cs.stackexchange.com/questions/94/how-long-is-the-beta-period

Private betas are evaluated after 7 days. Most become public betas at that point. Sometimes, a private beta that hasn't had enough traffic or that's perceived as low quality might be told to shape up and given an extra period of time to improve. 

So it's important that we continue to build critical mass.

I would say that the keys to success are

- keep inviting people to commit who would be interested
- find other SE sites that interest you and ask/answer questions
- start a list of your Joomla! questions to keep on reserve so we can show good activity and quality when hit the Private Beta period

I'm spending 10 to 15 per day on this - it's actually a lot of fun and my appreciation for the Stack Exchange system and what it can do for Joomlaists is growing everyday.

Thanks so much to everybody who is involved.

N

[Dmitry Rekun]

Thanks Niv for info!

So yesterday's work did it. We have 95/100 committers with 200+, so that's only 5 left! Get ready for PRIVATE BETA! :)

My proposal is to create a new thread when we will be on the BETA stage. Then everyone should do the best to make it to the PUBLIC BETA. We should stay active!

BTW here is the updated list of users needed 200+ rep:

http://stackoverflow.com/users/789611/hung-tran
http://stackoverflow.com/users/974395/j-d
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3077889/csbenjamin
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2050302/mihir-chhatre
http://stackoverflow.com/users/471574/daniel-dimitrov
http://stackexchange.comusers/258425/rich-k?tab=accounts
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1771803/mehul-gohil

http://stackoverflow.com/users/421754/shishir
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3333532/harald-leithner
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1998792/peter-wiseman
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2339451/professional
http://stackexchange.com/users/4008506/gunar-bastos?tab=accounts
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2520390/demongyro
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3032574/yvbakker
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1143337/manoj-l
http://askubuntu.com/users/137696/vitaly-zdanevich
http://android.stackexchange.com/users/58279/2rgman
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1492876/khagan
http://stackoverflow.com/users/3094171/bobby
http://stackexchange.com/users/3805581/kyr?tab=accounts

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[Niv Froehlich]

+1 - I'm in and will keep my eyes open for it.  96% :-).

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[Ole Ottosen (ot2sen)]

Nice work all :)

"This proposal has reached 100% commitment. We are preparing for its launch and expect to create it soon."

and

"

This proposal is in:

Commitment

A successful site needs people to commit to use it. This proposal is

100%

complete. Committed users will be invited to the private beta soon."

So it will be private beta trial soon.

I would suggest that Dmitry open a new thread when invites are sent out, to ensure we get the activity required during the 7 days private beta.

[Niv Froehlich]

+1 Ready and waiting :-)   Let's see how good we can make this.

[Dmitry Rekun]

We did it :)

Where is better to open a thread? In the CMS list or in the General Development list? Or in both? :)

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[Niv Froehlich]

Can I suggest a forum post and an announcement on the lists pointing to that post?

I would suggest a title, 'Joomla! Stack Exchange:  Moving from Private Beta to Public Beta'

One advantage is that the owner of the post has control of the first post on that topic, and can edit it later as often as needed.  This would be a good place for instructions, suggestions and guidance - saving us from having to read through long threads.

As far is discussions, those could happen by adding posts - when a new idea or piece of information becomes essential to the effort, you can then edit the top post - I think this will help to keep things more clear and organized.

N

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[Dmitry Rekun]

Of course Niv, feel free.

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4:35am in Ft. Lauderdale - need sleep - can you take this one and I will jump in and help in the aft?

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I thought you will do it :)

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lol - okay - in a couple of hours - stay tuned

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