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Rob Schley  
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From: Rob Schley <rob.sch...@joomla.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:00:52 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 1:00 am
Subject: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

There’s been a lot of activity over the last few week on Joomla 1.6 and I’m
pleased to say that we’ve made a lot of progress in that time but there is
still much to be done. We’ve made significant progress on the ACL system,
nested categories, and countless other improvements.

The new ACL system is well on its way. You can now create new user groups,
assign users to groups, assign groups to access levels, and assign content
viewing permissions to access levels. We are still working out the details
of the user interface and business logic for the advanced access
permissions. The upgrade to MooTools 1.2 is complete and we’ve begun
cleaning up core JavaScript code to make it more compact and efficient. The
menu system and menu manager have been completely rewritten and now feature
a number of major improvements that should make them more powerful,
efficient, and easier to customize.

We’ve refactored a number of other components including com_content,
com_users, and com_weblinks to make them easier to maintain, customize, and
extend. We’ve trimmed a lot of legacy code and media from the core which
reduced the package size by about 30% or so. We’ve also made a number of
performance improvements to the plugin system and the menu system that
should create a visible improvement on larger websites.

So, in light of all of that, we’ve put together an alpha build to give
people an opportunity to see what we’ve been working on and have a peek at
what’s coming in 1.6. It is important to understand that this is a
technology preview, not a final product. There are many issues, rough
corners, dripping faucets, and outright broken pipes. We know this and you
should too. Many features are still broken or extremely buggy so don’t panic
if something doesn’t work as you might expect it to. As I said before, there
is still much to be done.

You can download a copy of the alpha at
http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla/frs/?action=FrsReleaseBrowse&...

Lastly, I’d like to thank Hannes, Gergo, Ercan, Louis, Andrew, and Sam for
all of their hard work.

Enjoy,
Rob Schley


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g s  
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From: g s <gabriele.sabad...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:34 +0200
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
wonderful, many thanks to everybody!! :)

i will try it next week, expecially the ACL system: i have some real
world scenario (a newspaper based on customized wordpress) that can
fit into j1.5 acl, so i'll concentrate on this kind of testing

Gabriele Sabadini

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da8iwr  
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From: da8iwr <virtuemartfrooglef...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 8:31 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
This is excellent news, thanks for the heads up.

Just 2 main questions though

1 - Do you know if the existing 1.5.X extensions will work on 1.6.X,
or will they need modifying the work as they did with the 1.0 - 1.5
transition?

2 - Will the 1.5 > 1.6 upgrade be seamless or will it need work as it
does now with 1.0 > 1.5?

Ill get downloading and playing with it, to see what i can find.

Thanks again :)
Ian


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Scoop  
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From: Scoop <imscoo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:39:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 8:39 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Thank you, Rob and team!

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Pedro Renan  
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From: Pedro Renan <pedrore...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Very good!!!

On 23 June, 02:00, Rob Schley <rob.sch...@joomla.org> wrote:


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Ben Voth  
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From: Ben Voth <benv...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:37:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 9:37 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
very cool. does it require php 5?

On Jun 23, 12:00 am, Rob Schley <rob.sch...@joomla.org> wrote:


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Gergő Erdősi  
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From: Gergő Erdősi <gergo.erd...@joomline.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:45:25 +0200
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 9:45 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Yes, Joomla! 1.6 requires PHP 5.2 (or above) and MySQL 5.0.4 (or above).

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2009/6/23 Ben Voth <benv...@gmail.com>


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Gary Brooks  
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From: Gary Brooks <garyjaybro...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:11:10 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 10:11 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

Great Job Everyone!   We have it installed so it past the first test :-)

Gary Brooks
http://www.cloudaccess.net

2009/6/23 Gergő Erdősi <gergo.erd...@joomline.org>


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Alex Szilagyi  
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From: Alex Szilagyi <alex1...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:46:06 +0300
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 10:46 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

Yep, I've seen that it runs faster :D Nice; I like it.


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Michael Hamanaka  
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From: Michael Hamanaka <haman...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:55:37 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

Excellent work, testing now.

Mike Hamanaka
Website Production
Vertualize.com


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Luis Galárraga  
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From: Luis Galárraga <shamant...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:57:46 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

I will try it.. excellent :D

2009/6/23 Michael Hamanaka <haman...@gmail.com>


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Tonie  
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From: Tonie <anit...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Where do you want problems to be posted. Over here on the list or on
the 1.6 tracker? (in this case selecting another table prefix doesn't
work)

Tonie


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Andrew Eddie  
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From: Andrew Eddie <mambob...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:58:33 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
2009/6/23 da8iwr <virtuemartfrooglef...@gmail.com>:

> This is excellent news, thanks for the heads up.

> Just 2 main questions though

> 1 - Do you know if the existing 1.5.X extensions will work on 1.6.X,
> or will they need modifying the work as they did with the 1.0 - 1.5
> transition?

1.5 extensions that are truly "native" will require the least
conversion.  So developers that have put in the hard yards to rework
their extensions will be in the best position.  Those that still
require legacy mode will not work at all.

