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Matthew  
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 More options Mar 9 2011, 9:52 am
From: Matthew <matthewg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:52:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2011 9:52 am
Subject: Menu / Module Load
I'm not quite sure this is a development question or an
'administrative' question, but I think it focuses on the broad scheme
of setting up large scale, enterprise level Joomla sites, so I'll post
it here.

I have a site, around 10,000 articles/pages.  The site has around 200
categories, and each category has a menu and menu module.  There are
around These categories/menus/modules represent departments.  There
around 6000 menu items in total.  This is all managed in a single
installation.

In J!1.5, administering this wasn't a big deal with extremely heavy
traffic.  The module loaded and saved quickly.  Adding menu items was
really quick.  Well, after a migration to J!1.6, it either takes
around 2 minutes OR the browser completely crashes when trying to edit
a menu module.  IF the page does load and I get to make changes,
saving around 2 minutes OR the browser crashes.

This is a test server with no traffic right now, and I think they have
8 cores and 16gb of ram dedicated to it.  It also uses a SCSI SAS. The
server is a powerhorse, so I don't think it's a server issue.

Thoughts?


 
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 More options Mar 9 2011, 3:24 pm
From: elin <elin.war...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:24:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Mar 9 2011 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load

This is when actually editing the module, not the menu items?  I wonder if
it is that menu assignment area since you have so many menu items that must
be crazy. And are you saying 6000 total on 200 menus so that is about 30 per
menu?

Elin


 
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Matthew  
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 More options Mar 10 2011, 11:35 am
From: Matthew <matthewg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:35:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 10 2011 11:35 am
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load
Yes, when editing the module.  Yes, about 30 per menu.

I run a the entire university web site with one instance of Joomla
1.5.  It works REALLY REALLY well.  But, 1.6 is painfully SLOW and
really not working too well right now, especially when trying to
administer.

Here's a screen capture (once it loads) of the menu assignment area:
http://www.bornin83.com/share/menus.jpg

Any thoughts or recommendations are appreciated.  Is J1.6 just not
meant for a site of this size?

On Mar 9, 2:24 pm, elin <elin.war...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Mark Dexter  
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 More options Mar 10 2011, 2:57 pm
From: Mark Dexter <dextercow...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:57:31 -0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 10 2011 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load

In theory, version 1.6 should be faster than version 1.5. Having said that,
it is likely that there are bugs or performance bottlenecks that we haven't
found and fixed yet. So your help in working through this is greatly
appreciated.

One thing you could try is to turn on System Debug and then look at the
profile information below the page. That may give you an idea of which query
or queries is causing the problem. That could provide a useful clue.

Thanks. Mark


 
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 More options Mar 11 2011, 9:46 am
From: Matthew <matthewg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:46:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Mar 11 2011 9:46 am
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load
Here's something else on the frontend....

This is loading 1 article with "hello world" as the content, with 1
menu/module published with 1 link (to itself).

Profile Information
Application 0.000 seconds (+0.000); 0.89 MB (+0.89) - afterLoad
Application 0.047 seconds (+0.046); 4.51 MB (+3.62) - afterInitialise
Application 0.815 seconds (+0.769); 46.82 MB (+42.31) - afterRoute
-> Application 62.561 seconds (+61.746); 50.59 MB (+3.77) -
afterDispatch
-> Application 62.570 seconds (+0.008); 50.88 MB (+0.29) - afterRender

Memory Usage
50.88 MB (53,347,920 Bytes)
21 Queries Logged
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parent.id = c.parent_id LEFT JOIN j16_content_rating AS v ON a.id =
v.content_id LEFT OUTER JOIN (SELECT cat.id as id FROM j16_categories
AS cat JOIN j16_categories AS parent ON cat.lft BETWEEN parent.lft AND
parent.rgt
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c.id, c.alias) ELSE c.id END as slug FROM j16_categories as c LEFT
JOIN j16_categories AS s ON (s.lft <= c.lft AND s.rgt >= c.rgt) OR
(s.lft > c.lft AND s.rgt < c.rgt) LEFT JOIN (SELECT cat.id as id FROM
j16_categories AS cat JOIN j16_categories AS parent ON cat.lft BETWEEN
parent.lft AND parent.rgt
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a.id, a.alias) ELSE a.id END as slug, CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias)
THEN CONCAT_WS(":", cc.id, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug FROM
j16_content AS a LEFT JOIN j16_categories AS cc ON cc.id = a.catid
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mm.menuid FROM j16_modules AS m LEFT JOIN j16_modules_menu AS mm ON
mm.moduleid = m.id
1 × SELECT a.rules FROM j16_assets AS a
1 × SELECT * FROM j16_languages
1 × SELECT id, rules FROM ...

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Mark Dexter  
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 More options Mar 11 2011, 5:47 pm
From: Mark Dexter <dextercow...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:47:38 -0800
Local: Fri, Mar 11 2011 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load

You have something interesting going on, maybe in your template, or your
server? Not sure. Here is my debug from a localhost install with sample
database, loading the home page:

Profile Information

Application 0.001 seconds (+0.001); 0.58 MB (+0.58) - afterLoad
Application 0.052 seconds (+0.050); 4.17 MB (+3.59) - afterInitialise
Application 0.096 seconds (+0.044); 5.54 MB (+1.37) - afterRoute
Application 0.311 seconds (+0.215); 9.33 MB (+3.79) - afterDispatch
Application 0.439 seconds (+0.128); 9.94 MB (+0.61) - afterRender

Memory Usage

9.94 MB (10,424,120 Bytes)

19 Queries Logged

Maybe you could try a vanilla site with sample data and compare it to your
test? Both your time (62+ seconds) and memory (50mb) seem a lot higher that
expected.

Good luck. Mark

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Ian MacLennan  
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 More options Mar 11 2011, 11:17 pm
From: Ian MacLennan <ian.maclen...@joomla.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:17:33 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 11 2011 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load

He has 6000 menu items.

Is there any chance of getting the data so we can test and profile locally?
 Otherwise, I can probably generate a data set, but it will take a little
longer.

Ian

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 More options Mar 15 2011, 1:02 pm
From: Matthew <matthewg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 15 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: Menu / Module Load
Hey Guys,
I've used the basic template that came with 1.6.  But, it doesn't
really address the admin area lag.

Ian, I'm sending you an e-mail about the data.

Thanks!
-mg

On Mar 11, 11:17 pm, Ian MacLennan <ian.maclen...@joomla.org> wrote:

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