> 2 - Will the 1.5 > 1.6 upgrade be seamless or will it need work as it
> does now with 1.0 > 1.5?

We don't know yet.  I'm hoping that the upgrade will be as follows:

1. Take a copy of your 1.5 site and database.
2. Drop 1.6 over the top of this copy.
3. Run an SQL over your database.
4. Login to the admin of the site.
5. Run a cleanup routine.

That would be the ideal but I can't promise anything yet.

Regards,
Andrew Eddie
http://www.theartofjoomla.com - the art of becoming a Joomla developer


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Rob Schley  
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From: Rob Schley <rob.sch...@joomla.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:59:56 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

At this point, just keep them to yourself. The trunk is going to keep
changing rapidly and it makes bug reports extremely difficult and time
consuming to manage. When we feel more confident in the trunk, we will start
looking for bug reports again but, at this point, they won't be very
helpful.
Best,
Rob


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joomlagate.com  
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From: "joomlagate.com" <joomlag...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Excellent! I am going to test it soon.

Thanks to you all!

I would like to remind you to add a new system plugin: built-in
CAPTCHA engine for forms, at least the Contact Us form.

I am using Jooma 1.0.x now and got too many spam emails via the
contact form due to without CAPTCHA protection.

I think this is not too difficult for you. Add a built-in CAPTCHA
engine will save much times for 3rd party developers since they can
just call the core CAPTHCA engine.

Thank you in advance.

joomlagate.com

http://www.joomlagate.com

Chinese Joomla Users' Portal


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G. D. Speer  
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From: "G. D. Speer" <gsp...@cortech.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:45:10 -0600
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 11:45 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Nice idea - a slight preference for recaptcha since it also accomplishes an
altristic mission,
and perhaps a form of Wilco's Moovum could be made core to round out the
hack and
bot-proofing and make Joomla ultra-hack-resistant as it comes of of the box.

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Rob Schley  
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From: Rob Schley <rob.sch...@joomla.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:54:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 23 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

Let's keep this thread on topic please. If you want to talk about CAPTCHA,
start a new thread.
Thanks,
Rob

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El Severo  
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From: El Severo <alex1...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 6:41 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
After playing around a little bit with 1.6 version of Joomla I've
discovered that when I'm trying to insert an image into a article I
can't, the Insert button doesn't work; hope this little bug will be
fixed :D.

I haven't read much things about 1.6 version but does the 1.5 Joomla
native components will work on 1.6 ?

Thanks,
El


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Tony Wild  
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From: Tony Wild <anit...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:58:32 +0200
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 6:58 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

@El Severo

An answer by Andrew:

"1.5 extensions that are truly "native" will require the least conversion.
So developers that have put in the hard yards to rework their extensions
will be in the best position. Those that stillrequire legacy mode will not
work at all."

This means things won't work out of the box, since the ACL has been
completely reformed. The total scope of changes is not known at the moment.


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Alex Szilagyi  
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From: Alex Szilagyi <alex1...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:01:29 +0300
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 7:01 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

OK, Thank you for your answer :D


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Amit Patekar  
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From: Amit Patekar <amitpate...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:44:29 +0530
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 7:14 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

hi,
EI
i dont think there is any change in the components part, that is all the old
components for joomla 1.5 will work in joomla 1.6
major improvement is access level and multi level categories,

About Bugs:
i think there must be some system for raising bugs, but not sure where it
is.
if any body know please post a link here

regards
http://www.webworldguru.com

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:11 PM, El Severo <alex1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After playing around a little bit with 1.6 version of Joomla I've
> discovered that when I'm trying to insert an image into a article I
> can't, the Insert button doesn't work; hope this little bug will be
> fixed :D.

> I haven't read much things about 1.6 version but does the 1.5 Joomla
> native components will work on 1.6 ?

> Thanks,
> El

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Gergő Erdősi  
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From: Gergő Erdősi <gergo.erd...@joomline.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:16:39 +0200
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 7:16 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Actually, ACL is the easier part of the conversion. :) Implementing
the new ACL system is not more than adding a few lines to your
extension.

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2009/6/24 Tony Wild <anit...@gmail.com>


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Gergő Erdősi  
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From: Gergő Erdősi <gergo.erd...@joomline.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:23:59 +0200
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 7:23 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Read Rob's message above:
http://groups.google.com/group/joomla-dev-cms/msg/0d8942618ac3e747?hl...

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2009/6/24 Amit Patekar <amitpate...@gmail.com>


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El Severo  
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From: El Severo <alex1...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:30:51 +0300
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 7:30 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha

Yep, sorry 4 that :|  & Thank you *Gergő*


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Christophe Demko  
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From: Christophe Demko <chde...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 24 2009 11:30 am
Subject: Re: Joomla 1.6 Alpha
Hi to all,

I published an "alpha" version of com_helloworld for joomla_1.6.0-
alpha at http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/helloworld_1_6

Actually it works (except the creation of new categories which seems
to be buggy in Joomla, not in my component I think)...

Ch.D


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